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  • MikemikeMike

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    Apr 01, 2015 10:59 AM GMT
    How many can you do? I can do a lot. Its funny my gym has a decent amount of roid guys who can even do 20icon_exclaim.gif
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    Apr 01, 2015 7:00 PM GMT
    I try to do 3 sets of 10 but it's wishfully thinking.
  • xamora

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    Apr 01, 2015 9:19 PM GMT
    I put on a 20kg weight belt and do 3 sets of 6 wide grip pull ups. When I'm doing forearm work, I'll do 6 sets of 10 neutral grip chin ups with my Fat Gripz with as little rest between sets as possible. http://www.fatgripz.com I can't even hold my weight for more than a few seconds after that. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 01, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
    When I was trying to grow, I'd grip a dumbbell between my knees.
    Now, on back day I usually just do six or eight sets of 12 with various grips.
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    Apr 01, 2015 11:20 PM GMT
    Definitely a point of weakness for me, but I've improved quite a bit over the last year. I used to only be able to to two before having to give up. Now I can do eight.
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    Apr 01, 2015 11:41 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidHow many can you do? I can do a lot. Its funny my gym has a decent amount of roid guys who can even do 20icon_exclaim.gif


    When I was much younger, I could do more than 20 chin-ups. There was one guy in the gym who could do a one-arm chin-up, but I was never able to do that although I could come close. Now I can do only nine chin-ups.

    And, get this: I never took protein supplements or any other kind of supplement. That is why I question the need for such supplements.

    I was, at that time, also able to do 10 lat pull downs with 210 pounds, pulling the bar behind my neck, even though I weighed barely more than 140 pounds. Of course we shouldn't have been doing that, but we didn't know any better at the time. Now I can do only 9 lat pull downs with 140 pounds.

    Obviously approaching 80 has had an effect, and I do not like it!
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    Apr 01, 2015 11:51 PM GMT
    go_dreaming saidDefinitely a point of weakness for me, but I've improved quite a bit over the last year. I used to only be able to to two before having to give up. Now I can do eight.


    I suggest doing the lat pull down instead, if you have the equipment available, until you can easily handle more than your body weight with the lat pull down. You could choose a weight that permits you to do 10 lat pull downs for the first set then consider reducing the weight slightly for the next two sets. Decades ago, when I could do more than 20 chin-ups, I rarely actually did chin-ups; I developed the strength to do that many chin-ups by doing only lat pull downs, so I know that it works.
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    Apr 02, 2015 1:21 AM GMT
    I can do 20.
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    Apr 02, 2015 2:03 AM GMT
    With kipping I can probably do 20. Strict I would say 5.
  • dreamcock

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    Apr 02, 2015 2:51 AM GMT
    I do 3 sets 10 reps with legs extended in the L shape that way your working the abs as well
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    Apr 02, 2015 3:39 AM GMT
    Seriously? With a 'bod like that? I'm not buying it icon_surprised.gif

    Alpha13 saidI try to do 3 sets of 10 but it's wishfully thinking.
  • wesv

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    Apr 02, 2015 5:00 AM GMT
    I think the most pull-ups I've ever done was 16. I'm more of a push-up guy. My goal this spring is to surpass 131 push ups to beat last year's record in my circuit training class. I don't think I can beat last year's record of 26 pull-ups.
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    Apr 02, 2015 5:05 AM GMT
    westsidetony saidSeriously? With a 'bod like that? I'm not buying it icon_surprised.gif

    Alpha13 saidI try to do 3 sets of 10 but it's wishfully thinking.


    I met a trainer at a party last week who had tremendous traps and he hates doing them to. He told be to do heavy shoulder shrugs on the smith machine instead. I lost shoulder rear deltoid strength doing yoga for 3 years.
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    Apr 02, 2015 6:31 AM GMT
    That's a good tip! I suppose you can get the same benefit from shrugging dumbbells or plates. Either way, nice alternative. icon_biggrin.gif

    Alpha13 saidI try to do 3 sets of 10 but it's wishfully thinking.


    I met a trainer at a party last week who had tremendous traps and he hates doing them to. He told be to do heavy shoulder shrugs on the smith machine instead. I lost shoulder rear deltoid strength doing yoga for 3 years.
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  • android_2012

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    Apr 02, 2015 7:06 AM GMT
    wesv saidI think the most pull-ups I've ever done was 16. I'm more of a push-up guy. My goal this spring is to surpass 131 push ups to beat last year's record in my circuit training class. I don't think I can beat last year's record of 26 pull-ups.

    Hold on...hold on....do you mean 131 push ups in one set? At one go???icon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
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    Apr 02, 2015 7:26 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidHow many can you do? I can do a lot. Its funny my gym has a decent amount of roid guys who can even do 20icon_exclaim.gif

    So what are you trying to say? If the roided guys can do 20, how many can you do?

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    Apr 02, 2015 9:19 AM GMT
    westsidetony saidThat's a good tip! I suppose you can get the same benefit from shrugging dumbbells or plates. Either way, nice alternative. icon_biggrin.gif

    Alpha13 saidI try to do 3 sets of 10 but it's wishfully thinking.


    I met a trainer at a party last week who had tremendous traps and he hates doing them to. He told be to do heavy shoulder shrugs on the smith machine instead. I lost shoulder rear deltoid strength doing yoga for 3 years.
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    He said raise a very heavy weight directly up and down not the shoulder shrugs where you rotate the shoulder joint.
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    Apr 02, 2015 2:00 PM GMT
    75..definitely the gym and this particular workout does not have any connections..it's about routines..
  • FRE0

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    Apr 02, 2015 4:38 PM GMT
    wesv saidI think the most pull-ups I've ever done was 16. I'm more of a push-up guy. My goal this spring is to surpass 131 push ups to beat last year's record in my circuit training class. I don't think I can beat last year's record of 26 pull-ups.


    Although I was able to do more than 20 chin-ups, I could never have done anywhere near even 50 push-ups even though I could do 145# bench presses.
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    Apr 02, 2015 4:40 PM GMT
    android_2012 said
    wesv saidI think the most pull-ups I've ever done was 16. I'm more of a push-up guy. My goal this spring is to surpass 131 push ups to beat last year's record in my circuit training class. I don't think I can beat last year's record of 26 pull-ups.

    Hold on...hold on....do you mean 131 push ups in one set? At one go???icon_eek.gificon_eek.gif


    There are guys who can, but not very many.
  • wesv

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    Apr 03, 2015 4:39 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    android_2012 said
    wesv saidI think the most pull-ups I've ever done was 16. I'm more of a push-up guy. My goal this spring is to surpass 131 push ups to beat last year's record in my circuit training class. I don't think I can beat last year's record of 26 pull-ups.

    Hold on...hold on....do you mean 131 push ups in one set? At one go???icon_eek.gificon_eek.gif


    There are guys who can, but not very many.


    I've actually done 100 push-ups in one set before. I could probably do more now since I'm stronger.
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    Apr 03, 2015 4:50 AM GMT
    Well, it's good to balance chest and back exercises to get that nice V-shape.

    But really, pull-ups are one of those things that it utterly does not matter how many you can do today. Do how many you can do, regularly, and the number just goes up like clockwork. Likewise, lay off them for a while, and the number goes down dramatically. But it comes right back up with a little effort.
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    Apr 03, 2015 3:28 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    MikemikeMike saidHow many can you do? I can do a lot. Its funny my gym has a decent amount of roid guys who can even do 20icon_exclaim.gif


    So, you started this thread to bash a particular demographic at your gym and build yourself up simultaneously? Well gee, that's not obvious at all.

    Let's not forget some rudimentary physics here. A bigger guy with longer limbs and heavier body weight is not going to be able to do the same amount of weight and volume as a shorter person who weighs much less.


    These were my thoughts as well. Also:

    • Pull-ups and chin-ups aren't the same thing. Chin-ups (palms facing in toward your face) are a lot easier because they make better use of your bicep strength. Pull-ups (palms facing out) require more back and shoulders with some forearms. So most people can do more chin-ups.

    • If you do them strict, you're lifting your entire body weight without momentum — harder to do. Kipping gives you swing momentum that will get you up to the bar more often.

    • Finally, stop counting how many reps other people are doing at the gym. It's childish. Grow up.

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    Apr 03, 2015 8:54 PM GMT
    Roids make people stronger but you don't need roids to be able to do 20 chin ups / pull ups. Hard work though.

    Wait, do you mean proper, full range of motion pull ups or those shitty ones I see in the gym (sometimes) where the dude moves through less than 90 degrees at the elbow? Not hard work.
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    Apr 03, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
    I can do 20 at my current weight pretty darn strict too. The last few are a bitch lol. No momentum and kipping for me. Never could get that right. Ha!