Anti-Gay Oklahoma State Rep. Todd Russ' Bill, HB 1125, Eliminating Marriage Licenses Passes House

  • metta

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    Mar 11, 2015 3:26 PM GMT
    Anti-Gay Lawmaker's Bill Eliminating Marriage Licenses Passes House



    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/_takes_them_out_of_the_trap_anti_gay_lawmaker_s_bill_eliminating_marriage_licenses_passes_house


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    Mar 11, 2015 5:11 PM GMT
    It's a non-starter. It explicitly transfers government powers to churches. Establishment of religion 101.
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    Mar 11, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
    Has there ever been a public remark by people of this ilk in which the metaphor "stuck it down our throats" was not used?
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    Mar 11, 2015 6:17 PM GMT
    you would have to file joint for the federal tax return, separate for the OK state taxes.
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    Mar 11, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
    It doesn't eliminate marriage. It gives preachers (not county clerks) the exclusive right to establish marriage. The preachers then report the marriages to the state to be filed.
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    Mar 11, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
    article:
    "If the Senate passes the bill, only 'an ordained or authorized preacher or minister of the Gospel, priest or other ecclesiastical dignitary of any denomination' would be allowed to issue 'certificates of marriage' after presiding over a ceremony," Raw Story


    This not a bona fide legislator advocating for constituents but the shenanigan of a propagandist promoting bigotry at the level of the state.

    Had he wanted merely to show his concern for even homophobic county clerks and scummy judges, then he'd not have so narrowly defined who might be authorized to perform marriage. He'd simply have taken it out of their hands.

    But by leaving out even atheists on purpose, as Mindgarden notes he establishes religion as a power of government, which they have to know will be struck down so that's what they want. Why? Because in their eyes and how they hope will be projected, that can make us look like the bad guys. It won't be the Supremes striking down legislation which made the church the only official of marriage, but gay people, which is the propaganda those douchebags want, all disguised as supporting religion and as protecting county employees from "acting against their faith".

    Also in the bill, county employees will no longer be allowed to wear cotton blends.
  • Svnw688

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    Mar 11, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
    It was almost a party-line vote, save for 6 or so Republicans who voted 'nay' and two Democrats who turned-coat and voted 'yea'.

    Typical GOP politics, attempting--with animus--to deny LGBTs a constitutionally protected right (per the 10th Circuit).
  • FRE0

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    Mar 11, 2015 7:49 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidIt's a non-starter. It explicitly transfers government powers to churches. Establishment of religion 101.


    Is he actually establishing religion? Does the bill state that only religious organizations can perform marriages? If a non-religious organization can also perform marriages, there shouldn't be a problem. I don't think that from the article it is completely clear.