Cowardly Christian business owner proudly denies service to gay people in Indiana

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    Mar 30, 2015 12:03 AM GMT
    Soon after I came out in the early 90's, I had one employer (I worked for 4.5 years already) HR person tell me "we don't want that here", when I inquired about a diversity policy. Soon after I was legally 'fired' for being gay in a state with no protections icon_confused.gif



    http://www.outsports.com/2015/3/27/8303925/christian-indiana-business-gay-refuse-service

    "I feel OK with it because it's my place of business," he told the radio station. "I pay the rent. I built it. It's all my money and my doing. It's my place. I can do whatever I want with it. They can have their lifestyle and do their things on their own place or at people that want to be with them in their type of place, not my place."

    He added that he knows "tons" of business owners in Indiana who agree with the law and don't want gay people in their businesses. They will, presumably, be actively discriminating against gay people now that they can legally do so. While we haven't heard yet of a business proactively kicking gay people out of their establishment since the law is passed, this is some evidence that there are business owners who are empowered to do so and intend to do so immediately.

    "We don't want this in our places of business," the anonymous restaurateur said. "It's not right."


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    Mar 30, 2015 12:07 AM GMT
    And so now it begins, despite what Governor Pence is trying to deny on Sunday morning news talk shows. icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 30, 2015 12:12 AM GMT
    Ok, so when I open my next business, I'm going to deny service - and refuse to hire - anyone who has religious convictions that discriminate against gays (or anyone for that matter).
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    Mar 30, 2015 12:24 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidOk, so when I open my next business, I'm going to deny service - and refuse to hire - anyone who has religious convictions that discriminate against gays (or anyone for that matter).

    Actually it could be anything, as the Indiana law is written. If you don't like Jews, based on your religious beliefs, you can deny them service, too.

    Also Blacks, because the Bible has some passages that could be seen to exclude them from God's children. Certainly the Southern slave owners quoted those passages in the era of the US Civil War, to justify Black slavery.

    This is where Republicans have taken us. Back to the mid-1800s, where women are chattel, and Blacks are slaves.

    Although gays really weren't on the radar back then, the word homosexual hadn't even been invented yet. But the Right Wing fundamentalists have included us in their hate lexicon today.

    Just another category that Jesus hates. And i mistakenly thought Jesus was about love. Evidently I was wrong.
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    Mar 30, 2015 12:29 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidAnd so now it begins, despite what Governor Pence is trying to deny on Sunday morning news talk shows. icon_sad.gif



    Yeah, I guess now that the 'cat is out of the bag' and to avoid any future employment problems and or a on the job safety issues, during the job interview process, it would now be totally appropriate for the open LGBT candidate to ask the potential employer or hiring manager of his or her religious beliefs, something that has never been discussed during job interviews, not that I know of

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    Mar 30, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    JuanPablomv89 said
    Dont you think that gay closeted men who USED women to cover up their homosexuality as you did getting married by the catholic church with God laws is a coward thing to do?.

    Do you have an excuse to justify yourself and blame Republicans as you usually do?.

    You should read the book the other side of the closet and you will see how all those women who were used by men like you suffered feeling betrayed by their husband.

    I'm gonna ignore and correct your inept quoting, and still address you.

    I was never closeted. And I never "used" a woman in my life. Nor any man, for that matter.

    Your fantasies about me are very strange, and rather disturbing. Perhaps some professional help would be of assistance.

    Although, I see a strong correlation with another guy here, who had a very similar sick obsession about me. Suggesting you may be a sock of his.

    Well, whatever, under whatever RJ account, you do need some help. The sooner the better.
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    Mar 30, 2015 2:39 AM GMT
    43rueperronet said
    The truth is--
    Art Deco was closeted--
    Art Deco lived a lie--- for 50 years
    Art Deco is an alcoholic

    The truth is coming out

    None of that is the truth. Just your warped Right Wing falsehoods.

    Please prove any of it. You are one sick puppy. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 30, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
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    Indiana Takes on America: Discrimination Against Gays, Religious Freedom and Rewriting the Constitution
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-brodsky/indiana-takes-on-america_b_6964700.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

    If you think you've heard this before, you're right. It's the same argument used to attack Obamacare in the "Hobby Lobby" lawsuit. That time is was about insurance coverage for contraception, but the argument was the same.

    The traditional view was that by engaging in business, you agreed to live by the laws of commerce. If not, then religious belief could justify segregation, or refusal to hire or serve women, or Muslims, or Catholics, or Jews. Or gays. There were, and are, a lot of sincerely religious people who would jump at that opportunity. The Indiana law re-establishes the right to commercially discriminate, especially against gays, if that's your religious teaching.

    The Indiana brouhaha illuminates the broader, and more dangerous legal strategy at the heart of Tea Party, right-wing ideology, the personification of corporations. By enlarging the constitutional rights of powerful, wealthy and largely conservative corporations, the Right is diminishing the constitutional rights of most Americans.

    It isn't the least bit "conservative". It is a radical, un-American, reactionary re-writing of our basic freedoms. We had struck a constitutional balance between private religious observance and public commercial activity. Real conservatives would be looking for a way to reasonably accommodate both interests.