Prepping for summer competition

  • ItfxJosh

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    Apr 03, 2015 7:51 PM GMT
    Who else competes in any NPC competition? May 23rd I'm making it to boston for the Jay Cutler Classics. On my way there, tryin to cut just a little more.
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    Apr 04, 2015 1:26 AM GMT
    I'm going to start prepping for a fall show, either the NPC San Francisco or the Sacramento, in June. You look great, bud!
  • ItfxJosh

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    Apr 05, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    Hey thanx man you too. Takes a shit ton of work that's for sure. Nervous af but my heads in the game
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    Apr 05, 2015 5:59 AM GMT
    Not this year. I need 30 more pounds. Next year. All mine.

  • Apr 05, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
    Posts your photos.
  • ItfxJosh

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    Apr 05, 2015 9:10 PM GMT
    Post my photos of what?
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    Apr 06, 2015 5:45 AM GMT
    Itfxmalik saidPost my photos of what?

    He wants more pics of you. icon_biggrin.gif
  • ItfxJosh

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    Apr 06, 2015 6:57 AM GMT
    Ah well ur welcome to look at my profile. i dont see the option to posy a picture here
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    Apr 08, 2015 2:03 AM GMT
    ItfxJosh saidAh well ur welcome to look at my profile. i dont see the option to posy a picture here

    Yeah, don't bother. I think he wants pics to "admire" you with. icon_biggrin.gif
  • ItfxJosh

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    Apr 08, 2015 7:08 AM GMT
    Ahhhh haha, i see XD
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    Apr 16, 2015 4:52 AM GMT
    are you guys doing physique? I would love to do a masters someday but I'm thinking I want to see if I can get down to 8% on my own first, and at that point hire a coach. I've got a bunch of excess skin though around my stomach so I don't think I would likely ever compete, but the goal will get me going in that direction.
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    Apr 27, 2015 1:04 AM GMT
    GymNewbie saidare you guys doing physique? I would love to do a masters someday but I'm thinking I want to see if I can get down to 8% on my own first, and at that point hire a coach. I've got a bunch of excess skin though around my stomach so I don't think I would likely ever compete, but the goal will get me going in that direction.


    No, I'm doing bodybuilding. I work my legs too hard to want to do physique. icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 28, 2015 1:23 AM GMT
    What's "physique?"

    I thought there was only "bodybuilding" and "fitness" (the latter being bodybuilders without big legs, posing in shorts, maybe also having pageant-like costumes, categories and routines).

  • Apr 28, 2015 6:17 AM GMT
    I believe the spectrum includes physique in between bodybuilding and fitness divisions?
  • ItfxJosh

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    May 03, 2015 4:01 AM GMT
    Well the thing with physique is more along the line of how aesthetic your body is. Like how the mass of your arms goes with the mass of your legs and abdomen including how toned you are; so like, your getting graded on how "even" you look so to speak. In some ways it's a little more difficult than just bodybuilding because you have to kinda morph everything to look as even and perfect as u can get it
  • BuffGeezer

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    May 03, 2015 3:55 PM GMT
    To clarify, there is no Fitness in men's competition. That's a category for women. I liken it to women's bodybuilding lite.

    Aesthetics definitely are a factor in men's physique. At a show I watched yesterday, this one guy actually had too much muscle and wasn't among those in 2nd round comparisons or "call backs." (Usually call backs are between those vying for the top five spots, unless the #1 guy is so clear, then its for the remaining spots. You never know the final results until the evening show which I rarely attend. They run so late and are much more expensive.)

    Curiously the judging standards for physique seem to be evolving. Higher placing guys now must have more definition, bigger shoulders and wider-fuller backs than were expected in the past. They still can't be shredded like bodybuilders. Absolutely essential for physique guys is a narrow, etched waist. At this point, board shorts conceal quads and hams, so physique guys don't really need big legs. That's why bodybuilders don't respect them. The judges don't seem to really care whether the top placers have the best calves either.

    Most guys I speak with view physique as entry-level bodybuilding. They say "I'm not big enough yet." or "I don't want to starve myself the way bodybuilders do." Both points are true, but it's wrong to consider Physique as "easy." I know any number of physique guys who work their asses off. Their goals simply are different and I respect them for their choice.
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    May 04, 2015 4:55 AM GMT
    I concur.

    Physique guys tend to be narrow waisted and more ectomorphic, taking a lot less gear, and, almost always, but, not always, ho hum in the legs to non-existent.

    I agree on the lines with the broad shoulders and narrow waist. E.g. Jeff Seid is popular, but, I don't think it will hold. He's simply not quite big enough. I could be wrong, but, I think the look is slowing changing in physique. In bodybuilding...MASS, presentation, being dry, full...all count...and you gotta' have WHEELS.

    I know many people who do both kinds of shows.

    Here's my advice around competing:
    1. Listen to your body. It's great to have a prep coach, but...you have to immerse yourself both in knowledge and the "feel" of doing it right.

    2. Give yourself plenty of time. 16 weeks at a MINIMUM. I like 20 to 24. Coast into the show.

    3. Don't over diet. Don't be afraid to cheat. If your body is craving...fucking eat. If you're doing it right, you'll be tired, but, not all that hungry, and any cravings should be minimal.

    4. Do a number of dry runs so you understood loading / deloading / drying out / filling out.

    5. Pose.

    6. Stretch.

    7. Keep the reps up, and the cadence high. Intensity is everything. Train pretty much all the time, unless you get exhausted, then...rest. You'll be fine.

    8. Let yourself enjoy the journey.

    9. Understand, it's not always about the $25 trophy, but, setting a goal, and walking into, through, above, and beyond our challenges. It's something many folks don't understand: hard things are hard. Period. Most things worth doing can be hard.

    10. Don't create famine syndrome by completely killing your carbs. You may need to cycle carbs day to day. I bring my calories UP as I increase my activity level.

    Just 9 months after having my chest sawed in 1/2 I was contest ready. Was it hard? Yep. Did it hurt? You bet? Was it worth it? Absolutely.

    Compete for the journey. Compete to know you did your best. Compete for the insight. Compete for the joy of looking in the mirror and saying, "Look what I've done to myself!"

    It's a ride!!!
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    May 07, 2015 5:14 PM GMT
    ItfxJosh saidWell the thing with physique is more along the line of how aesthetic your body is. Like how the mass of your arms goes with the mass of your legs and abdomen including how toned you are; so like, your getting graded on how "even" you look so to speak. In some ways it's a little more difficult than just bodybuilding because you have to kinda morph everything to look as even and perfect as u can get it


    I would argue that bodybuilding is judged on the same criteria. It's just a different (bigger) look. The Men's Physique look is meant to be more approachable and attainable by the average man. It has a broader appeal, which is why the guys on magazine covers usually look more like Physique dudes than bodybuilders. Having a symmetrical and balanced physique that is aesthetically pleasing is the whole idea in both divisions. I would also posit that bodybuilding is more difficult because you have to attain the same kind of perfection as you mention for Physique, but you've got no board shorts to hide behind and you're forced to do poses that expose all your weaknesses.
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    May 09, 2015 4:16 PM GMT
    I had this dream that at 230lbs I could compete (I'm 6'2), but apparently I'll need more, or maybe the entry criteria in US is different from Canada. Maik Wiedenbach is my role model for 6'2 physique and he competes in US at 230lbs so maybe I have a chance.

    I'm just worried about how long will I have to keep upping my calories since I can barely sustain 200lbs at 6000Kcal. At that point I'll be 90lbs above my sedentary weight.

    Well... check me again in 3 years. icon_lol.gif
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    May 10, 2015 2:19 PM GMT
    not sure what you guys think around steroid use...in Cape Town, a LOT of the guys are doing roids, especially in comps...