Republican: Why Jeb Bush Might Lose

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    Mar 22, 2015 3:54 AM GMT
    NYT: Jeb Bush's stances on immigration will hurt him with conservatives, but his biggest problem right now is identification, not ideology. There just aren’t that many Republican voters who want to vote for a dynastic heir in 2016, and it isn’t clear yet if they’ll decide that they ought to vote for Bush in spite of that reluctance.

    Voting for president is a political act, but it’s also a relational one. As the presidency increasingly dominates our politics, people want a nominee who will somehow personally represent all the virtues that they associate with their country, their political coalition and their worldview. They want an archetype, an inspiration, a figure who can somehow personify liberalism, or conservatism, or America itself.

    Among Republican voters, everything that’s appealing about a figure like Ben Carson — or, in a different way, Sarah Palin before him — is explained by this desire.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/ross-douthat-why-jeb-bush-might-lose.html?_r=0
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 22, 2015 1:13 PM GMT
    I love how they are not turned on by another Bush, but troll out this meme on social media:
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    Apparently they don't miss "W" that much if they feel that Jeb Bush is too dynastic.
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  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 22, 2015 1:17 PM GMT
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  • Apparition

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    Mar 22, 2015 2:05 PM GMT
    The next republican candidate will be an actor again.
  • tj85016

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    Mar 22, 2015 2:10 PM GMT
    not a chance the big money and the media let Ben Carson, Huckabee or Rand Paul get the nomination - not a single chance
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 22, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
    If any of these republicans, Rand Paul, John Kasich, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker were to seek the 2016 republican nomination, I could vote for any of these guys for president. If any of the religious right wing lunatics won the nomination than that would chase me away from the GOP. That Ben Carson dude is very scary.
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    Mar 22, 2015 11:54 PM GMT
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    Let's hope that a majority of American voters remember this next November.




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  • tazzari

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    Mar 23, 2015 12:10 AM GMT
    kinda feel the same way about Hillary. With a country this big, we can only elect from one family?

    No Dynasties!
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    Mar 23, 2015 12:30 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIf any of these republicans, Rand Paul, John Kasich, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker were to seek the 2016 republican nomination, I could vote for any of these guys for president. If any of the religious right wing lunatics won the nomination than that would chase me away from the GOP. That Ben Carson dude is very scary.


    As a registered Republican, I will not vote for any dominist, evangelical, or fundamental Christian who puts their personal religious beliefs over the good of the country.

    I'd literally rather see Hillary elected (and I'd vote for her) if it meant keeping a fanatical, apocalyptic Christian away from the red button (and foreign policy).
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 23, 2015 1:51 AM GMT
    tazzari saidkinda feel the same way about Hillary. With a country this big, we can only elect from one family?

    No Dynasties!


    Honestly, I think it's just a media-driven narrative about Clintons and Bushes. No one was talking about dynasties when Hillary was running for the '08 nomination. Now that Jeb Bush is making a strong consideration, that's what it's being called. And for that matter, no one was talking dynasty when W ran in 2000 or 2004 after his father served as Vice President for 8 years and President for 4.
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    Mar 23, 2015 12:55 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    tazzari saidkinda feel the same way about Hillary. With a country this big, we can only elect from one family?

    No Dynasties!


    Honestly, I think it's just a media-driven narrative about Clintons and Bushes. No one was talking about dynasties when Hillary was running for the '08 nomination. Now that Jeb Bush is making a strong consideration, that's what it's being called. And for that matter, no one was talking dynasty when W ran in 2000 or 2004 after his father served as Vice President for 8 years and President for 4.

    According to the media, this is the new Dynasty.
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    Mar 23, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
    DefensiveEnd said
    coolarmydude said
    tazzari saidkinda feel the same way about Hillary. With a country this big, we can only elect from one family?

    No Dynasties!


    Honestly, I think it's just a media-driven narrative about Clintons and Bushes. No one was talking about dynasties when Hillary was running for the '08 nomination. Now that Jeb Bush is making a strong consideration, that's what it's being called. And for that matter, no one was talking dynasty when W ran in 2000 or 2004 after his father served as Vice President for 8 years and President for 4.

    According to the media, this is the new Dynasty.
    empire-cast1.jpg


    I'd vote for Cookie.
  • KissTheSky

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    Mar 24, 2015 2:10 AM GMT
    No one wants to see the country return to the disastrous days of George W.

    Good luck, Jeb, you'll need it.
    (And you can thank your brother for ruining your chances when he ruined our country.)
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    Mar 24, 2015 2:19 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidRepublican: Why Jeb Bush Might Lose
    Because his daddy and his grandaddy fucked up so bad that nobody wants that family to be a part of this country anymore?

    Just a hunch...
  • conservativej...

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    Mar 24, 2015 2:30 AM GMT
    Well, the 'Jebusite' is going nowhere.

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  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 24, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
    1153red said
    roadbikeRob saidIf any of these republicans, Rand Paul, John Kasich, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker were to seek the 2016 republican nomination, I could vote for any of these guys for president. If any of the religious right wing lunatics won the nomination than that would chase me away from the GOP. That Ben Carson dude is very scary.


    As a registered Republican, I will not vote for any dominist, evangelical, or fundamental Christian who puts their personal religious beliefs over the good of the country.

    I'd literally rather see Hillary elected (and I'd vote for her) if it meant keeping a fanatical, apocalyptic Christian away from the red button (and foreign policy).
    Well I agree with you 100% about the fanatical Christians because they are ruining the GOP but at the same token, I am not voting for the hapless Hillary ho because that power hungry, vindictive bitch will be just as dangerous with the red button. That bimbo will put her own self aggrandizement ahead of the good of this country. Plus she is a staunch supporter of Wall Street. I say no to both Hillary and to all the narrow minded bible thumping screwballs.
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    Mar 24, 2015 5:55 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    And yet ANOTHER copy and paste job by "the Woodsmen" from The New York Times. Is it at all possible for you to post something here from a source OTHER THAN The New York Times?????


    I think most people would take the New York Times any day over some of the rancorous bile you choose to pump out all day.