'Propagation Of Our Species': SC GOP Senators Move To Ban Gay Marriage In US Constitution

  • metta

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    Mar 11, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
    'Propagation Of Our Species': SC GOP Senators Move To Ban Gay Marriage In US Constitution


    "The resolution, S 0031, charges that "opponents of the traditional, sacred definition of marriage as union of a man and woman have gone to court to force their contrary view upon the majority of Americans." It posits that "marriage has long been defined by relationships between men and women. The tradition is measured in millennia, not centuries or decades," and "marriage being defined as a union between a man and a woman has, until recently, been adopted by all governments and every major religion in the world."

    It could also effectively nullify current same-sex marriages if licensed by states that choose to later ban them.

    South Carolina Republican State Senators Larry Grooms (image) and Danny Verdin are the sponsors of S 0031."

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/south_carolina_republicans_ban_same_sex_marriage_in_us_constitution
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    Mar 11, 2015 8:23 PM GMT

    AL republican attorney general is blocking cause for class action suit, naturally. Their Sanctity of Marriage Amendment has been ruled unconstitutional. At this point, it would appear "the fight" for marriage equality is coming down to state vs federal jurisdiction, madness icon_rolleyes.gif



    NCLR Seeks Class-Action Status In AL Marriage Equality Case To Cover All Same-Sex Couples In AL
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/06/1369083/-NCLR-Seeks-Class-Action-Status-In-AL-Marriage-Equality-Case-To-Cover-All-Same-Sex-Couples-In-AL#

    The National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR) has filed an amended complaint in the Strawser case, seeking to turn the challenge into a class-action lawsuit. The new pleading asks Judge Granade, who’s been overseeing all the federal litigation in the Southern District of Alabama, to certify a plaintiff class with all same-sex couples in the state who want to marry, and a defendant class of all county probate judges.
    The NCLR legal team is joined by the ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), And Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

    Specifically, the filing says: “The Plaintiff Class is defined as: “All persons in Alabama who wish to obtain a marriage license in order to marry a person of the same sex and to have that marriage recognized under Alabama law, and who are unable to do so because of the enforcement of Alabama’s laws prohibiting the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples and barring recognition of their marriages.” The Defendant Class is defined as: “All Alabama county probate judges who are enforcing or in the future may enforce Alabama’s laws barring the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples and refusing to recognize their marriages.”

    The case could potentially result in a formal federal decision requiring marriage licenses to be issued to same-sex couples throughout Alabama.

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    Mar 11, 2015 8:57 PM GMT
    Hmmm, now there's a genetic rationale for homosexuality I hadn't considered: Nature's defense against rampant humanity taking over the planet, or the universe, for that matter. Let's see how far either this theory or this legislation gets. Not very far, for those who don't see the sarcasm.
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    Mar 11, 2015 10:07 PM GMT
    Yet there are so many gay men who support republicans.
  • jeepguySD

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    Mar 11, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
    I'm sure it wouldn't help to point this out, but the "tradition" is not measured in millennia as the bill claims. In a way I sort of envy people like the those who authored the bill -- it must be very liberating to be unencumbered by facts.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 11, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
    I see this state is as crazy as it was when it declared itself separate and apart from the United States and the Civil War was on. I wouldn't expect anything... different with this legislation.

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    Mar 11, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    canadian_stud saidYet there are so many gay men who support republicans.


    I have no idea why. The only reason would be self-loathing.
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    Mar 11, 2015 11:43 PM GMT
    jeepguySD saidI'm sure it wouldn't help to point this out, but the "tradition" is not measured in millennia as the bill claims. In a way I sort of envy people like the those who authored the bill -- it must be very liberating to be unencumbered by facts.


    What are you talking about? Of course, breeder love unions and breeder marriage has been going on for millennia.
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    Mar 11, 2015 11:46 PM GMT
    “It is what is in the best interest of our species. Now we’re told through a federal judge that now we have to change that. It throws out of kilter all of our laws that have been based on the foundation of a man and a woman (being married).”
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    Mar 11, 2015 11:47 PM GMT
    GOP State Sen. Lee Bright reportedly stated that federal judges who have made same-sex marriage legal should be impeached.
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    Mar 11, 2015 11:48 PM GMT
    “Marriage is one man and one woman, and I believe that’s the way it’s been in the history of mankind up until the last 15 years,” he said.

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    Mar 12, 2015 12:25 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan said: I see this state is as crazy as it was when it declared itself separate and apart from the United States and the Civil War was on....

    Having lived there for while as a kid, I can tell you AL has seceded not only from the US but from planet Earth. Happened a looong time ago...
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    Mar 12, 2015 1:52 AM GMT
    waccamatt said
    canadian_stud saidYet there are so many gay men who support republicans.


    I have no idea why. The only reason would be self-loathing.


    Or recognition that there are more important issues than who sleeps w/ or marries whom.

    And your degree/certification in clinical psychology is from where? Cut the subscription to "Psychology Today."
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    Mar 12, 2015 1:57 AM GMT
    More Than 300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage Nationally:

    http://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/
  • tj85016

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    Mar 12, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
    propagation of our species? at 7.3 billion, I don't see any shortage of humans - I see too many of them
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    Mar 12, 2015 2:39 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidMore Than 300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage Nationally:

    http://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/

    WOW, sounds impressive! Until you read:

    Among the signatories are 23 current and former Republicans members of the House of Representatives and Senate and seven current and former Governors.

    ONLY 23? Including some former members of Congress? When the combined number of Republicans in the current House and Senate is 300? Turns out only a handful of Republican incumbents in Congress actually signed this.

    Most of the 300 you tout are former Party advisors who never held office, and others not in office currently, when around the country there are tens of thousands of Republicans with equal rank & credentials. Not a very impressive showing by Republicans on this issue after all.
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    Mar 12, 2015 3:07 AM GMT
    Meh.
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    Mar 12, 2015 7:00 AM GMT
    sun rises from east and roses are red
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    Mar 12, 2015 7:54 AM GMT
    MGINSD saidHmmm, now there's a genetic rationale for homosexuality I hadn't considered: Nature's defense against rampant humanity taking over the planet, or the universe, for that matter. Let's see how far either this theory or this legislation gets. Not very far, for those who don't see the sarcasm.


    ^^^ I'm sitting here laughing my ass off about it.

    The idiocy of this idea should be embarrassing to the people who voted for the jerks who wrote this bill.

    It only shows how desperate and totally irrational evangelicals and fundamentalists really are.

    I looked them up.
    Larry Grooms is a Southern Baptist and owns a chain of convenience stores.. and has a degree from Clemson.

    Danny Verdin is a member of the "Faith Free Presbyterian Church" in Greenville who recieved a BA in history for Bob Jones University and he has served as South Carolina Division Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, 1998–2000.

    If you don't know about Bob Jones "University", it is a fundamentalist brainwashing camp that has been hit with sex scandals that are nearly unbelievable. They are so far out on the fringe they have criticized Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and others for being too liberal. Students are subject to extremes in censorship and are monitored and reported on by the campus' famous Morality Squad which seems to modeled on the morality police of Saudi Arabia.
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    Mar 12, 2015 9:46 AM GMT
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    mx5guynj saidMore Than 300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage Nationally:

    http://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/

    WOW, sounds impressive! Until you read:

    Among the signatories are 23 current and former Republicans members of the House of Representatives and Senate and seven current and former Governors.

    ONLY 23? Including some former members of Congress? When the combined number of Republicans in the current House and Senate is 300? Turns out only a handful of Republican incumbents in Congress actually signed this.

    Most of the 300 you tout are former Party advisors who never held office, and others not in office currently, when around the country there are tens of thousands of Republicans with equal rank & credentials. Not a very impressive showing by Republicans on this issue after all.


    I'll keep this in my back pocket for the next time southbeach or some other gay Republican wingnut starts telling us about how we have it all wrong when it comes to GOP and gay rights. Gay Republicans need to wake up. The GOP will never accept LGBT Americans as minorities deserving equal protection under the law. Shoot, they've been legally permitted to chop away at the Voting Rights Act and corral minorities under the guise of redistricting. The last thing these "law makers" want is to give gays any path to true citizenship. As far as they're concerned, we should shut up, pay our taxes, and feel lucky to live in the U.S.
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    Mar 12, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidpropagation of our species? at 7.3 billion, I don't see any shortage of humans - I see too many of them


    "Propagation of the species" is NOT the problem. CHILD POLLUTION planet-wide IS.
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    Mar 12, 2015 7:37 PM GMT
    With over 7 billion people on this planet and not enough resources to feed them all, this "propagation of our species" has already went too far.

    We need more gays!
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    Mar 13, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
    i'm going to have one hell of a chat with my law professor over this rubbish. We're gonna have to get drunk, haha
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    Mar 13, 2015 5:44 AM GMT
    credo said
    Art_Deco said
    mx5guynj saidMore Than 300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage Nationally:

    http://time.com/3734626/gay-marriage-supreme-court-republicans/

    WOW, sounds impressive! Until you read:

    Among the signatories are 23 current and former Republicans members of the House of Representatives and Senate and seven current and former Governors.

    ONLY 23? Including some former members of Congress? When the combined number of Republicans in the current House and Senate is 300? Turns out only a handful of Republican incumbents in Congress actually signed this.

    Most of the 300 you tout are former Party advisors who never held office, and others not in office currently, when around the country there are tens of thousands of Republicans with equal rank & credentials. Not a very impressive showing by Republicans on this issue after all.


    I'll keep this in my back pocket for the next time southbeach or some other gay Republican wingnut starts telling us about how we have it all wrong when it comes to GOP and gay rights. Gay Republicans need to wake up. The GOP will never accept LGBT Americans as minorities deserving equal protection under the law. Shoot, they've been legally permitted to chop away at the Voting Rights Act and corral minorities under the guise of redistricting. The last thing these "law makers" want is to give gays any path to true citizenship. As far as they're concerned, we should shut up, pay our taxes, and feel lucky to live in the U.S.


    How do you liberals explain why Obama finances the execution and imprisonment of gays in foreign countries like Brunei, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Kenya and so many others?

    Why was anti gay, racist Al Sharpton marching next to Obama last Saturday in Selma?
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    Mar 13, 2015 5:57 AM GMT
    Life2Short saidi'm going to have one hell of a chat with my law professor over this rubbish. We're gonna have to get drunk, haha

    Oh, you better delete that joking post! southbeach1500 will archive it, and haunt you with it in the future. As he does with my own comical comments about drinking.

    He will hammer you with it again and again and again. As he has with me.

    You need to be very cautious on this site about what you say about yourself, or the conservaposse will use it to persecute & slander you all your days here. That's why they're here, and that's what they do.