Obama rules?

  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 24, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
    Mr. President breaking his own rule. Your thoughts:

    Obama Already Breaking His Own Rules
    Josh Rogin reports:


    President Obama’s new lobbying rules are fueling the concerns of senators from both parties regarding the nomination of William Lynn to become deputy defense secretary.

    Obama signed an executive order Wednesday strengthening the restrictions on lobbyists and former lobbyists entering his administration.

    “If you are a lobbyist entering my administration, you will not be able to work on matters you lobbied on, or in the agencies you lobbied, during the previous two years,” Obama said in a press conference.

    Lynn lobbied on behalf of defense contractor Raytheon Co. until last year and now stands to be in a position to make decisions on a plethora of the defense giant’s programs as the new manager of the Pentagon.


    After vilifying lobbyists during the campaign, Obama is finding out how difficult it is to manage the government without their help. The most absurd part of this is that Obama, a man who puts such great emphasis on expertise as to have no less than 300 foreign policy advisers, has created a system that allows lobbyists in his administration but only in those fields in which they have no experience and no expertise. As Harry Reid said this Tuesday, "People should understand that lobbyists, per se, are someone's father, mother, son, daughter." Or in this case, someone's nominee. icon_eek.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_idea.gif

  • olden

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    Jan 24, 2009 4:51 AM GMT
    Here is the proverbial rock and a hard spot. Bill Lynn is one of less than a dozen people who has the knowledge and experience to fill the position. The problem that will arise is that he will recuse himself from the very decisions that he is most qualified to make. Since Raytheon builds many components for the US missile defense systems, they will be bidding on a lot of projects and proposing a lot of projects. Lynn is uniquely qualified to evaluate these proposals, but may not be allowed to.

    There are times when some rules must be suspended to provide the most advantageous outcome.

    I have more problems with some of the other Obama picks for Cabinet. Hillary always reminds me of the line from Yes, MInister, a British comedy series about government - "You have to get behind (show support for) someone, before you can stab them in the back."
  • PipHop

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    Jan 24, 2009 4:54 AM GMT
    ^ LOL Excellent response icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 24, 2009 6:17 AM GMT
    What is your point? Your message is very convoluted or are just looking for a reason to complain about Obama?


    I'm just saying weren't the lobbyist t of the part od the insider problem?

    The man hasn't been in office a full week yet.

    Come on MikemikeMIke!
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    Jan 24, 2009 6:59 AM GMT
    olden said
    There are times when some rules must be suspended to provide the most advantageous outcome.



    I thought it was called 'breaking the rules'?

    What value does a rule possess that should exist in the first place? How valuable can it possibly be if it is cast aside for a number 2 spot? Perhaps its value has diminished. So what has changed then, since the rule was proposed?

    Oh right, he was elected. The 'rule' served to attract votes to his 'Change' campaign, and now that any pretenses of Change can be dismissed, they are.

    He is a politician, should you be surprised when he doesn't keep his word? icon_rolleyes.gif

    Politics is srs bsnss!
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    Jan 25, 2009 7:01 PM GMT
    Awwwww, come-on Buckwheat !!! Obama could have ten x lobbyists in his cabinet and it still constitute drastic change from the bushies !!! But he doesn't, this is one major break from Obama's Ideal, and the real point behind his change mantra, is not to be allowing those x lobbyists to take missadvantage for personal gain, or that of their buddy's from their Gov. positions as what happened under bushies. (such as haliburtan (cheney's x employer) and KBR (which was a bush owned company and bought out by haliburtan while cheney was CEO) being awarded no bid contracts, imagine the snowball effect that had on their lobbyist cabinet position holders) Now surely you can see a mighty big change from that !!!! You must give Obama credit for making a lot of changes he promised, look at what has already taken place in his first several days in office. If the new appointee starts handing out contracts to his chronies, then we will have something to complain about, but not now !!!
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    Jan 25, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
    As reallifedad pointed out, fans of Bush and Dick really have no room to bitch.

    When/if this guys company gets a contract, THEN go ahead and raise a stink.
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    Jan 25, 2009 7:36 PM GMT
    Ducky44 saidWhat is your point? Your message is very convoluted or are just looking for a reason to complain about Obama?

    BINGO! MikemikeMike is perpetually anti-Obama, pro-Republican. We can expect to see more of this nit-picking in the future. As long as we consider the negative source, we can put it into perspective, and dismiss it.

    No that I oppose political criticism & debate; far from it. That's what was nearly outlawed in the previous Republican Administration and Congress, and what makes for a healthy democracy.

    I just object to relentless criticism for criticism's sake, which is what we have here.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 25, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    It's not nit picking!!! It's a huge deal when he makes a rule without reaserching it first and then waffles and breaks it himself.

    He is already showing he is not ready for the position of President of the USA. I see grey hair already.