R. Nicholas Burns, Bush’s Iran Expert: "Successful Effort"

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    Apr 03, 2015 2:13 AM GMT
    NYT: R. Nicholas Burns, who was President George W. Bush’s lead negotiator on Iran, said Mr. Obama had embraced and enhanced a strategy his predecessor began. “We’ll have to judge him by the final result, but so far, this has been a successful effort,” he said. “A good deal could prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. A bad deal could end up empowering Iran, a defeat for him and the country.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/03/world/middleeast/a-foreign-policy-gamble-by-obama-at-a-moment-of-truth.html?
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 05, 2015 6:27 PM GMT
    Burns is a smart cookie.

    Also from the article:

    || “Obama always saw the Iranian nuclear threat as a major security challenge that would lead to war if not controlled, and further proliferation if not prevented,” said Gary Samore, a former top arms control adviser to Mr. Obama who is now president of the advocacy group United Against Nuclear Iran.

    || “If we get a nuclear deal, it won’t solve the problem, because the current government in Iran will still be committed to acquiring a nuclear weapons capability,” he added. “But it would give the next president a much stronger basis to manage and delay the threat.”

    So much for those on RJ who pretend this isn't an issue.

    || If Mr. Obama does turn out to be right, Mr. Gerecht added, history will reward him. “If he is wrong, however, and this diplomatic process accelerates the nuclearization of the region, throws jet fuel on the war between the Sunnis and the Shia, and puts America into a much worse strategic position in the Middle East,” he said, “then history is likely to be harsh to Mr. Obama.”

    Burns agrees:

    || “In terms of legacy,” Mr. Burns added, “this is one of the two or three things that will determine it, for good or bad.”
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 05, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
    Immature child, isn't it past your bed time?

    AyaTrolLiar pouncer said nothing much, let alone on topicSo your profoundly insightful analysis is that "Obama may well be right or Obama may well be wrong"?

    Pretty much on a par I would say with the observation that it will help define his legacy...

    I would say Afghanistan and Iraq are two pretty glaring foreign policy "mistakes", as was the idea to go ahead and add more countries to NATO, as recent events have caused even dumb cookies realize.
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 05, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
    LOL. AyaTrolLiar pouncer isn't known for his smarts or insights.
    Burns was Woodsmen's expert, so I'll leave it up to him if he wants to try and explain it in a way that even our resident yet unaccomplished flunkie will understand.
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 05, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
    Evidently the NY Times thought it sufficiently relevant to include it in the story.
    It's up to woodsmen (or anyone else) if they want to try to explain it so that even you might understand.
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 06, 2015 12:06 AM GMT
    Sounds like AyaTrolLiar pouncer knows no one will care to explain it to him and, pathologically, just can't stop himself digging deeper.
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 06, 2015 1:06 AM GMT
    Try harder, maybe you'll get it.

    But that's the thing. AyaTrolLiar pouncer spends his limited mental abilities twisting things, is it any wonder he can't see things right in front of his eyes?
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 06, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    Nah, I'll relish in you - as usual - making a fool of yourself.
    Pathologically and unable to stop....
  • mwolverine

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    Apr 06, 2015 4:30 AM GMT
    Burns is a smart cookie.

    Also from the article:

    || “Obama always saw the Iranian nuclear threat as a major security challenge that would lead to war if not controlled, and further proliferation if not prevented,” said Gary Samore, a former top arms control adviser to Mr. Obama who is now president of the advocacy group United Against Nuclear Iran.

    || “If we get a nuclear deal, it won’t solve the problem, because the current government in Iran will still be committed to acquiring a nuclear weapons capability,” he added. “But it would give the next president a much stronger basis to manage and delay the threat.”

    So much for those on RJ who pretend this isn't an issue.

    || If Mr. Obama does turn out to be right, Mr. Gerecht added, history will reward him. “If he is wrong, however, and this diplomatic process accelerates the nuclearization of the region, throws jet fuel on the war between the Sunnis and the Shia, and puts America into a much worse strategic position in the Middle East,” he said, “then history is likely to be harsh to Mr. Obama.”

    Burns agrees:

    || “In terms of legacy,” Mr. Burns added, “this is one of the two or three things that will determine it, for good or bad.”