What are your thoughts on capital punishment/death penalty

  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:16 AM GMT
    I was just reading about this guy who was sentenced to death in utah for killing and raping an 11 yo girl.
    This was many years ago though...1996.
    Isn't sentencing one to death murder as well??
    This seems to be the honest answer for me..
    Aren't we committing the same crime when sentencing one to death????
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
    venue35 saidI was just reading about this guy who was sentenced to death in utah for killing and raping an 11 yo girl.
    This was many years ago though...1996.
    Isn't sentencing one to death murder as well??
    This seems to be the honest answer for me..
    Aren't we committing the same crime when sentencing one to death????


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  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
    You may be right but who are we to make that decision??
    WHEN Ted Bundy was executed people had all these banners saying TIME FOR A TED BUNDY BBQ!!!!
    I'm sure the victims families felt justified but in my heart it's wrong!!!icon_cry.gif
    Who knows how I'd feel if one of the victims was a family member howevericon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:24 AM GMT
    venue35 saidYou may be right but who are we to make that decision??
    WHEN Ted Bundy was executed people had all these banners saying TIME FOR A TED BUNDY BBQ!!!!
    I'm sure the victims families felt justified but in my heart it's wrong!!!icon_cry.gif
    Who knows what I'd say if one of the victims was a family member howevericon_twisted.gif


    It's usually made by a jury. They represent the best interest of the community and make an informed decision based on the facts of the trial. This isn't medieval times were people are marched to the stake to burn.

    I believe in sacrifice for the greater good. And if it so happens that murders have to go to save the innocent, then so be it....icon_neutral.gif
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
    venue35 saidI was just reading about this guy who was sentenced to death in utah for killing and raping an 11 yo girl.
    This was many years ago though...1996.
    Isn't sentencing one to death murder as well??
    This seems to be the honest answer for me..
    Aren't we committing the same crime when sentencing one to death????

    Hell no! Some people simply do not deserve to live. The state is not committing a crime in punishing criminals, as long as the accused had a fair trial and actually committed the crime. Lynchings cannot be condoned, but killers should be killed. It is too bad that the American justice system takes so many years to get around to the execution.

    In your example, that 11 year old girl is still raped and dead. Why should her killer be alive?

    You don't think killers should be killed. So we give a free pass to the butchers who sawed the heads off ISIS kidnap victims? To the Boston bombers? All the war criminals that were hung after World War II, should be in comfy prison cells, writing and distributing their memoirs?

    In my opinion, the death penalty as now imposed (putting people to sleep, like a sick dog) is way too merciful. There ought to be a much more terrifying means of execution. AND executions ought to be public (or at least televised).
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:28 AM GMT
    Well rotting away in jail isn't much of a life!icon_neutral.gif
    I don't know what goes on in jail though it can't be fun
    WE ARENT GOD TO MAKE THAT DECISION!!!!
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:31 AM GMT
    An eye opening movie:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096257/

    And if you've ever been on jury duty you'll see how it's not just the jury that's deciding. Being on a jury can be very discouraging. And I once witnessed a crime and reported it; what a cock up that trial was.
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:31 AM GMT
    venue35 saidWell rotting away in jail isn't much of a life!icon_neutral.gif
    I don't know what goes on in jail though it can't be fun
    WE ARENT GOD TO MAKE THAT DECISION!!!!



    Settle down now. Why are you so upset?

    Did you kill someone??!?!??!?!icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:31 AM GMT
    venue35 saidWell rotting away in jail isn't much of a life!icon_neutral.gif
    I don't know what goes on in jail though it can't be fun
    WE ARENT GOD TO MAKE THAT DECISION!!!!


    Well,if you belong to one of the major religions in the western world, the "god" supports capital punishment - even commands it.
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:38 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 said
    venue35 saidWell rotting away in jail isn't much of a life!icon_neutral.gif
    I don't know what goes on in jail though it can't be fun
    WE ARENT GOD TO MAKE THAT DECISION!!!!



    Settle down now. Why are you so upset?

    Did you kill someone??!?!??!?!icon_eek.gif

    No I didn't kill anybody silly!!icon_biggrin.gif
    Im just surprised that the justice system has that much power..over someone's life.
    I do see your point on the subject though...
    No use in keeping rotten apples that fall from a treeicon_cool.gif
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:42 AM GMT
    At least the US has a justice system. There are no formal executions in Russia. They just have you shot or poisoned without any trial - without even an arrest - if you have offended those in power.
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:46 AM GMT
    Puppenjunge saidAt least the US has a justice system. There are no formal executions in Russia. They just have you shot or poisoned without any trial - without even an arrest - if you have offended those in power.
    Well there have been murderers in the US that have served only 6 years and were then set free so yes there is a justice system but it doesn't always work
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:47 AM GMT
    Lynching are murder by vigilantes and shouldn't even be injected into this discussion.

    Other than that I agree with all the comments above except that I'd consider capital punishment for other things like

    Ponzi scammers and financial criminals, stock market manipulators who steal from hundreds or thousands of people and or screw wuth the economy to make a profit.

    All politicians, influence peddlers or campaign financiers convicted of corruption or any crimes related to the conduct of elections and government.

    News executives who knowingly report slanted news.

    Religious leaders twisting scriptures to justify any form of hate towards others by means of patently false information disguised as "belief."
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:49 AM GMT
    As for Russia I'll have to look into it.
    Sounds kind of farfetched imo but you never know.
    Maybe it was like that in the past but Putin is a savage so could be true.
    What kind of poison Do they use??
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    Mar 11, 2015 12:51 AM GMT
    venue35 saidAs for Russia I'll have to look into it.
    Sounds kind of farfetched imo but you never know.
    Maybe it was like that in the past but Putin is a savage so could be true.
    What kind of poison Do they use??

    Polonium (recently).

    There is no execution today for murderers in Russia - they kill political enemies.
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:56 AM GMT
    Puppenjunge said
    venue35 saidI was just reading about this guy who was sentenced to death in utah for killing and raping an 11 yo girl.
    This was many years ago though...1996.
    Isn't sentencing one to death murder as well??
    This seems to be the honest answer for me..
    Aren't we committing the same crime when sentencing one to death????

    Hell no! Some people simply do not deserve to live. The state is not committing a crime in punishing criminals, as long as the accused had a fair trial and actually committed the crime. Lynchings cannot be condoned, but killers should be killed. It is too bad that the American justice system takes so many years to get around to the execution.

    In your example, that 11 year old girl is still raped and dead. Why should her killer be alive?

    You don't think killers should be killed. So we give a free pass to the butchers who sawed the heads off ISIS kidnap victims? To the Boston bombers? All the war criminals that were hung after World War II, should be in comfy prison cells, writing and distributing their memoirs?

    In my opinion, the death penalty as now imposed (putting people to sleep, like a sick dog) is way too merciful. There ought to be a much more terrifying means of execution. AND executions ought to be public (or at least televised).
    wow I just read this now !!!
    I agree with you on war criminals from the holocaust, but I was talking more about sexual deviants and low life criminals in the US. BUT I get what you are saying.
    If you make the choice to take ones life
    get ready for your life to be taken too..
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 12:58 AM GMT
    When you say more terrifying means of execution should be implemented where does your mind wander to????
    SHOOT...
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 1:11 AM GMT
    ACTUALLY John Taylor maintained he was innocent till the very end even though his finger prints were found on the girls phone in her bedroomicon_neutral.gif
    His last meal was pizza with everything
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    Mar 11, 2015 1:15 AM GMT
    For some folks who have endured the brutal loss of a child, parent or spouse.. the death penalty provides closure.

    If you came and took boo from me, I might have to take you out myself.

    just sayin'
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 1:15 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidAn eye opening movie:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096257/

    And if you've ever been on jury duty you'll see how it's not just the jury that's deciding. Being on a jury can be very discouraging. And I once witnessed a crime and reported it; what a cock up that trial was.
    Thanks for the link lumpyicon_biggrin.gif
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 1:16 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidFor some folks who have endured the brutal loss of a child, parent or spouse.. the death penalty provides closure.

    If you came and took boo from me, I might have to take you out myself.

    just sayin'

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    Mar 11, 2015 1:20 AM GMT
    venue35 saidWhat are your thoughts on capital punishment/death penalty
    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/gay-youth-stoned-death-jamaica090315
  • venue35

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    Mar 11, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    venue35 saidWhat are your thoughts on capital punishment/death penalty
    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/gay-youth-stoned-death-jamaica090315

    I'm talking about the US not Jamaica!!!!!
    That place is a Hellhole!!!
    Keep it local people!!!!
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    Mar 11, 2015 1:44 AM GMT
    venue35 said
    TheGuyNextDoor saidFor some folks who have endured the brutal loss of a child, parent or spouse.. the death penalty provides closure.

    If you came and took boo from me, I might have to take you out myself.

    just sayin'

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    If I promise to put my spurs, 9 shooter and holster away, can I comment then, please?
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    Mar 11, 2015 3:28 AM GMT
    venue35 said
    paulflexes said
    venue35 saidWhat are your thoughts on capital punishment/death penalty
    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/gay-youth-stoned-death-jamaica090315

    I'm talking about the US not Jamaica!!!!!
    That place is a Hellhole!!!
    Keep it local people!!!!
    I don't believe anything happens after death. The death penalty is the easy way out. Let the fuckers rot in prison till they die slowly, painfully, and naturally.