Cities With the Largest, and Smallest, Gay Populations

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    Mar 21, 2015 3:10 AM GMT
    NYT: These cities with the highest rates of L.G.B.T. residents:

    San Francisco 6.2%
    Portland, Ore. 5.4%
    Austin, Tex. 5.3%
    New Orleans 5.1%
    Boston 4.8%
    Seattle 4.8%
    Salt Lake City 4.7%
    Denver 4.6%
    Hartford 4.6%
    Los Angeles 4.6%
    Louisville, Ky. 4.5%
    Providence, R.I. 4.4%
    Virginia Beach 4.4%
    Columbus, Ohio 4.3%
    Jacksonville 4.3%

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/upshot/the-metro-areas-with-the-largest-and-smallest-gay-population.html?rref=upshot&abt=0002&abg=0
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 21, 2015 12:59 PM GMT
    Where is New York City, Philadelphia, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Chicago, and Minneapolisicon_question.gif The NY Times is not the US Census Bureau so I would be skeptical of this article. No way does rinky dink, overrated Austin, Texas have a higher percentage of gays and lesbians than either New Orleans or Los Angeles. Both Houston and San Diego are missing from this list. Now it is obvious that the NY Times is full of shit.
  • LJay

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    Mar 21, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
    Thank you for sharing, Bob.
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    Mar 21, 2015 2:56 PM GMT
    Something seems very off about these numbers. Houston, Dallas, NYC all have much higher numbers of gay people than Austin or VA Beach.
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    Mar 21, 2015 3:41 PM GMT
    Here is a portion of the article to explain the numbers: The Census Bureau asks Americans about subjects as varied as race, age, annual income and even their source of home heating. But there is one glaring demographic omission: The census does not ask people about their sexual orientation. As a result, there has long been a shroud of uncertainty around the geography of gay and lesbian Americans.

    A new analysis of Gallup survey data offers the most detailed estimates yet about where people who identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender live.

    The Gallup analysis finds the largest concentrations in the West — and not just in the expected places like San Francisco and Portland, Ore. Among the nation’s 50 largest metropolitan areas, Denver and Salt Lake City are also in the top 10. How could Salt Lake be there, given its well-known social conservatism? It seems to be a kind of regional capital of gay life, attracting people from other parts of Utah and the Mormon West.
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    Mar 21, 2015 3:43 PM GMT
    Here is additional information about how Gallup got its information.

    NYT: Gallup’s numbers are based on surveys of 374,325 adults across the 50 largest metropolitan areas, conducted between June 2012 and December 2014. The margin of sampling error for each of the metropolitan areas is no more than plus or minus 1 percentage point. The margin of error is one reason we’ve focused here on the areas at the top and bottom of the list. You shouldn’t make much of tiny differences between areas. (The estimates for all 50 areas appear below.)

    Before this Gallup analysis, the most detailed portrait of gay demography was the Census Bureau estimates of same-sex couples, including an analysis by the Williams Institute at U.C.L.A. Those estimates and Gallup’s new data show broadly similar patterns: Salt Lake City ranks high on both, and San Jose ranks low, for instance. But couples are clearly an imperfect proxy for a total population, which makes these Gallup numbers the most detailed yet to be released.

    Gallup previously released estimates for the country as a whole and for each state. The estimates are based on the survey question, “Do you, personally, identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender?”
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    Mar 21, 2015 3:45 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhere is New York City, Philadelphia, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Chicago, and Minneapolisicon_question.gif The NY Times is not the US Census Bureau so I would be skeptical of this article. No way does rinky dink, overrated Austin, Texas have a higher percentage of gays and lesbians than either New Orleans or Los Angeles. Both Houston and San Diego are missing from this list. Now it is obvious that the NY Times is full of shit.


    Bob, If you read the article, it explains that the US Census Bureau in fact does not ask whether people are gay in the past probably because of Republicans that want to hide that data.


    NYT: On the other hand, some of the East Coast places with famous gay neighborhoods, including in New York, Miami and Washington, have a smaller percentage of their population who identify as gay — roughly average for a big metropolitan area. The least gay urban areas are in the Midwest and South.
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    Mar 21, 2015 3:56 PM GMT
    Yet another reason why I choose to remain a resident of New Orleans, LA, USA.


    Many years ago, I asked my sublime, regal Godmother, a lifelong uptown resident of New Orleans, a lady of family weath, taste and style, why she did not travel more often. At the time, she had the health, financial means and mental sharpness to do so.

    Shooting me a withering look over the rim of her china tea cup, she exclaimed: "MAHH CHILLDDDD, WHAAYYYYY should I travel to a foreign city and be forced to endure bland food, weak coffee and be told when to leave a bar?

    LOOK AROUND, boy, WE ARE AL-READY HEEAHHHH! People come to Nuu Awwlinzzzz, we do NOT go to them!"


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  • Svnw688

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    Mar 21, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
    @rnch, your grandmother sounds awesome!

    These numbers are surprising. I know it's proportion, not sheer number, but I still would have thought that the gay pull at NYC, SF and Miami would have been higher.

    All I can say is that walking around Chelsea, the West Village and Hell's Kitchen, you can barely swing your arm without hitting a gay-ling.

    I bet if you did the numbers with Manhattan's population (excluding Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and the Bronx) then Manhattan would come in at 10 or 15%, no exaggeration. Manhattan is knee-deep in us gay-lings.
  • waccamatt

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    Mar 21, 2015 8:35 PM GMT
    At least half the LGBT population is in the closet, so a poll could never tell our real numbers.
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    Mar 21, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhere is New York City, Philadelphia, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Chicago, and Minneapolisicon_question.gif The NY Times is not the US Census Bureau so I would be skeptical of this article. No way does rinky dink, overrated Austin, Texas have a higher percentage of gays and lesbians than either New Orleans or Los Angeles. Both Houston and San Diego are missing from this list. Now it is obvious that the NY Times is full of shit.


    The numbers appear deceptive because of the geographic boundaries of the cities named. Austin for example is rather small in area compared to Los Angeles. Columbus, Ohio is even smaller, with the traditional gayborhood within the city.
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    Mar 21, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said@rnch, your grandmother sounds awesome!

    These numbers are surprising. I know it's proportion, not sheer number, but I still would have thought that the gay pull at NYC, SF and Miami would have been higher.

    All I can say is that walking around Chelsea, the West Village and Hell's Kitchen, you can barely swing your arm without hitting a gay-ling.

    I bet if you did the numbers with Manhattan's population (excluding Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island and the Bronx) then Manhattan would come in at 10 or 15%, no exaggeration. Manhattan is knee-deep in us gay-lings.


    New York City has 18 millions people so when you walk through Chelsea it may seem crowded with gays but it is a small droplet in the vastness of the city. So New York City has one of the least gay percentage of the population.
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    Mar 22, 2015 12:05 AM GMT
    Metropolitan areas with the lowest rates of L.G.B.T. residents
    Birmingham, Ala. 2.6%
    Pittsburgh 3.0%
    Memphis 3.1%
    Raleigh, N.C. 3.2%
    Cincinnati 3.2%
    San Jose, Calif. 3.2%
    Houston 3.3%
    Richmond, Va. 3.5%
    Nashville 3.5%
    Oklahoma City 3.5%
    Milwaukee 3.5%
    Kansas City 3.6%
    St. Louis 3.6%
    Minneapolis-St. Paul 3.6%
    Cleveland 3.7%
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    Mar 22, 2015 12:14 AM GMT
    http://www.city-data.com/top2/c11.html

    Palm Springs is in the top 3. But 4.1%?
    It's a lot Gayer than that!
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    Mar 22, 2015 12:46 AM GMT
    What about Canadian cities? Montreal is PACKED with gays. Though it could be they're just more visible because no one gives a shit. PDA on the subway and no one bats an eye...
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    Mar 22, 2015 2:28 AM GMT
    Columbus I could believe. But not Louisville. Give me a break.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 22, 2015 2:40 AM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidWhat about Canadian cities? Montreal is PACKED with gays. Though it could be they're just more visible because no one gives a shit. PDA on the subway and no one bats an eye...
    This is just for US cities only. The study does not include any foreign cities like Montreal, Mexico City, etc.
  • GingerOH

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    Mar 22, 2015 3:57 AM GMT
    Not at all surprised Columbus Ohio is on the list. Love my city!!! icon_smile.gif
  • jjguy05

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    Mar 22, 2015 3:52 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhere is New York City, Philadelphia, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Chicago, and Minneapolisicon_question.gif



    Somewhere in the middle.

    These are rates...percentage of metro's population that identifies as LGBT. They're not total sizes.

    And these numbers are so small, that the differences between them are insignificant if you ask me.

    The highest 4 for example:

    San Francisco 6.2%
    Portland, Ore. 5.4%
    Austin, Tex. 5.3%
    New Orleans 5.1%

    The lowest 4:

    Birmingham, Ala. 2.6%
    Pittsburgh 3.0%
    Memphis 3.1%
    Cincinnati 3.2%

    Insignificant differences (considering San Francisco and Birmingham as outliers).

    And this is going by MSA, not CSA, which for the San Francisco area means that San Jose and the Silicon Valley are excluded (which would further dilute the LGBT stats, if you ask me).

    If we look at the ten largest metros (MSAs), the spread between them is smaller:

    Boston, 4.8
    Los Angeles, 4.6
    Miami, 4.2
    Atlanta, 4.2
    New York, 4
    Washington, 4
    Philadelphia, 3.9
    Chicago, 3.8
    Dallas, 3.8
    Houston, 3.3
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    Mar 22, 2015 4:05 PM GMT
    ThatSwimmerGuy93 saidMetropolitan areas with the lowest rates of L.G.B.T. residents
    Birmingham, Ala. 2.6%
    Pittsburgh 3.0%
    Memphis 3.1%
    Raleigh, N.C. 3.2%
    Cincinnati 3.2%
    San Jose, Calif. 3.2%
    Houston 3.3%
    Richmond, Va. 3.5%
    Nashville 3.5%
    Oklahoma City 3.5%
    Milwaukee 3.5%
    Kansas City 3.6%
    St. Louis 3.6%
    Minneapolis-St. Paul 3.6%
    Cleveland 3.7%
    where does both Baltimore and Buffalo rankicon_question.gif
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    Mar 22, 2015 9:49 PM GMT
    Well, doesn't really surprised me. SF has always been a gayest city. Lol, the population in SF is about what 800,000 ? people on a tiny city and according to its history, it has many gay retired sailors/military men there. When I was living in SF with my ex, the majority of gays just hang out in the castro and SoMa. I moved since then and knew several other friends who moved too. (Because a 1 bedroom, 1 bath victorian home costs about $850.000) lol....among other reasons.

    I'm in SoCal, now. Hm, I wonder if they count Pasadena, Long Beach, Orange Co, Silverlake ... into Los Angeles? I'm about 35 mins from LA, 85 mins from San Diego and there are several new gay bars just opened in OC. Chelsea/NYC is not on there??? And San Diego Hillcrest too. SD is an awesome pretty city, been there a couple times for gay pride. In term of the general population and gays LGBT people, it should go like this:

    1/ NYC metro
    2/ LA metro
    3/ Chicago Metro
    4/ SF metro
    5/ Seattle metro
    6/ Boston metro
    7/ Houston Dallas metro

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States
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    Mar 23, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
    Memphis: 0.0002%
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    Mar 23, 2015 4:48 AM GMT
    LAXWill10 saidWell, doesn't really surprised me. SF has always been a gayest city. Lol, the population in SF is about what 800,000 ? people on a tiny city and according to its history, it has many gay retired sailors/military men there. When I was living in SF with my ex, the majority of gays just hang out in the castro and SoMa. I moved since then and knew several other friends who moved too. (Because a 1 bedroom, 1 bath victorian home costs about $850.000) lol....among other reasons.

    I'm in SoCal, now. Hm, I wonder if they count Pasadena, Long Beach, Orange Co, Silverlake ... into Los Angeles?


    Yes. Look up the federal government's definitions of a Metropolitan Statistical Area. These are areas that function as a single city (economically, culturally, and developmentally...you can't tell when you've left LA and entered Burbank), even though (politically) the official Los Angeles covers a smaller portion of that.


    The San Francisco MSA also includes Alameda, Marin, Contra Costa, and San Mateo Counties, in addition to San Francisco.

    The Los Angeles MSA is Los Angeles and Orange Counties.

    The federal government also recognizes CSAs: Combined Statistical Areas, which are broader. The Los Angeles CSA would be the Los Angeles MSA plus Riverside, San Bernardino, and Ventura Counties.

    This list here is CSAs:

    LAXWill10 said

    1/ NYC metro
    2/ LA metro
    3/ Chicago Metro
    4/ SF metro
    5/ Seattle metro
    6/ Boston metro
    7/ Houston Dallas metro



    BTW, Houston and Dallas are two completely separate metros, over 200 miles apart.