Limits of Tylernol

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    Apr 02, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
    NYT: Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is widely recommended for the relief of back pain and the pain of knee and hip arthritis. But a systematic review of randomized trials has found that it works no better than a placebo.

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/the-limits-of-tylenol-for-pain-relief/?ref=health
  • metta

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    Apr 02, 2015 4:09 PM GMT
    ibuprofen works better for any kind of pain caused from inflammation, including back pain.
  • FRE0

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    Apr 02, 2015 5:03 PM GMT
    metta8 saidibuprofen works better for any kind of pain caused from inflammation, including back pain.


    That's true. I have a problem with chronically recurring iritis and if I am having a particularly difficult attack, the doctor recommends supplementing the steroid eye drops with ibuprofen, not acetaminophen; acetaminophen is generic for Tylenol.

    In any case, it is cheaper to get the generic equivalent than the brand name.

    Often stretching exercises are more effective for back pain than medications. By experimenting with stretching exercises, I was able to get rid of the pain, usually 100%, and use no more medication. I'm not saying that that would work for everyone. Before I found what worked for me, the orthopedist actually had me fitted for a corset! I've never used it.

    It is often just assumed that back pain is the result of having weak abdominal muscles, but that is not always the case. The exercises recommended by physical therapists do not always work. By experimenting, I found what did work for me and it is highly effective.
  • metta

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    Apr 02, 2015 5:20 PM GMT
    Yep....and you only want to take this stuff when you really need it. It is not good to take on a regular basis. If I have back pain (which thankfully has been very rare for over a decade), I take one dose ibuprofen at 600 mg (more than recommended) and I find that it works much better for me than taking several doses of 400mg (the recommended dose). I'm not recommending that other people do this. This is just works for me.
  • real_diver2

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    Apr 02, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
    You also have to watch because high doses of Tylenol (acetaminophen) can result in liver damage. As long as you don't abuse it (take higher than acceptable doses), you are probably OK. But there are safer options.

    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/820200-overview
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    Apr 02, 2015 11:21 PM GMT
    Another recommendation from the NYT, is when you have a bad back from exercise, take off two weeks to let your body naturally heal. It has worked for me several times.
  • LJay

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    Apr 03, 2015 3:28 AM GMT
    Folks over 65, and many others also, are advised not to take NSAIDS such as ibuprofen. It can cause bleeding in the intestines and lots of fun thereby. If you have stomach issues, NSAIDS are not your friend.

    Acetaminophen, as most anyone who has tried to use it seriously will tell you, is about as effective as popcorn for pain. Popcorn, however, tastes better.

    Sorry guys, the best way to deal with pain is simply to not hurt. Otherwise you are quickly into the realm of some rather heavy duty stuff.
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    Apr 03, 2015 5:22 PM GMT
    LJay saidFolks over 65, and many others also, are advised not to take NSAIDS such as ibuprofen. It can cause bleeding in the intestines and lots of fun thereby. If you have stomach issues, NSAIDS are not your friend.

    Acetaminophen, as most anyone who has tried to use it seriously will tell you, is about as effective as popcorn for pain. Popcorn, however, tastes better.

    Sorry guys, the best way to deal with pain is simply to not hurt. Otherwise you are quickly into the realm of some rather heavy duty stuff.


    Sometimes heavy duty stuff is indicated. When I had kidney stones, I had about the most potent injection possible.
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    Apr 03, 2015 9:25 PM GMT
    LJay saidFolks over 65, and many others also, are advised not to take NSAIDS such as ibuprofen. It can cause bleeding in the intestines and lots of fun thereby. If you have stomach issues, NSAIDS are not your friend.

    Acetaminophen, as most anyone who has tried to use it seriously will tell you, is about as effective as popcorn for pain. Popcorn, however, tastes better.

    Sorry guys, the best way to deal with pain is simply to not hurt. Otherwise you are quickly into the realm of some rather heavy duty stuff.


    Ibuprofen can also cause heart attacks and strokes if taken regularly. When I broke my wrist a couple of years ago my doctor said I should take Aleve if I needed an NSAID daily. Aspirin is the safest apparently.
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    Apr 03, 2015 11:32 PM GMT
    The upside of being a masochist is I rarely take pain relievers. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Apr 04, 2015 1:17 AM GMT
    I don't trust any of them. In extremely rare cases I will take Ibuprofen, but most of the time I'd rather just deal with the pain. I kind of like pain anyway.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 05, 2015 9:26 PM GMT
    I already take something for thyroid daily along with a cholesterol pill and a anti depressant. I don't need anymore goddamned pills. I don't trust these painkilling medications so I use them very sparingly.