Which Disciples of John the Baptist Became Disciples of Jesus?

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    Mar 27, 2015 7:12 AM GMT
    Andrew, brother of Simon Peter (Cephas), was a former disciple of John the Baptist.

    John 1:35-51New International Version (NIV)
    John’s Disciples Follow Jesus

    35 The next day John was there again with two of his disciples. 36 When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, “Look, the Lamb of God!”

    37 When the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus. 38 Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, “What do you want?”

    They said, “Rabbi” (which means “Teacher”), “where are you staying?”

    39 “Come,” he replied, “and you will see.”

    So they went and saw where he was staying, and they spent that day with him. It was about four in the afternoon.

    40 Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus. 41 The first thing Andrew did was to find his brother Simon and tell him, “We have found the Messiah” (that is, the Christ). 42 And he brought him to Jesus.

    Jesus looked at him and said, “You are Simon son of John. You will be called Cephas” (which, when translated, is Peter[a]).
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    Mar 27, 2015 7:19 AM GMT
    They were in Bethany when this happened;
    Andrew, Peter, and Philip were from Bethsaida, north of Bethany.
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    Mar 27, 2015 7:26 AM GMT
    So far:

    Andrew and an un-named disciple of John the Baptist

    Peter, brother of Andrew may have been a disciple of John since his brother was a disciple of John


    Jesus finds Philip (who presumably was working w/ John the Baptist.

    Philip finds Nathaniel

    Five disciples of John the Baptist:
    Andrew, Un-named, Peter, Philip, Nathaniel

    Philip, Andrew, and Peter were from Bethsaida.
    Currently, we do not know where Nathaniel and Un-named are from.
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    Mar 27, 2015 7:29 AM GMT
    Which disciples had Greek names?

    here is a list of the names of Jesus' disciples.

    Bartholomew / Nathanael
    James, the Elder
    James, the Lesser or Younger
    Jude / Thaddeus
    Matthew / Levi
    Peter or Simon Peter
    Simon the Zealot
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    Mar 29, 2015 11:49 AM GMT
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    All the names in the gospels are in Greek, since the gospels are written in Greek. Most of the disciples, however, had names with Hebrew or Aramaic equivalents. Richard Bauckham has a couple interesting chapters in his book Jesus and the Eyewitnesses.

    Simon = Simeon (but this is also an independent Greek name)

    John = Yehohanan, Yohanan

    Levi = Levi

    Matthew = Mattai

    Matthias = Mattiya or Mattiyah

    Thadeus = Taddai (or possibly Greek Theodosios, Theodotus, or Theodoros)

    Judas = Yehudah

    James = Ya’aqov

    Bartholomew = bar Ptolemaios (Bauckham – “popular because it was a royal name of the Hellenistic rulers of Egypt”)

    Nathanael = Netan’el

    Thomas = Teoma (Bauckham – “there is little indication that Thomas was used as a name by Palestinian Jews.”)

    Disciples with Greek names in the Gospels: Andrew and Philip.

    Bauckham argues that use of popular names of Palestinian Jews in the gospels makes it more likely that they trace their tradition back to Palestine. He also argues (by citation, not evidence) that diaspora naming was different. However, a quick review of the more recently published volumes of Tal Ilan’s Lexicon of Jewish Names in Late Antiquity shows that Biblical and Hasmonean names (like those listed above) are also represented in the Eastern and Western diaspora, although the frequency of Hasmonean names (i.e. Simon, John, Matthias) is somewhat reduced. It seems to me that the name data (of the disciples, not of all characters in the gospels) fits reasonably well with first century Palestine, but does not rule out diaspora.

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    Mar 29, 2015 11:51 AM GMT

    My notes on Rev. Walt Marcum’s assertions about Greek names of Disciples:

    Where did these Hellenistic Jesus believers come from?
    There is some evidence that there may have been some Hellenists among the original disciples of Jesus. Three of his disciples had Greek names: Peter, Philip, and Andrew.

    {I disagree. Philip and Andrew, yes; but, Peter’s name was originally Simon. achase79 wrote:
    Simon = Simeon (but this is also an independent Greek name)

    So, maybe we have 2 and a half possibilities disciples with Greek names.}

    John’s Gospel tells us that all three disciples came from the same town, Bethsaida:

    John 1: 44: Now Philip was from Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.

    Archeological Evidence shows that Bethsaida was a mixed Jewish and Gentile city with stone cups and pork bones. This may explain another story in John. John 12: 20-21: Now, among those who went up to the worship at the festival were some Greeks. They came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee, and said to him, “Sir, we wish to see Jesus.” The implication is that the Greeks approached one of their own–Philip was Greek.