White House petition wants GOP senators charged with TREASON for Iran letter

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    Mar 10, 2015 9:46 PM GMT
    Shameful, but not unexpected icon_rolleyes.gif


    http://national.suntimes.com/national-politics/7/72/769233/petition-charge-iran-letter-senators-treason/

    File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9

    Signatories:
    Richard Shelby (Ala.)
    Jeff Sessions (Ala.)
    Dan Sullivan (Alaska)
    John McCain (Ariz.)
    John Boozman (Ark.)
    Tom Cotton (Ark.)
    Cory Gardner (Colo.)
    Marco Rubio (Fla.)
    Johnny Isakson (Ga.)
    David Perdue (Ga.)
    Mike Crapo (Idaho)
    Jim Risch (Idaho)
    Mark Kirk (Ill.)
    Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
    Joni Ernst (Iowa)
    Pat Roberts (Kansas)
    Jerry Moran (Kansas)
    Mitch McConnell (Ky.)
    Rand Paul (Ky.)
    David Vitter (La.)
    Bill Cassidy (La.)
    Roger Wicker (Miss.)
    Roy Blunt (Mo.)
    Steve Daines (Mont.)
    Deb Fischer (Neb.)
    Ben Sasse (Neb.)
    Dean Heller (Nev.)
    Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
    Richard Burr (N.C.)
    Thom Tillis (N.C.)
    John Hoeven (N.D.)
    Rob Portman (Ohio)
    Jim Inhofe (Okla.)
    James Lankford (Okla.)
    Pat Toomey (Pa.)
    Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
    Tim Scott (S.C.)
    John Thune (S.D.)
    Mike Rounds (S.D.)
    John Cornyn (Texas)
    Ted Cruz (Texas)
    Orin Hatch (Utah)
    Mike Lee (Utah)
    Shelley Moore Capito (W.V.)
    Ron Johnson (Wis.)
    Mike Enzi (Wyo.)
    John Barrasso (Wyo.)

    Did not sign:
    Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
    Jeff Flake (Ariz.)
    Daniel Coats (Ind.)
    Susan Collins (Maine)
    Thad Cochran (Miss.)
    Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
    Bob Corker (Tenn.)

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    Mar 10, 2015 9:50 PM GMT
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    Mar 10, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    I was about to post that Daily News headline pic here, glad you did.
  • Destinharbor

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    Mar 10, 2015 10:57 PM GMT
    And for those who don't know, the Daily News is very right of center and doesn't like Obama, and doesn't favor a treaty with Iran.
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    Mar 10, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidAnd for those who don't know, the Daily News is very right of center and doesn't like Obama, and doesn't favor a treaty with Iran.

    Thanks! I don't live in the NYC area anymore, don't know the current political leanings of the Daily News.
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:24 AM GMT
    Then Jimmy Carter ought to be sitting his butt in prison shouldn't he?

    http://origin.tampabays10.com/news/article/146840/0/Jimmy-Carter-My-presidency-was-a-success

    But that's just the start.

    1983 Ted Kennedy proposed a secret alliance with the Soviet Union to defeat President Ronald Reagan.

    1984, 10 Democratic lawmakers — including the then majority leader and House Intelligence Committee chairman – sent a letter to Nicaraguan Communist leader Daniel Ortega known as the “Dear Comandante” letter. In it, the lawmakers criticized Reagan’s policy toward Nicaragua and whitewashed the record of violence by the Sandinista communists.

    2007 Nancy Pelosi visited Syrian dictator Bashar Assad

    2002 Democrats visited Iraq to trash Bush’s policy


    http://americanlibertypac.com/2015/03/here-are-5-times-democrats-undermined-republican-presidents-with-foreign-governments/



  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:28 AM GMT
    "The word is about, there's something evolving. whatever may come, the world keeps revolving. They say the next big thing is here, that the revolution's near, but to me it seems quite clear that it's all just a little bit of history repeating."




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    Mar 11, 2015 1:58 AM GMT
    Motive? Careful planning from the beginning, I say convict them all icon_twisted.gif








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    Mar 11, 2015 2:07 AM GMT
    ^^^^^^Hmmmmm, lets see, given the known facts above, my guess the letter was to be harmful to the commander in chief icon_evil.gif


    Hillary Clinton Points Out The Real Scandal: GOP Letter To Iran
    http://crooksandliars.com/2015/03/hillary-clinton-republicans-discredited

    "There appear to be two logical answers. Either these senators were trying to be helpful to the Iranians or harmful to the commander-in-chief in the midst of high-stakes international diplomacy. Either answer does discredit to the letter's signatories".


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    Mar 11, 2015 2:28 AM GMT
    ^^^^In related, the same republicans accused of treason and undermining the president, about this letter to Iran...icon_twisted.gif
    (Christian sabotage, of course, the letter is about Israel)


    Nearly Half of Voters Disapprove of GOP’s Netanyahu Invite
    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/01/nearly-half-of-voters-disapprove-of-gops-netanyahu-invite/

    Nearly half of American voters think that Republican lawmakers should not have invited Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to speak to a joint session of Congress without first notifying President Barack Obama, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey finds.

    Some 48% of registered voters said they disapproved of inviting another leader to speak without first checking with the president, while 30% said congressional Republicans should have done so. Just over a fifth said they didn’t know enough to say

    The recent tensions are rooted in Mr. Netanyahu’s attempt to scuttle the deal that Mr. Obama is negotiating with Iran to rein in its nuclear program. Many Israelis say Iran is the biggest national security threat to Israel and that the only acceptable deal would strip Iran of any nuclear program.


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    Mar 11, 2015 6:33 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    ELNathB saidShameful


    Yes, Obama's trashing of the Constitution (declaring the Senate in recess so he could appoint political hacks to the NLRB later ruled as unconstitutional, using the IRS to suppress opposition in elections, issuing edicts that would grant social security numbers and work permits to illegal aliens, etc)... all quite shameful.




    This issue is not about Obama per se, its about how much YOUR party people hate him soooooo much, you will stoop to such low ball, now obvious, tactics to make him, the educated, civil rights black man, look incompetent. Your backwards, TX yahoo, GW Bush, clan, religious bozos and other uneducated misfits, didn't need any help from democrats looking, acting, saying or doing other stupid things, it just comes naturally to your party people, the party of fear based control (freaks) icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif

  • tj85016

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    Mar 11, 2015 6:49 AM GMT
    realistically, 1/2 the US Senate is not going to put themselves on the hook for treason

    it's funny how our staunch "allies" China, India, Japan, South Korea, and Turkey still find a way to buy a ton of Iranian oil

    The NY Daily News and the Post always have sensational headlines
  • Svnw688

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    Mar 11, 2015 7:24 AM GMT
    ELNathB said
    southbeach1500 said
    ELNathB saidShameful


    Yes, Obama's trashing of the Constitution (declaring the Senate in recess so he could appoint political hacks to the NLRB later ruled as unconstitutional, using the IRS to suppress opposition in elections, issuing edicts that would grant social security numbers and work permits to illegal aliens, etc)... all quite shameful.




    This issue is not about Obama per se, its about how much YOUR party people hate him soooooo much, you will stoop to such low ball, now obvious, tactics to make him, the educated, civil rights black man, look incompetent. Your backwards, TX yahoo, GW Bush, clan, religious bozos and other uneducated misfits, didn't need any help from democrats looking, acting, saying or doing other stupid things, it just comes naturally to your party people, the party of fear based control (freaks) icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif



    But the GOP/right would rather bathe in faux-scandals while they plot how to systematically disenfranchise black voters in red/purple states and to further isolate minorities. They just got the conserva-posse on the Supreme Court to destroy Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act (really allowing them to block black and poor voters). Don't take their faux-scandals away, they're just now having fun.

    Seriously though, the sheer irony is that Republicans claim to be the party of integrity and limited government. I, personally, can't wait until the next evangelical governor gets outed smoking meth with a gay escort in a shady motel room. It's not a question of if, but when. icon_cool.gif
  • tj85016

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    Mar 11, 2015 7:53 AM GMT
    ^^

    yeah I know all the shills here need to jump on and defend every thread regarding their beloved party affiliations (whatever they may be)

    I just point out the fallacy on both sides
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    Mar 11, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
    Emperor Obama is once again attempting to bypass the Constitution by negotiating an "agreement" which is clearly a treaty.

    Treaties require Senate ratification.

    As Obama is an admitted drug addict in one of his books, perhaps Barry was high during his Constitutional law classes.
  • Svnw688

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    Mar 11, 2015 8:31 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidEmperor Obama is once again attempting to bypass the Constitution by negotiating an "agreement" which is clearly a treaty.

    Treaties require Senate ratification.

    As Obama is an admitted drug addict in one of his books, perhaps Barry was high during his Constitutional law classes.


    Classes? He was a constitutional law PROFESSOR.
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    Mar 11, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    mx5guynj saidEmperor Obama is once again attempting to bypass the Constitution by negotiating an "agreement" which is clearly a treaty.

    Treaties require Senate ratification.

    As Obama is an admitted drug addict in one of his books, perhaps Barry was high during his Constitutional law classes.


    Classes? He was a constitutional law PROFESSOR.



    Now, now, Svn; you know better: he was an adjunct lecturer, NOT a professor of any degree. But, his transcripts sure would shed some light on how he performed in Con Law as a student if he ever chose to release them.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 11, 2015 10:30 PM GMT
    Trashing of the constitution
    Hacks
    Shills
    Beloved party associations
    Emperor Obama
    Drug addict


    When opposition has to resort to simplistic invective and ad hominum attacks it is a sure sign of lack of content and of losing the argument. If conservatives could convince by the power of clear argument and some sort of vision of a better future for us all, they might win the point. As it is, this is little better than shrieking- you might as well go back to painting Hitler mustaches on pictures of the President.
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    Mar 11, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
    Petition to charge Sen. Tom Cotton with treason gets fewer signatures than "Deport Justin Bieber" icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    http://spectator.org/blog/62024/petition-charge-sen-tom-cotton-treason-gets-fewer-signatures-deport-justin-bieber
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    Mar 11, 2015 11:32 PM GMT
    tazzari saidTrashing of the constitution
    Hacks
    Shills
    Beloved party associations
    Emperor Obama
    Drug addict


    When opposition has to resort to simplistic invective and ad hominum attacks it is a sure sign of lack of content and of losing the argument. If conservatives could convince by the power of clear argument and some sort of vision of a better future for us all, they might win the point. As it is, this is little better than shrieking-you might as well go back to painting Hitler mustaches on pictures of the President.

    +1

    And we see that mirrored daily here with the RJ conservaposse. Disagree with them or disprove them with valid evidence and you get hit with all manner of shrieking personal attacks & slanders.
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    Mar 11, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    ELNathB said
    southbeach1500 said
    ELNathB saidShameful


    Yes, Obama's trashing of the Constitution (declaring the Senate in recess so he could appoint political hacks to the NLRB later ruled as unconstitutional, using the IRS to suppress opposition in elections, issuing edicts that would grant social security numbers and work permits to illegal aliens, etc)... all quite shameful.




    This issue is not about Obama per se, its about how much YOUR party people hate him soooooo much, you will stoop to such low ball, now obvious, tactics to make him, the educated, civil rights black man, look incompetent. Your backwards, TX yahoo, GW Bush, clan, religious bozos and other uneducated misfits, didn't need any help from democrats looking, acting, saying or doing other stupid things, it just comes naturally to your party people, the party of fear based control (freaks) icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif



    But the GOP/right would rather bathe in faux-scandals while they plot how to systematically disenfranchise black voters in red/purple states and to further isolate minorities. They just got the conserva-posse on the Supreme Court to destroy Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act (really allowing them to block black and poor voters). Don't take their faux-scandals away, they're just now having fun.

    Seriously though, the sheer irony is that Republicans claim to be the party of integrity and limited government. I, personally, can't wait until the next evangelical governor gets outed smoking meth with a gay escort in a shady motel room. It's not a question of if, but when. icon_cool.gif


    Are you volunteering? Closet cases are usually a good lay. They don't get it often and the little bit of fear of getting caught makes them energetic. The meth will be he'll on your teeth but hey, we all must make sacrifices! icon_razz.gif
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 12, 2015 12:03 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    tazzari saidTrashing of the constitution
    Hacks
    Shills
    Beloved party associations
    Emperor Obama
    Drug addict


    When opposition has to resort to simplistic invective and ad hominum attacks it is a sure sign of lack of content and of losing the argument. If conservatives could convince by the power of clear argument and some sort of vision of a better future for us all, they might win the point. As it is, this is little better than shrieking-you might as well go back to painting Hitler mustaches on pictures of the President.

    +1

    And we see that mirrored daily here with the RJ conservaposse. Disagree with them or disprove them with valid evidence and you get hit with all manner of shrieking personal attacks & slanders.



    ^^WTF?????
    How many pious high horses have had their backs broken by the tonnage of your pretentious hypocritical ass in the saddle trying to do a Joanne of Arc line like that line? We can go through RJ with a scorecard and count "all manner of shrieking personal attacks & slanders" done by everyone and The fat old tacky queen from South Florida will get the crown every time.
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    Mar 12, 2015 12:21 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    Svnw688 said
    Classes? He was a constitutional law PROFESSOR.


    Now, now, Svn; you know better: he was an adjunct lecturer, NOT a professor of any degree...


    That clarification would have been fine hadn't you gone over the opposite edge of also wrong. You lawyers are annoying as fuck.

    Calling him professor might not be in line with the spirit of the term but to say not a professor of any degree might not be in line with the technicality of the term.

    Someone in education correct me if I've got it wrong but my understanding from my university days is that pretty much anyone teaching a university class is considered and properly addressed though to my taste somewhat overly formal as professor, maybe not a tenured professor, maybe not an associate professor but probably an assistant professor, even without a PhD, a professor nonetheless.
  • Svnw688

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    Mar 12, 2015 12:33 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    Svnw688 said
    mx5guynj saidEmperor Obama is once again attempting to bypass the Constitution by negotiating an "agreement" which is clearly a treaty.

    Treaties require Senate ratification.

    As Obama is an admitted drug addict in one of his books, perhaps Barry was high during his Constitutional law classes.


    Classes? He was a constitutional law PROFESSOR.



    Now, now, Svn; you know better: he was an adjunct lecturer, NOT a professor of any degree. But, his transcripts sure would shed some light on how he performed in Con Law as a student if he ever chose to release them.


    I didn't call him a tenured professor. I stand by "professor," which is what I--and most importantly EVERYONE ELSE--called all of the instructors at Duke law, regardless of technical and formal classification.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 12, 2015 1:16 AM GMT

    ^^WTF?????
    How many pious high horses have had their backs broken by the tonnage of your pretentious hypocritical ass in the saddle trying to do a Joanne of Arc line like that line? We can go through RJ with a scorecard and count "all manner of shrieking personal attacks & slanders" done by everyone and The fat old tacky queen from South Florida will get the crown every time. [/quote]


    This might be taken as fairly vituperative, even bordering on the ad hominum.

    Art speaks from his own valid conviction and experience, and is surely as legitimate a voice as yours or mine; and he posts often, but I seem to remember your doing the same. How I wish any discussion on this board would not so quickly degenerate into name-calling. It is as unprofitable as it is uninformative - and generally falls short of convincing anyone of the other person's view, which is surely why we have discussions?