Madonna: Rebel Heart

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 15, 2015 3:37 PM GMT
    Sorry if I missed it, but I haven't found any threads discussing the new Madonna CD release this week, "REBEL HEART". Was curious what the responses are.

    Being a Madonna fan from the days of "Burning Up" and "Borderline", I really wanted to like this new release. Upon first listen, I was hugely disappointed. It sounded like she was trying too hard to be relevant, and I found most of it an utter mess with only a few potential diamonds among the rough -- "Ghost Town", "Joan of Arc", and "Inside Out". But as I listen to it more I am really warming up to it. Other tracks like "Holy Water", "Wash All Over Me" and "Iconic" have hooks that are now stuck in my head. I definitely think this is a Madonna release that needs multiple listens to hone in on some of the gems among the 19 tracks. I'm still not warming up to some of the overwrought tracks, like "Illuminati" and "Bitch I'm Madonna", but it does get better with each listen. I don't, however, think there is a "VOGUE" or "FROZEN" among any of these tracks that will likely get embraced by pop radio.
  • venue35

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    Mar 15, 2015 6:00 PM GMT
    I will be buying the album tomorrow.
    So far I love Ghost town.
  • Eli_jah

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    Mar 15, 2015 6:20 PM GMT
    I think it's her best album since American Life. Probably her most intimate, personal, and mature album, it already feels classic after just a week's listen.

    Successfully blots out of the memory of MDNA or Hard Candy, too.
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    Mar 15, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSorry if I missed it, but I haven't found any threads discussing the new Madonna CD release this week, "REBEL HEART". Was curious what the responses are.

    Being a Madonna fan from the days of "Burning Up" and "Borderline", I really wanted to like this new release. Upon first listen, I was hugely disappointed. It sounded like she was trying too hard to be relevant, and I found most of it an utter mess with only a few potential diamonds among the rough -- "Ghost Town", "Joan of Arc", and "Inside Out". But as I listen to it more I am really warming up to it. Other tracks like "Holy Water", "Wash All Over Me" and "Iconic" have hooks that are now stuck in my head. I definitely think this is a Madonna release that needs multiple listens to hone in on some of the gems among the 19 tracks. I'm still not warming up to some of the overwrought tracks, like "Illuminati" and "Bitch I'm Madonna", but it does get better with each listen. I don't, however, think there is a "VOGUE" or "FROZEN" among any of these tracks that will likely get embraced by pop radio.


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  • Breeman

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    Mar 17, 2015 12:15 AM GMT
    I've always enjoy her music. I liked her whole persona but I was disappointed one time when she was a guest on the David Letterman show. David was asking her questions and she was getting defensive anticipating what he might ask. She just toyed with him. She ended up staying too long. David couldn't get rid of her. I think they ended up having to cancel the next guest. I didn't care for her much after that.
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    Mar 17, 2015 3:19 AM GMT
    I go way back as a Madonna fan too.

    For me the album (not the song) Like a Prayer was the one that connected most to me. I actually like this album more than the last few. I've gone through a few fav songs on this album- currently I'm listening to Messiah. I also like Unapologetic Bitch, Devil Pray, Illuminati, and Iconic.
  • RSnSD

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    Mar 17, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidSorry if I missed it, but I haven't found any threads discussing the new Madonna CD release this week, "REBEL HEART". Was curious what the responses are.

    Being a Madonna fan from the days of "Burning Up" and "Borderline", I really wanted to like this new release. Upon first listen, I was hugely disappointed. It sounded like she was trying too hard to be relevant, and I found most of it an utter mess with only a few potential diamonds among the rough -- "Ghost Town", "Joan of Arc", and "Inside Out". But as I listen to it more I am really warming up to it. Other tracks like "Holy Water", "Wash All Over Me" and "Iconic" have hooks that are now stuck in my head. I definitely think this is a Madonna release that needs multiple listens to hone in on some of the gems among the 19 tracks. I'm still not warming up to some of the overwrought tracks, like "Illuminati" and "Bitch I'm Madonna", but it does get better with each listen. I don't, however, think there is a "VOGUE" or "FROZEN" among any of these tracks that will likely get embraced by pop radio.


    +1

    The sequencing of the album is very disjointed and does not have the sonic fluidity like Ray of Light or COTDF. Also, she really needs to steer away from these collaborations and focus on her own voice which she did on gems like Ghosttown and Joan of Arc. With so many tracks to choose from, one can easily edit out the filler tracks and create their own custom double album as I have done. One contains the all the fast tempo, harder "Rebel" tracks (including unreleased demos like Two Steps Behind Me, original version of Illuminati, etc.) and a "Heart" album with all the slower, more melodic tracks like Ghosttown, Joan of Arc, and demos like Nothing Lasts Forever. Perhaps this was her original intent to release the album in a similar format, but with the rush release caused by the hacking scandal it didn't quite end up this way.

    I will say though, she's playing it smart this time with full promotion of the album which she didn't do for MDNA (immediately began tour prep instead) and being mindful of single selection. Ghosttown is officially the next single and has good potential to be a pop hit.
  • Svnw688

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    Mar 17, 2015 8:40 PM GMT
    I pretty much agree with everything, everyone on this thread had said. Seriously.

    A solid album, in my opinion.
  • RSnSD

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    Mar 17, 2015 8:56 PM GMT
    These are the two tracks I really wish she had kept in the final mix, but to each his own...




  • Svnw688

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    Mar 17, 2015 9:11 PM GMT
    Hmm, "Two Steps Behind Me' is subtitled/described as "Dedication to Lady Gaga."

    I don't think it's that flattering to Gaga, which is why it was likely pulled. It'd flame the war between the Little Monsters and Madonna fanatics. You only have "rap wars" and schizms when sales are down. When everybody's eating, you keep on trucking and don't fan the flames.

    The song and video make a very valid point, I believe, but it's a bit cocky. I'd have voted to pull it too.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 17, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
    RSnSD said
    Perhaps this was her original intent to release the album in a similar format, but with the rush release caused by the hacking scandal it didn't quite end up this way.

    I will say though, she's playing it smart this time with full promotion of the album which she didn't do for MDNA (immediately began tour prep instead) and being mindful of single selection. Ghosttown is officially the next single and has good potential to be a pop hit.


    I saw an interview she did a few days ago and that is what she originally wanted to do -- a Double-sided CD with the more "Rebel" songs on one side, and the ballads on the other. However, once things got leaked everything got scrapped to rush it out.

    I agree with you that "Ghosttown" could be a pop hit, though the more I listen to the CD I think "Inside Out" also has solid single potential. I really hope these tracks will be given a chance with radio airplay but, sadly, I think there is a lot of resistance at pop radio to Madonna.