Congress Exempts Themselves from E-mail Requirements

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    Mar 20, 2015 3:34 AM GMT
    NYT: Members of Congress who accuse Hillary Clinton of failing to properly preserve her government emails are largely free themselves from any requirement to keep their own emails and records open for posterity and official inquiry.

    Emails and other records are treated as the private property of legislators. Lawmakers remain free to keep emails and other records hidden for decades or more.

    “It’s a little different kettle of fish,” said Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona as fellow Republicans revved up a round of investigations of Mrs. Clinton’s “homebrew” email trail.

    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/19/in-congress-a-double-standard-for-email/?_r=0
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 20, 2015 3:40 AM GMT
    Well ain't that grand:icon_mad.gif
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 20, 2015 4:07 AM GMT
    "Members of Congress who accuse Hillary".....

    Does anyone see what's wrong with that line??????

    Why didn't they just say "REPUBLICANS in Congress who accuse Hillary"...?

    I read a total of six various articles about this all containing the same basic information and all lacking the same basic information. However the further from center the news site was from AP the harder they tried to infer that all of this was a conservative plot. If they had one half inch of fabric to blame conservatives for this they would have reupholstered an entire formal ball room with it

    The only reason they would have possibly gone so soft about making accusations against conservatives is they knew they'd backfire as soon as anyone did some deeper research behind the story.

    Why didn't they give dates these rules were made for Congress?

    Why didn't they name the Congressmen who pushed these rules?

    If they'd found conservatives could be blamed for this, that would have been in the article headlines.

    That doesn't leave but one other option does it? The conservatives weren't the ones who pushed those rules for Congress.
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    Mar 20, 2015 5:48 AM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    Why didn't they just say "REPUBLICANS in Congress who accuse Hillary"...?

    Sorta like: why didn't YOU say you simply hate Hillary Clinton? I think that would clear up your post's meaning considerably.
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    Mar 20, 2015 5:55 AM GMT
    Actually, Congress is exempt from pretty much any regulation. E.g. contractors working on the capitol are exempt from OSHA regulations.

    Pretty much an outright admission that these regulations are just scams to raise money and power for bureaucrats.
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 20, 2015 12:59 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    bobbobbob said
    Why didn't they just say "REPUBLICANS in Congress who accuse Hillary"...?

    Sorta like: why didn't YOU say you simply hate Hillary Clinton? I think that would clear up your post's meaning considerably.


    Your lame ass attacks never change do they? Okay fat ass,,,

    You just love making accusations you can't prove. Is that another part of the psychosis of bitter pisselegant queens who have to use mirrors to get peeks at their own peckers?

  • Hypertrophile

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    Mar 20, 2015 1:54 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    Yet another topic from the Woodsmen which is simply a copy and paste of an article from.... The New York Times (again!).


    I would seriously consider supporting an RJ policy of allowing only the posting of NYT articles if it stops you from posting all of the click-bait you paper this forum with. You're like RJ's own conservative George Takei. How much do you get per click-through anyway?

    That said, do you have anything to address the issue or are you going to stick to your ad hominem?
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    Mar 22, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
    Let's look at history as to who has been exempting Federal Employees:

    Democrats originally exempted Federal Employees from Social Security which Republican Ronald Reagan had changed in 1986.

    Democrats exempted Federal Employees from Medicare.

    Democrats exempted Federal Employees from Obamacare.

    Democrats exempted Federal Employees from paying fees at National Parks.
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 22, 2015 9:59 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidLet's look at history as to who has been exempting Federal Employees:

    Democrats originally exempted Federal Employees from Social Security which Republican Ronald Reagan had changed in 1986.

    Democrats exempted Federal Employees from Medicare.

    Democrats exempted Federal Employees from Obamacare.

    Democrats exempted Federal Employees from paying fees at National Parks.


    I've searched to see if anyone has updated their articles on this to give names of congressmen who pushed these exemptions. Has anyone updated? Hell no! All they were interested in doing was giving their loyal believers something to jack off to while reading.

    It does appear you're right about who was behind this exemption.
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    Mar 22, 2015 11:15 PM GMT
    The Republicans in 1994 promised in their "Contract with America" to require all laws that apply to the rest of the country apply to Congress. When they took control of Congress for the first time since 1954, they removed open records requirements in passage of the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995.

    Recently, when Rep. Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, who is heading the hunt for Clinton's emails, was asked and the answer was no interest in changing the rules on lawmakers' emails including his own.
  • tazzari

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    Mar 23, 2015 12:14 AM GMT
    We should de-privatise and regulate Congress. Make it a public service, encourage well-qualified applicants, set performance and accountability standards...

    Excuse me while I take another puff...
  • bobbobbob

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    Mar 24, 2015 2:06 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidThe Republicans in 1994 promised in their "Contract with America" to require all laws that apply to the rest of the country apply to Congress. When they took control of Congress for the first time since 1954, they removed open records requirements in passage of the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995.

    Recently, when Rep. Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, who is heading the hunt for Clinton's emails, was asked and the answer was no interest in changing the rules on lawmakers' emails including his own.


    ........ the reason they did not extend the rules on emails to cover themselves is pretty straightforward. Anywhere between 50% and 75% of congressional email correspondence is with constituents who, as private citizens, do have a right to expect privacy in their correspondences with their representatives. Correspondences between congressmen and other government offices ARE automatically preserved.

    Unlike with Hillary, any email correspondence between any congressman and the state department (or any other dept of the federal govt) would have automatically been saved.. unless the state department chose to lose it.