builtnycguy saidRose knew what the consequences of his actions would be, but he gambled anyway. The rationale for excluding Rose from baseball that Bud Selig, the former commissioner, always used is the historical precedence of the Chicago "Black Sox" throwing the 1919 World Series, an event that nearly destroyed the entire credibility of the major leagues. So if the Hall admits Rose, should it then also consider admitting some players who, although really good, almost ended professional baseball? And what message do you want to send today's (and tomorrow's) players -- gamble or cheat however you want and then just wait it out and everyone will forgive and forget? If the Hall ever breaks down and admits him, I hope it's posthumously. Don't give him the satisfaction of knowing he's in.
MLB was able to tie the '19 Black Sox's specific actions on the field with their choices to bet against themselves...
WikiAfter throwing a strike with his first pitch of the Series, Eddie Cicotte's second pitch struck Cincinnati leadoff hitter Morrie Rath in the back, delivering a pre-arranged signal confirming the players' willingness to go through with the fix.
Williams, one of the "Eight Men Out," lost three games, a Series record. Dickie Kerr, who was not part of the fix, won both of his starts. Cicotte bore down and won Game 7 of the best-of-9 Series; he was angry that the gamblers were now reneging on their promised payments, as they claimed that all the money was in the hands of bookies. Joseph J. "Sport" Sullivan, the gambler who initiated the fix, then paid infamous gangster Harry F to threaten to hurt Lefty Williams and his family if he did not lose the upcoming game 8. The White Sox lost Game 8 on October 9, ending the series.
Whatever Williams had been told made its impression. In the first inning throwing nothing but mediocre fastballs, he gave up four straight one-out hits for three runs before manager Kid Gleason relieved him.
...conversely, while Rose's actions as a manager
were questionable (because he sucked, lol), MLB failed to create a linkage between his managerial decisions and the specific bets that he made. Either they failed, or they declined to try.
WikiDowd interviewed many of Rose's associates, including alleged bookies and bet runners. He delivered a summary of his findings to the Commissioner in May. In it, Dowd documented Rose's alleged gambling activities in 1985 and 1986 and compiled a day-by-day account of Rose's alleged betting on baseball games in 1987. The Dowd Report documented his alleged bets on 52 Reds games in 1987, where Rose wagered a minimum of $10,000 a day. Others alleged to have been involved in the activities claim that number was actually $2,000 a day.
Rose was adamant that he never bet against
his Reds while he was on their payroll, and MLB never could prove it.
Still, their ban was based on the need to assume
he did... lest some media members dig up some later proof that would embarrass both Rose and the league. Despite the lead investigator's post-report assertions, a quarter-century has gone by and, still, no such proof exists that Rose bet against the team he managed.
WikiThe (1989) Dowd Report says, "no evidence was discovered that Rose bet against the Reds," but investigator (John) Dowd stated in a December 2002 interview that he believed Rose probably bet against the Reds while managing them.
Those critical of Rose's behavior, including Ohio's own Hall of Fame baseball reporter, Hal McCoy, have observed that "the major problem with Rose betting on baseball, particularly the Reds, is that as manager he could control games, make decisions that could enhance his chances of winning his bets, thus jeopardizing the integrity of the game."
The Major League Baseball rule that Rose violated prohibits any bet on a game the bettor is involved in, making no distinction between betting for or against one's team. The rule is: "Rule 21 Misconduct, (d) Betting on Ball Games, Any player, umpire, or club, or league official, or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible."
Now, no part of "Charlie Hustle"'s playing
days would suggest that he, unlike the Black Sox, was betting against himself and trying to fix games.
Rose became a victim of MLB's no-tolerance policy that came about because
of the Black Sox. MLB was no longer in a position to split hairs over how or why a player/manager gambles on games.
As far as consequences, Rose knew he risked fines and/or an indefinite suspension, with conditions attached to the possibility of reinstatement at some undeterminable time... but not a permanent, lifelong ban.
Rose would later argue he was snookered (by then-Commish Bart Giamatti) into voluntarily accepting the basis for a ban when he thought he was accepting the terms for an indefinite suspension: "You have to do X, Y, Z and prove A, B, C, just to have a chance to request reinstatement in the future," not "We don't care what you do from here on out... you're outta here!"
If Rose had a lawyer worth his salt he would have continued to negotiate with MLB, rather than simply try to "get it over with." It also didn't help that the guy he thought he was making an indefinite-suspension-deal with first insisted this was a ban, then croaked about a week later. MLB's real hangup with Rose is not about fearing he'll gamble again, but besmirching the legacy of their endeared ex-Commish.
WikiOn August 24, 1989, Rose voluntarily accepted a permanent place on baseball's ineligible list. Rose accepted that there was a factual reason for the ban; in return, Major League Baseball agreed to make no formal finding with regard to the gambling allegations.
According to baseball's rules, Rose could apply for reinstatement in one year but Bart Giamatti said, "There is absolutely no deal for reinstatement. That is exactly what we did not agree to in terms of a fixed number of years..." Rose began therapy with a psychiatrist for treatment of a gambling addiction.
Giamatti died of a heart attack on September 1, 1989, eight days after announcing Rose's suspension.