WOW! 1927 movie "Wings" with male love and kiss

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    Mar 15, 2015 3:09 AM GMT
    Check it out on Netflix. I had started watching it the other night--both of the leading men are quite handsome--and just discovered this clip from the movie where the men embrace and kiss. This is a spoiler, but I would love to see the movie now to see how they bonded.

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    Mar 15, 2015 3:23 AM GMT
    I've seen the entire movie. Yes, they do kiss, as the one guy is dying.

    I don't think it's a gay thing, nor was it viewed as such by audiences at the time. It was a human thing. I read nothing gay into it.
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    Mar 15, 2015 3:34 AM GMT
    Of course. Just trying to get guys to want to view it. icon_wink.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Mar 15, 2015 4:15 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI've seen the entire movie. Yes, they do kiss, as the one guy is dying.

    I don't think it's a gay thing, nor was it viewed as such by audiences at the time. It was a human thing. I read nothing gay into it.


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  • bro4bro

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    Mar 15, 2015 4:48 AM GMT
    Wings won the very first Oscar for Best Picture.

    The loving relationship portrayed between the two pilots was fairly typical for the era, when war was still being romanticized. And silent movies had to rely much more on body language to convey emotion, so that part was always overdone.
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    Mar 15, 2015 5:18 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    Art_Deco saidI've seen the entire movie. Yes, they do kiss, as the one guy is dying.

    I don't think it's a gay thing, nor was it viewed as such by audiences at the time. It was a human thing. I read nothing gay into it.

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    Yes, but not necessarily gay love in that movie scene. I wouldn't read too much into it.

    Having someone die right in front of you brings very strong emotions, as I've had to experience more times than I'd like to remember, including in military uniform. Until you've been there I don't think anyone can fully comprehend, which is the power of that movie scene.

    It has nothing to do with gay. It has everything do with humanity. Is that so difficult to understand?
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    Mar 15, 2015 3:51 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    AMoonHawk said
    Art_Deco saidI've seen the entire movie. Yes, they do kiss, as the one guy is dying.

    I don't think it's a gay thing, nor was it viewed as such by audiences at the time. It was a human thing. I read nothing gay into it.

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    Yes, but not necessarily gay love in that movie scene. I wouldn't read too much into it.

    Having someone die right in front of you brings very strong emotions, as I've had to experience more times than I'd like to remember, including in military uniform. Until you've been there I don't think anyone can fully comprehend, which is the power of that movie scene.

    It has nothing to do with gay. It has everything do with humanity. Is that so difficult to understand?


    I concur with Art. Those were very different times and open affection between men was fairly common and not sexual at all. Part of what bothered my Dad's generation was that affection between them could be misconstrued as homosexual, so I think it a good idea to respect platonic love and not read more into it than there is.

    ...and as well, in a silent film the acting was often over the top to make up for lack of hearing dialogue.
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    Mar 15, 2015 4:14 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    So which war was it Kolonel Deco, WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Gulf War 1?



    I believe it was the Civil War icon_wink.gif Just kidding, Art haha
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    Mar 15, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
    This was shot way before homophobia existed, so apparently it was not uncommon for straight men to kiss and embrace. Not to mention it wasn't even a lip to lip kiss. He kissed him on the cheek.
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    Mar 15, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    Radd saidThis was shot way before homophobia existed, so apparently it was not uncommon for straight men to kiss and embrace. Not to mention it wasn't even a lip to lip kiss. He kissed him on the cheek.


    "Homophobia," as it's called, has always been around; it's current misnomer only stems from the late '70s or so in the US. I've always felt "homodium" would be a better term, since people who display it aren't afraid of gays as much as they simply hate them.

    That said, for me the sweetest scene in "Wings" comes right after the two protagonists box each other and become fast friends. The smiles they exchange are touching.
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    Mar 15, 2015 11:04 PM GMT
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    Radd saidThis was shot way before homophobia existed, so apparently it was not uncommon for straight men to kiss and embrace. Not to mention it wasn't even a lip to lip kiss. He kissed him on the cheek.


    ok. Where did you pluck that from? Just because the term wasn't used to describe prejudice against gay people doesn't mean that it didn't exist. dunno about guys doing things that might have got them perceived as homosexuals especially in some cases, folks were witchhunting for gay men. just because two guys kissed each other on a movie back then doesn't mean anything.


    I didn't mean that being gay was accepted (obviously.) I meant men didn't abstain from showing affection due to being perceived as gay.
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    Mar 15, 2015 11:43 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    Having someone die right in front of you brings very strong emotions, as I've had to experience more times than I'd like to remember, including in military uniform. Until you've been there I don't think anyone can fully comprehend, which is the power of that movie scene.

    In military uniform? This statement seems to be constructed in a way to lead the reader to believe that Kolonel Deco has seen many a comrade die next to him on the battlefield.

    So which war was it Kolonel Deco, WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, Gulf War 1?

    The first time was at Fort Knox, Kentucky, 1970. Saw a soldier ground-guiding an M60 main battle tank (approx. 55 tons) run over by it right in front of my eyes. Not pretty. And the other times I think I'll keep to myself.
  • monet

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    Mar 18, 2015 12:51 AM GMT
    There are two characters in the classic 1915 film Birth of A Nation who I thought may have been gay when I first viewed the film. They very nearly share a kiss when they die in each other's arms.



    See the following two clips:

    5:45 - 7:15: The younger brothers of the two main characters meet for the first time. This scene occurs before the start of the Civil War so the two men, one from the North and one from the South, are happy to meet each other and are not yet fighting for opposite sides during the war.

    I seem to remember from my viewing of the film that there was a lot more interaction between these two characters but I could not find video of it.

    18:35 - 19:20: The men, now each fighting for opposing sides in the war, meet for the second time when they are both shot in battle, fall to the ground next to each other and recognize each other moments before they both die.
  • hebrewman

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    Mar 18, 2015 9:13 AM GMT
    wow. just............wow