Hands Up, Don't Shoot: Never have so many been so wrong and won't admit it.

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    Mar 14, 2015 1:58 AM GMT
    The DOJ clears the police officer, "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" was a lie:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lynette-mae/hands-up-but-dont-lie_b_6827144.html

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  • Kollektiv

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    Mar 14, 2015 2:25 AM GMT
    I guess you're the sort of person that points to the Rolling Stone rape article to prove that rape isn't a problem on college campuses.
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    Mar 14, 2015 4:33 AM GMT
    You just proved that you base your opinions without any consideration to facts and only on your ideology which in case is as a Ferguson Truther. I'll say a prayer for you to become less narrow minded and more inclusive of others.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 14, 2015 1:55 PM GMT
    That police officer in Ferguson was just defending himself from that vicious criminal thug, Michael Brown. This miserable punk got exactly what he deserved for fighting that cop and trying to steal his gun.
  • peterstrong

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    Mar 14, 2015 2:55 PM GMT
    Am surprised huff post finally came around to reporting the truth in this article - mob hysteria based on lies about the event that clears officer Wilson. Same thing the DOJ reported.

    it was incomprehensible to me why people refused to believe the 8 or so black eye witnesses who testified to the grand jury backing up what the officer said happened - the latest DOJ report about systematic racism is a sad truth that i am sure is not the only police department nationwide doing that - the whole drug war and who gets incarcerated is nothing but a race war. Kentucky Senator Rand Paul confesses the same fact.




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    Mar 14, 2015 3:26 PM GMT
    Why did we never hear from the Asian shop keeper that Brown roughed up and robbed.,not a word? Why didn't the media cover the half dozen or so black on black gang murders in Oakland around the same time.

    Truth does not sell . It all just Politics and media manipulation
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    Mar 14, 2015 3:54 PM GMT
    Most of those being shot have a criminal past .
    Does it allow them to be shot , not it doesn't , but if you are guilty of any criminal mischief , be smart , put your hands up and let yourself be arrested .

    It always bring a smile to my face , when i hear the mothers of those shot saying " my child was the best " , i so want to tell them , " Madame , you failed as a parent " !!

    Be smart , don't resist arrest , if you have done nothing wrong , it can just be a misunderstanding that will be cleared later on .
    Life is important , don't mess with your own life !!

  • Mar 14, 2015 4:09 PM GMT
    Dorothy Roberts ‏@DorothyERoberts · 7m7 minutes ago
    MT @getgln @tdejarnett: You will never be done proving your humanity to a racist - they will always need more proof. pic.twitter.com/1nTlpTBXoj

  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 14, 2015 5:04 PM GMT
    Kollektiv saidI guess you're the sort of person that points to the Rolling Stone rape article to prove that rape isn't a problem on college campuses.


    To Kollektiv^
    LOL !!! Demographically speaking you just proved you're the type of idiot who automatically believed the Rolling Stone article and that Michael Brown was some sweet innocent boy who never hurt anyone or ever stole a thing.

    The point is that all the arson, vandalism, theft, protests, jivey acts of solidarity, ranting speeches by the #1 profiteer of racial division in the US - were all justified with a sack full of bullshit lies according the DOJ report.

    Just playing around I caught one statistical misrepresentation in the DOJ report that others have noted since. In news reports back several months up to and including the DOJ report idiots have cite stats that "sound" like racism is rampant in Ferguson traffic stops. When you look at it in relationship to other cities FERGUSON HAS A VERY LOW RATE for being stopped by police for "driving while black."

    News media reports

    67% black population with 87% black traffic stops = RACISM

    Bullshit.

    Here's the true analysis.

    Ferguson:
    Blacks = 67% of pop and have 87% of traffic stops (+18% above pop %)

    New York City
    Blacks = 22% of pop and have 56% of traffic stops (+24% above pop %)

    Urbana Ill
    Blacks = 17% of pop and have 44% of traffic stops (+27% above pop %)

    Milwaukee
    Blacks = 40% of pop and have 69% of traffic stops (29% above pop %)

    And the liberal idea that a higher arrest rate for blacks is a sure sign of racism is bullshit. As it is now blacks comprise 13% of the US population and are responsible for 56% of all murders in the USA. There goes that theory that higher rates of arrest are always signs of racism.

    Did you that when looked at in consideration with other cities in the US, Ferguson's arrest rate for blacks is AVERAGE???? Cities with the highest disparities in arrest rates for blacks are actually the ones know for being LIBERAL... Berkley California, -- Madison Wisconsin - Minneapolis - Atlanta - Oakland California.......
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    Mar 14, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
    JockPunkBohemian saidDorothy Roberts ‏@DorothyERoberts · 7m7 minutes ago
    MT @getgln @tdejarnett: You will never be done proving your humanity to a racist - they will always need more proof. pic.twitter.com/1nTlpTBXo

    One advantage to threads like this is that they identify the anti-Black racists on RJ. We've got 3, maybe 4 in this thread alone.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 14, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]mx5guynj said[/cite]The DOJ clears the police officer, "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" was a lie:


    So it's okay to shoot?

    What a nit-picking, idiotic, proves-nothing, simplistic post!
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    Mar 14, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    JockPunkBohemian saidDorothy Roberts ‏@DorothyERoberts · 7m7 minutes ago
    MT @getgln @tdejarnett: You will never be done proving your humanity to a racist - they will always need more proof. pic.twitter.com/1nTlpTBXo

    One advantage to threads like this is that they identify the anti-Black racists on RJ. We've got 3, maybe 4 in this thread alone.


    Whereas your posts identify you as ridiculous wherever they - or your photos - appear.
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 14, 2015 7:54 PM GMT
    Hey Pazzy read over what I wrote and tell us all exactly what's racist about it. Get Alt Diva to help you if you need it.

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    Mar 14, 2015 7:58 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat police officer in Ferguson was just defending himself from that vicious criminal thug, Michael Brown. This miserable punk got exactly what he deserved for fighting that cop and trying to steal his gun.


    We just recently had a shooting in Madison of a black guy by a cop and it's Ferguson all over again in Madison. Hopefully, the thugs don't destroy this city and this cop like they did in Ferguson. Madison is a friendly biking city and has a naked bike ride every year.
  • FRE0

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    Mar 14, 2015 7:59 PM GMT
    Kollektiv saidI guess you're the sort of person that points to the Rolling Stone rape article to prove that rape isn't a problem on college campuses.


    Your jumping to conclusions based on insufficient evidence call into question your ability to think logically and clearly.
  • FRE0

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    Mar 14, 2015 8:00 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat police officer in Ferguson was just defending himself from that vicious criminal thug, Michael Brown. This miserable punk got exactly what he deserved for fighting that cop and trying to steal his gun.


    It may well be that the police officer acted entirely properly, but your statement about the malefactor is unwarranted.
  • FRE0

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    Mar 14, 2015 8:03 PM GMT
    peterstrong saidAm surprised huff post finally came around to reporting the truth in this article - mob hysteria based on lies about the event that clears officer Wilson. Same thing the DOJ reported.

    it was incomprehensible to me why people refused to believe the 8 or so black eye witnesses who testified to the grand jury backing up what the officer said happened - the latest DOJ report about systematic racism is a sad truth that i am sure is not the only police department nationwide doing that - the whole drug war and who gets incarcerated is nothing but a race war. Kentucky Senator Rand Paul confesses the same fact.






    Part of the problem is over-generalization. We know for a fact that many police misbehave and many have a very negative attitude towards blacks, a situation which should be corrected. Of course that does not prove that every time a policeman shoots a black person he is acting inappropriately. Incidents should be investigated individually rather than basing conclusions on generalizations.
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    Mar 14, 2015 8:06 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    roadbikeRob saidThat police officer in Ferguson was just defending himself from that vicious criminal thug, Michael Brown. This miserable punk got exactly what he deserved for fighting that cop and trying to steal his gun.


    It may well be that the police officer acted entirely properly, but your statement about the malefactor is unwarranted.



    He was a robber and not someone you want to mess with. Whenever you break the law like this, you are playing russsian roulette with your life. I don't feel sorry one bit when criminals get killed while in the act of a crime. It serves them right and teaches others to be more respectful of other people's property.
  • Svnw688

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    Mar 14, 2015 8:23 PM GMT
    How reductive, OP.

    So 1 incident was mischaracterized and that means all racism and excessive force claims are debunked? You're an idiot.

    And don't mind that part of the DOJ report that PROVES there is institutional and systematic racism in ticketing, which tends to parlay into corroborating claims of excessive force and other racism. You can't use citizens are a revenue stream--tickets can't be ad hoc taxes--and that's all the more the case when you do it along racial lines.

    Your white privilege is showing.
  • FRE0

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    Mar 14, 2015 8:29 PM GMT
    michael61 said
    FRE0 said
    roadbikeRob saidThat police officer in Ferguson was just defending himself from that vicious criminal thug, Michael Brown. This miserable punk got exactly what he deserved for fighting that cop and trying to steal his gun.


    It may well be that the police officer acted entirely properly, but your statement about the malefactor is unwarranted.



    He was a robber and not someone you want to mess with. Whenever you break the law like this, you are playing russsian roulette with your life. I don't feel sorry one bit when criminals get killed while in the act of a crime. It serves them right and teaches others to be more respectful of other people's property.


    I don't feel sorry for him either. However, it is for the legal system to determine what is an appropriate sentence. In the case at hand, it looks as though the policeman who shot the malefactor may have had little choice which was unfortunate since there was no opportunity for a trial.
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    Mar 14, 2015 8:37 PM GMT
    I think:
    1. Michael Brown was doing the wrong thing and he contributed to his own death.
    2. That enough people in Ferguson were likely targeted to the extent that the community felt harrassed.
    3. That police need our support to protect our community.
    4. That our community needs the support of the police, too.
  • FRE0

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    Mar 14, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
    woodfordr saidI think:
    1. Michael Brown was doing the wrong thing and he contributed to his own death.
    2. That enough people in Ferguson were likely targeted to the extent that the community felt harrassed.
    3. That police need our support to protect our community.
    4. That our community needs the support of the police, too.


    I don't disagree. However, in addition, I think that the police department requires a complete overhaul based on the results of an investigation.
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    Mar 14, 2015 9:19 PM GMT
    Svnw688 saidHow reductive, OP.

    So 1 incident was mischaracterized and that means all racism and excessive force claims are debunked? You're an idiot.

    And don't mind that part of the DOJ report that PROVES there is institutional and systematic racism in ticketing, which tends to parlay into corroborating claims of excessive force and other racism. You can't use citizens as a revenue stream--tickets can't be ad hoc taxes--and that's all the more the case when you do it along racial lines.

    Your white privilege is showing.

    +1
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    Mar 14, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
    In 2013, only 7% of Ferguson African Americans bothered to vote. African Americans make up 67% of Ferguson's population.

    If the majority of Ferguson wants to change their community, they should do it through the ballot box instead of looting, burning their own community and shooting cops.

    Why haven't Ferguson African Americans initiated recall elections for the town council and mayor?

    Why aren't prominent African Americans like Al Sharpton calling for new elections?

    Why isn't Obama calling for new elections?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 14, 2015 11:34 PM GMT
    woodfordr saidI think:
    1. Michael Brown was doing the wrong thing and he contributed to his own death.
    2. That enough people in Ferguson were likely targeted to the extent that the community felt harrassed.
    3. That police need our support to protect our community.
    4. That our community needs the support of the police, too.
    Thank you. +200,000.