Andreas Lubitz, Pilot, Germanwings Tragedy - Spiritual/Astrological Information (and picture of pilot in San Francisco)

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    Mar 27, 2015 1:13 AM GMT
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    On the way home, the radio news mentioned the productivity pressure on commercial pilots whose salaries have intentionally been kept low.

    Born in the year of the Fire Cat/Rabbit.
    Sun conjunct Saturn and Uranus
    North Node in Pisces

    Astro-Databank has his chart without time of birth:

    http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJwtTkEKwjAQfI2gsIVsoLY15CAovejFi-fELK ZIEmlSSn29W_SyM8wwOzMPr0FL9QzaoIpOXyY7lA8coxvJZAiALaAE7NqG8SAEeCR4siXhmmIx1kwj9OcbNFQLqEWUe5hA1lJAhR1yQCjjbDSB9P_rRopfzWo4U0hjy9qJHhQsjUzXOoZtTCkCk5j4-DRlyjtly_LmyaF4bcqsfF50hWrMGu_9Fz3zPvI

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    Mar 27, 2015 1:27 AM GMT
    North Node in Pisces:

    Traditionally the north node in pisces connotes an individual with great vitality and good fortune with children. The Dragon’s Tail in Virgo indicates trouble with the mental side of life. It may mean a hyper critical attitude that leaves no room for appreciation of beauty.

    In past lifetimes, you were uber picky, even judgmental, and you bring this perspective with you into this incarnation. But it will pass away as you grow older. The longer you live, the more you will realize how rigid you have been. There is a world beyond what you can sense, and following the information you receive from your higher guidance will allow you to transcend the limits that have kept you in a prison of your own making.

    Possessing the north node in pisces, your need for structure is so great that you may make yourself sick with tension. You are prone to bouts of nervousness and irritability. There is only one cure: plunge into the cosmic ocean. Stop thinking and start feeling. Here is where your healing begins. You are probably asking yourself as you read this, “How does that work?” You must avoid exactly that type of analysis if you are to find happiness in this world.

    You were born with an innate sense of danger. You are distrustful of the world and question the qualifications of experts and others who attempt to make sense of our physical surroundings. You may even fear that everything foreign brings disease. The only antidote is faith for the north node in pisces.

    Many people with the north node in pisces placement have sexuality issues. They may be physically present but emotionally absent during intercourse. You may go through periods of sexual deprivation.

    You incarnated to ponder the mystery of how each individual is part of the Cosmic Whole. Each person is a cosmos unto himself, yet each is a discrete and unique piece of the universe. You must stop perceiving separateness and meditate on interconnectivity. If you are stubborn and resist this lesson, all your carefully laid plans will fall apart.

    At your worst, you are stubborn and scattered at the same time. You are incapable of setting priorities, and may have self-destructive tendencies.
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    Mar 27, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
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    thank you for posting his chart. He has a potentially "destructive mars conjunct pluto. and a lot of negative mother stuff going on. Not a pleasant person when "turned in to his "dark side". He has proven himself to be a Killer!!! of 140 human beings.
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    Mar 27, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    Mars conjunct Pluto

    Your ability to commit yourself to a task or goal is tremendous. When inspired, you are able to draw upon great stores of strength and determination. You can be so single-minded and focused that you readily lose yourself in a particular task, possibly to the point of obsession!
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    Mar 27, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
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    Mar 27, 2015 1:41 AM GMT
    Saturn conjunct Uranus

    Saturn conjunct Uranus

    No longer willing to go along with things the way they are. Shocking realities. Sudden authority. Chaos is the reality. Authorities attempt to suppress your freedom. Rules keep you from liberation. Pursuing freedom from restriction.

    http://astrofix.net/2011/05/05/saturnuranus-aspects/#.VRS0jY4ccgE
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    Mar 27, 2015 1:45 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]StephenOABC said[/cite]On the way home, the radio news mentioned the productivity pressure on commercial pilots whose salaries have intentionally been kept low.


    Lubitz had been an employee of the low-cost airline Germanwings, a Lufthansa subsidiary, since September 2013.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/what-we-know-about-the-co-pilot-who-deliberately-crashed-the
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    Mar 27, 2015 7:52 AM GMT
    Take a look at his astromap.

    I don't like him being a pilot in Europe crossing so many beams of heaven. Where's the mental stability with all that going on? So much is being activated.

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    Mar 27, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
    Oh for Christ's sake. What horrifying mental illness you exhibit. Oh man / so tragic / every single thing you post!
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    Mar 28, 2015 12:13 AM GMT
    I don't even have to see who the OP is (I have him blocked) to know who it is. LOL.
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    Mar 28, 2015 12:43 AM GMT
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    His Sun stellium (on the galactic centre) is opposite Chiron in Gemini. And makes a yod with Moon and Venus. Moon may not be exact though, depending on actual time. If this was an intentional suicide, then I wonder if a woman was involving in his misery.

    Pluto and Uranus are aspecting his Mars, suggesting deep and explosive anger about something.
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    Mar 28, 2015 12:45 AM GMT
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    His Sun stellium (on the galactic centre) is opposite Chiron in Gemini. And makes a yod with Moon and Venus. Moon may not be exact though, depending on actual time. If this was an intentional suicide, then I wonder if a woman was involving in his misery.

    Pluto and Uranus are aspecting his Mars, suggesting deep and explosive anger about something.


    A woman was involved in his misery according to a news report I heard today.

    Hm, "deep and explosive anger" with him tearing up his doctor's note to stay home Tuesday...
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    Mar 28, 2015 12:49 AM GMT
    StephenOABC saidTake a look at his astromap.

    I don't like him being a pilot in Europe crossing so many beams of heaven. Where's the mental stability with all that going on? So much is being activated.

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    A Response:

    What are beams of heaven?

    Answer:

    The angular lines of the planets upon the Earth, as seen on personal locational astrology maps.
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    Mar 28, 2015 1:41 AM GMT
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    Thank you for your insights and also for posting the chart. Can the astrolocality chart be drawn without a birth time? I probably just don't understand.

    I've seen a few times that progressed Sun hitting natal Venus will bring about suicidal feelings. Would certainly apply to having deep feelings related to a woman as often it is associated with desire to marry. Natal moon might be in conjunction with natal mars and Pluto. That certainly is a volatile aspect, kept well hidden under the Scorpio reserve.


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    Thank you. Let's hope astro.com can get his time of birth.

    How AstroCartoGraphy works can be simply understood by recognizing that at the moment of your birth, somewhere on the earth the Sun was rising, and somewhere else it was setting. At another place, it was directly overhead, while at some other place it was directly underfoot. The same is true for all the other planets. The lines in Astrocartography identify places at which planets occupied powerful positions at the moment of birth.

    http://shyamasundaradasa.com/jyotish/services/explanation_services/astrocartogra phy.html
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    Mar 28, 2015 1:47 AM GMT
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    Speculative natal MC for POB 173°53' squared by natal Saturn at 263°21'. Potential for acting out violently as Mars (223°31') and Pluto (223°59') are conjunct.

    Speculative Lubitz natal RAMC for crash site was at 172°30'. Natal Neptune-Pluto midpoint rose at 172°48'. This was not true at birth place. Natal Mars-Saturn midpoint rose at 173°14'. This does not exist at birth place. Natal Saturn at 263°21' square MC within 1 degree. Progressed Mars rose at 173°24'. Transit Saturn rose at 172°54' - would have been exactly on Asc a short distance West of crash site and as plane was descending.

    The progressed demi-anlunar (uses Moon from preceding solar return) MC at 173°41' was nearly exactly the same as birth place MC of 173°53' and natal MC of 172°30' at the crash site. The demi-anlunar MC is progressed to the time of the event by adding the Moon's arc from return inception to event time. The Nadir of the progressed demi-anlunar was at 331°51'. Lubitz' progressed Venus was at 331°17'.
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    Mar 28, 2015 1:53 AM GMT
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    Flight 9525 was scheduled to take off from Barcelona at 9:35AM, when the Taurus Moon was void of course. So already we have the potential for things not to go as planned. The Moon was conjunct the fixed star Algol, which in mythology and astrology suggests violence, “losing one’s head” and otherwise unfortunate endings. There is a strong feminine energy associated with Algol, and I wonder how this might play out as we learn more about this flight. In the departure chart, Moon and Algol are in the 12th House, the house of “self-undoing”.

    Update: it has been reported that the pilot who crashed the plane was having a “relationship crisis”

    The ruler of the chart for the actual flight departure at 10:01:12AM is Mercury in Pisces, almost exactly conjunct Chiron. Pisces can be a challenging placement for Mercury, which refers to mindset. Mercury functions more efficiently in signs like Gemini and Virgo, which support logic and discernment. Pisces can be a faith-based, sensitive sort — sometimes melancholy — and not always logical. Chiron represents a wounded healer. An additional suggestion of sacrifice, loss, martyrdom and bewilderment is suggested by Neptune squaring the Gemini Ascendant. Something about this whole event (the departure) is not as it seems.

    Rushing into the 12th House from the 11th is Mars, unaspected, and thus attracting a lot of attention. It is in Aries, a headstrong, reckless and/or courageous energy that needs to take action — and it does so quite effectively, for better or for worse. I could write more, but already we’ve covered enough points to see that this moment in time is not one any astrologer would consciously elect to do much of anything.

    The Ascendant of the chart for the actual crash at 10:41AM in Barcelonette is 29 Gemini — the Aries Point — suggesting prominence. We also see Pluto in a quindecile to that very prominent Ascendant, suggesting themes of power, obsession and potential destruction.

    In 1999, Egyptair 990 went down in the Atlantic shortly after takeoff. It was determined that one of the pilots had deliberately crashed the plane. That flight departed JFK at 1:19AM on October 31st. There are some similarities between that departure chart and that of Germanwings 4U9295.

    Exhibit A: the Sun is squared by Neptune, Uranus and the South Node. In classical astrology, the South Node suggests destruction. The Sun in the Germanwings chart is conjunct the South Node and Uranus. Exhibit B: the Moon is in the 12th House — but here it is challenged by opposing Neptune, the South Node and Uranus. Exhibit C: Like the Germanwings flight, Mercury is also conjunct Chiron. It is also in an obsessive quindecile to heavy Saturn — suggesting depression and/or control. Exhibit D: Mars is strongly placed — but here it is in “make-it-happen” Capricorn, and in an easy alignment with ambitious Saturn.

    I find these similarities interesting.

    We now have a birth date for Andreas Lubitz, the Germanwings pilot. He was born on December 18, 1987 — time unknown. I can think of others born around this date who have made headlines. One is known for an act of violence and a distorted sense of reality; another has been called a traitor or a hero, depending on one’s politics. Planetary patterns around this birth date are intense,

    Briefly, Lubitz’s Sun is in high-flying, Sagittarius, tightly conjunct Mercury and Saturn. This suggests a serious focus — and I would wonder about possible depression…and perhaps a challenging relationship with a strict father. Add erratic, restless, intensely independent Uranus to this tight cluster of planets and you can appreciate a maverick potential.

    Update: it has been reported that Lubitz did suffer from depression and sought to hide his condition from his employer.

    Other aspects involving the nodal axis and Chiron suggest a challenging relationship with the mother/maternal influence. Lubitz’s Moon is in either Scorpio or Sagittarius, probably the former. This suggests a reigning need to be seen as a person of substance and depth, likely concerned with acquiring knowledge as a means of gaining control. This Moon could be conjunct (depending upon birth time) Mars and Pluto, also in Scorpio. Mars and Pluto in Scorpio suggest extremes in action.

    Meanwhile, a potential wild card here is nebulous Neptune, planet of transcendence, fantasy, the spiritual and the delusional, What is this person’s vision? This can run away with the horoscope, for better or worse. Discipline and control challenged by a desire to move beyond boundaries?

    http://www.graceastrology.com/tag/andreas-lubitz-horoscope-astrology/
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    Mar 28, 2015 2:18 AM GMT
    StephenOABC saidA Professional Astrologer Posts:

    Flight 9525 was scheduled to take off from Barcelona at 9:35AM, when the Taurus Moon was void of course. So already we have the potential for things not to go as planned. The Moon was conjunct the fixed star Algol, which in mythology and astrology suggests violence, “losing one’s head” and otherwise unfortunate endings. There is a strong feminine energy associated with Algol, and I wonder how this might play out as we learn more about this flight. In the departure chart, Moon and Algol are in the 12th House, the house of “self-undoing”.

    Update: it has been reported that the pilot who crashed the plane was having a “relationship crisis”

    The ruler of the chart for the actual flight departure at 10:01:12AM is Mercury in Pisces, almost exactly conjunct Chiron. Pisces can be a challenging placement for Mercury, which refers to mindset. Mercury functions more efficiently in signs like Gemini and Virgo, which support logic and discernment. Pisces can be a faith-based, sensitive sort — sometimes melancholy — and not always logical. Chiron represents a wounded healer. An additional suggestion of sacrifice, loss, martyrdom and bewilderment is suggested by Neptune squaring the Gemini Ascendant. Something about this whole event (the departure) is not as it seems.

    Rushing into the 12th House from the 11th is Mars, unaspected, and thus attracting a lot of attention. It is in Aries, a headstrong, reckless and/or courageous energy that needs to take action — and it does so quite effectively, for better or for worse. I could write more, but already we’ve covered enough points to see that this moment in time is not one any astrologer would consciously elect to do much of anything.

    The Ascendant of the chart for the actual crash at 10:41AM in Barcelonette is 29 Gemini — the Aries Point — suggesting prominence. We also see Pluto in a quindecile to that very prominent Ascendant, suggesting themes of power, obsession and potential destruction.

    In 1999, Egyptair 990 went down in the Atlantic shortly after takeoff. It was determined that one of the pilots had deliberately crashed the plane. That flight departed JFK at 1:19AM on October 31st. There are some similarities between that departure chart and that of Germanwings 4U9295.

    Exhibit A: the Sun is squared by Neptune, Uranus and the South Node. In classical astrology, the South Node suggests destruction. The Sun in the Germanwings chart is conjunct the South Node and Uranus. Exhibit B: the Moon is in the 12th House — but here it is challenged by opposing Neptune, the South Node and Uranus. Exhibit C: Like the Germanwings flight, Mercury is also conjunct Chiron. It is also in an obsessive quindecile to heavy Saturn — suggesting depression and/or control. Exhibit D: Mars is strongly placed — but here it is in “make-it-happen” Capricorn, and in an easy alignment with ambitious Saturn.

    I find these similarities interesting.

    We now have a birth date for Andreas Lubitz, the Germanwings pilot. He was born on December 18, 1987 — time unknown. I can think of others born around this date who have made headlines. One is known for an act of violence and a distorted sense of reality; another has been called a traitor or a hero, depending on one’s politics. Planetary patterns around this birth date are intense,

    Briefly, Lubitz’s Sun is in high-flying, Sagittarius, tightly conjunct Mercury and Saturn. This suggests a serious focus — and I would wonder about possible depression…and perhaps a challenging relationship with a strict father. Add erratic, restless, intensely independent Uranus to this tight cluster of planets and you can appreciate a maverick potential.

    Update: it has been reported that Lubitz did suffer from depression and sought to hide his condition from his employer.

    Other aspects involving the nodal axis and Chiron suggest a challenging relationship with the mother/maternal influence. Lubitz’s Moon is in either Scorpio or Sagittarius, probably the former. This suggests a reigning need to be seen as a person of substance and depth, likely concerned with acquiring knowledge as a means of gaining control. This Moon could be conjunct (depending upon birth time) Mars and Pluto, also in Scorpio. Mars and Pluto in Scorpio suggest extremes in action.

    Meanwhile, a potential wild card here is nebulous Neptune, planet of transcendence, fantasy, the spiritual and the delusional, What is this person’s vision? This can run away with the horoscope, for better or worse. Discipline and control challenged by a desire to move beyond boundaries?

    http://www.graceastrology.com/tag/andreas-lubitz-horoscope-astrology/


    Now, do we need further proof that a good notion of God must include Astrology--and astrology beyond the solar system, given Algol.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algol
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    Mar 28, 2015 2:23 AM GMT
    Algol is 92.96 light years from Earth.
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    Mar 28, 2015 2:25 AM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_in_astrology

    Aldebaran

    Astrologically, Aldebaran is a fortunate star, portending riches and honor. This star, named "Tascheter" by the Persians, is one of the four "royal stars" of the Persians from around 3000 BC. These stars were chosen in such way that they were approximately 6 hours apart in right ascension. Each of these stars was assigned to a season, Aldebaran was prominent in the March sky and as such, it was associated with the vernal equinox. Its current celestial longitude is 09 Ge. 47 as of 2006[11]

    The four royal stars with their modern and ancient Persian names were

    Aldebaran (Alpha Tauri) vernal equinox is the brightest star in the constellation Taurus.
    Regulus (Alpha Leonis) summer solstice is the brightest star in the constellation Leo.
    Antares (Alpha Scorpii) autumnal equinox is the brightest star in the constellation Scorpius.
    Fomalhaut (Alpha Piscis) winter solstice is the brightest star in the constellation Piscis Austrinus.

    To medieval astrologers, Aldebaran was one of fifteen Behenian stars, associated with rubies, milk thistles and the kabbalistic sign Aldaboram (Agripa 1531).svg.

    In Hindu astrology, Aldebaran corresponds to the Rohini Nakshatra.

    In Western Sidereal Astrology, computation is based on defining Aldebaran as 15 degrees Taurus precisely.
    Algol

    In astrology, Algol is one of the most unfortunate stars.[12] Ptolemy referred to it as "the Gorgon of Perseus" and associated it with death by decapitation: mirroring the myth of the hero Perseus’ victory over the snake-headed Gorgon Medusa.[13] Historically, it has received a strong association with violence across a wide variety of cultures. Medieval Arabic commanders tried to ensure that no important battle began whilst the light of Algol was weak.[14] It may be connected to the periodic lucky prognoses in an ancient Egyptian calendar for lucky and unlucky days composed about 3200 years ago.[15][16] The 17th century English astrologer William Lilly regarded any planet to be afflicted when within five degrees of conjunction.[17] As of 1986 its celestial longitude was 25 Tau. 55'48.[18]

    Algol is also one of the 15 Behenian stars,[19] associated with the diamond and hellebore, and marked with the kabbalistic sign: Algol symbol (Agripe 1531).svg
    Gienah

    Gienah (gamma Corvi) is supposed to have a similar effect to Mars and Saturn, tending to promote greed and craftiness. It was one of the medieval Behenian stars, associated with onyx, burdock, and a crow-like kabbalistic symbol Agrippa1531 alaCorui.png. In this context it is sometimes referred to as Ala Corvi, "the wing of the crow or raven".
    Procyon

    Astrologically, Procyon is considered mostly unfortunate although it is sometimes wealth producing. It has strong potential as a cause of violence; it brings sudden success then disaster.[20] It is of the nature of Mars (and also Mercury to a lesser extent),[21] and when Mars is found conjoined to this star, the native with this configuration will often be an offender of mischief and violence, that is, if these stars are found upon one of the 4 angles of the chart, during the day, with the Moon making a testimony to them while increasing in light.[22] It is also one of fifteen Behenian stars, associated with agate and water crowfoot. According to Cornelius Agrippa, its kabbalistic symbol is Agrippa1531 Canisminor.png.
    Sirius

    In the astrology of the Middle Ages, Sirius was a Behenian fixed star, associated with beryl and juniper. Its kabbalistic symbol Sirius - Agrippa.png was listed by Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa. Its celestial longitude was 14 Can. 05 as of 2006.[23]
    Vega

    Vega (or Wega) takes its name from a loose transliteration of the Arabic word wāqi‘ meaning "falling".[24] Its constellation (Lyre) was represented as a vulture or eagle so that Vega was referred to as the 'falling vulture/eagle'.[25] This is a Pole star. Around 12,000 BC the pole was pointed only five degrees away from Vega and through precession, the pole will again pass near Vega around AD 14,000.[26] Medieval astrologers counted Vega as one of the Behenian stars[27] and related it to chrysolite and winter savory. Cornelius Agrippa listed its kabbalistic sign Agrippa1531 Vulturcadens.png under Vultur cadens, a literal Latin translation of the Arabic name.[28] Its celestial longitude was 15 Cap. 19 as of 2006.[23]
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    Mar 28, 2015 6:28 AM GMT
    You're mentally ill if you believe any of this crap.
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    Mar 28, 2015 10:16 AM GMT
    The facts of Astrology are firmly established.
    The astrological facts of this case are firmly established by professionals in this field.
    C. G. Jung is one of the prominent analysts who has written on the efficacy of Astrology.

    Those who turn away from inconvenient truths are not wise.
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    Mar 29, 2015 11:17 AM GMT
    From the Professional Astrologer Suzanne White
    In Her Book, The New Chinese Astrology
    Chapter: The Cat Out of the Bag
    Section: The Five Chinese Elements and How They Influence the Cat
    Sub-Section: The Fire Cat

    (Various statements)

    Fire often brings instability to the staid Cat yet also adds verve to his prissy, over-correct nature.

    He is not naturally well equipped for dealing with inner conflict. Yet he creates it by holding his real feelings in while waiting for the moment to strike. If he could learn to be more humane, put his ego in his pocket, acquire a knowledge of how to care for others and exchange his feelings more readily, he could avoid engendering complex chronic health problems such as depression and neuroses later on.

    Cat men often choose bachelorhood or even a non-involved homosexual relationship rather than become embroiled in conflict-ridden marriages.

    The Cat is gifted for neither war nor strife. Forcing himself to live or work in stressful situations will not only shorten but make his life perfectly miserable.

    As the male Cat adores his independence, he often chooses to run his own enterprise. He doesn't like to work in crowded places and is not relaxed about sharing professional quarters with people he deems his social inferiors. A solo operation suits his snobbishness and fits his character well. As his main aim in life is financial and mental security, a good home and a harmonious lifestyle, it behooves the Cat to play it safe, stay away from jobs which require daring feats of individual creativity and/or long periods of impecuniousness {definition: definition, having little or no money; penniless; poor} before reaching success.

    He is devoted to self-preservation and often devoid of altruism, conscience, or humanity.

    The moral struggle between good and evil does not unreasonably trouble the extenuated Cat's soul.

    To ensure the survival of his snug way of life or keep his psyche's integrity intact, the Cat is capable of elaborate subterfuge. This underhand behavior can range from ignoring pleading letters

    {ignoring the pleading of the pilot knocking on the door}

    to recording phone conversations unbeknown to the caller, blackmail, or the concocting of dissimulations {definition: concealment of one's thoughts, feelings, or character; pretense} so baroque as to make hair grow on your eardrums.

    Worst of all, cornered Cats, apprehensive of confrontation, are capable of self-delusion bordering on madness.
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    Mar 29, 2015 2:03 PM GMT
    This is exactly why Christianity needs Astrology and Psychoanalysis: Andreas needed salvation. His victims needed salvation from him.

    And, yes, as it being the human condition, WE all need salvation from self, others, society, conditions, etc.
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    Mar 29, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/germanwings-crash-co-pilot-hid-illness-airline-050913689.html
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    Mar 29, 2015 2:52 PM GMT
    Germanwings crash: Mother, daughter among 3 American victims

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/25/us/germanwings-crash-american-victims/