"Prayers for Bobby"

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    Jan 24, 2009 7:48 PM GMT
    I think the premier of the movie "Prayers for Bobby" is tonight at 9:00 PM Eastern on Lifetime Network. Is anyone else planning to watch it?
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    Jan 24, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
    I would, but made-for-TV movies tend to make me nauseous.

    BTW: JustOut has the story:
    http://www.justout.com/feature_story.aspx?id=39
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    Jan 24, 2009 9:30 PM GMT
    i wish i was able to watch it, my dorms don't get lifetime
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    Jan 24, 2009 11:50 PM GMT
    i'm going to TiVo it
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    Jan 25, 2009 12:04 AM GMT
    ill have to look up and see what channel the lifetime channel is but i think im gonna watch it tonight.

    thanks for the heads up rigsby.
    i will give my amazing review of it later.
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    Jan 25, 2009 12:05 AM GMT
    I got outvoted 1 to 1 (we all know whose vote really counts, and it's not mine), so I'm going to TiVo it, too.
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    Jan 25, 2009 12:29 AM GMT
    If I had Lifetime I would. Cursed basic cable.
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    Jan 25, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    I can't wait... 1 more hour.


    Though I am nervous that it will upset me.. despite the fact I know it ends the way it does.

    I'm nervous cause there are some scary parallels to my life... and too many "what if my life was like that?" Oh well


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    Jan 25, 2009 4:11 AM GMT
    It was a very good movie. I definitely teared up a bit.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:16 AM GMT
    I don;t understand why she is being celebrated. If she had been a decent woman in the first place, her son wouldn't have hated himself and committed suicide. Like her sins have been magically wiped away.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:25 AM GMT
    "i read that homosexuals have sex in public bathrooms and recruit children"

    it wouldnt sting so much if it weren't true.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:27 AM GMT
    tivo'd here, will watch it when I'm alone because I don't usually do well with these kind of movies...sniff, sniff.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:41 AM GMT
    Wow. I can't stop crying.

    That movie... uhh it brought back memories I haven't felt in awhile

    The religious mother... her views used to be expressed in my self-concisince. I believed for so long that I was going to Hell. I believed I was a pervert.

    Bobby's view were also expressed in my mind. The only way to shut out the voices ands feelings... the only way to be at peace... is to kill myself.

    I had forgotten how inviting suicide had been to me several years ago.

    Suicide was the answer for me... but I never had the guts--I came very close a few times.

    Instead of dying, I lost six years of my life in alimbo inactive state.

    I 'm sure some of you are sick of my story... I don't mean to call on pity from others. I alsways hated pity parties.

    I'm just so confused right now... and can't see well cause I'm still crying lol
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:41 AM GMT
    I thought Prayers for Bobby was great. As a Christian man who grew up studying the Bible, attending a Conservative Christian college, and being told over and over that "queers should be lined up and shot" (quote from the movie), this movie really hit home with me. I am now 50 years old and just this week I "came out" to my family. Even though I am older I still was concerned about my family's approval.

    Knowing that Prayers for Bobby was based on a true story only made it all that much better.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:44 AM GMT
    blinktwice4y said"i read that homosexuals have sex in public bathrooms and recruit children"

    it wouldnt sting so much if it weren't true.
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    How can you recruit kids? do you mean indocterinate them into a certain view of tolerance? Or do you mean gays recruit kids to BE gay?
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:46 AM GMT
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    TheIStrat saidI don;t understand why she is being celebrated. If she had been a decent woman in the first place, her son wouldn't have hated himself and committed suicide. Like her sins have been magically wiped away.


    Oh come on now.... this is not about wiping away sins... it's about the human condition and how the bible has mislead so many people into feeling one way or another about themselves. This woman admitted that she not only fucked up.. but lost a child in the process. She's already paid the ultimate price.


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    The Bible has NEVER mislead anyone; only man's interpretation of the Bible has done that. The church has failed 99% in reaching out to the GLBT people. Instead of condemning us, the church should (and must become) a safe-haven for everyone. Peace to all.

    And to that I say, AMEN (something else from the movie).

    P.S. If any guys are sentimental, like me, you best keep a kleenex handy during this movie.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:49 AM GMT
    TheIStrat saidI don;t understand why she is being celebrated. If she had been a decent woman in the first place, her son wouldn't have hated himself and committed suicide. Like her sins have been magically wiped away.


    I'd welcome anyone who is now tolerant when they were once intolerant. THEY are even more valuable than 1,000 gays marching in a pride parade. The mother's speech at the end was much more influential than a gay's speech ever could be.

    I could have said the same thing... and would not have gotten the same response.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:51 AM GMT
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    P.S. If any guys are sentimental, like me, you best keep a kleenex handy during this movie.


    A Kleenex? Meaing ONE? OMG I went through a lot more than one!

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    Jan 25, 2009 4:53 AM GMT
    I just don't understand the appeal. I know what it was like to be this kid. I grew up in catholic and evangelical circles. Horrible things were said about gays. He killed himself at age 20, which was the exact age that i came within a hairsbreath of doing so. She didn't pay the ultimate price for her ignorance and bigotry. HE did. It just makes me mad. REALLY mad. That he had to go through it and that I had to also, and that I escaped emotionally by the skin of my teeth over it. And just like him i still sometimes cry myself to sleep over the messages I received as a teenager from my religion. Maybe this movie will do some good, but the fact that this woman is seen as a hero just gets under my skin. Maybe I am just being bitter.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:55 AM GMT
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    blinktwice4y said"i read that homosexuals have sex in public bathrooms and recruit children"

    it wouldnt sting so much if it weren't true.
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    How can you recruit kids? do you mean indoctrinate them into a certain view of tolerance? Or do you mean gays recruit kids to BE gay?


    I was saying that gays recruit kids to be gay yes. It was a quote from the movie you just watched.
    I was joking. It was a joke.
    I don't have sex with men in bathrooms either in case you were interested.
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    Jan 25, 2009 4:55 AM GMT


    cjc,

    We'll never be sick of your story.


    c'm'ere.....HUG
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    Jan 25, 2009 5:03 AM GMT
    TheIStrat saidI just don't understand the appeal. I know what it was like to be this kid. I grew up in catholic and evangelical circles. Horrible things were said about gays. He killed himself at age 20, which was the exact age that i came within a hairsbreath of doing so. She didn't pay the ultimate price for her ignorance and bigotry. HE did. It just makes me mad. REALLY mad. That he had to go through it and that I had to also, and that I escaped emotionally by the skin of my teeth over it. And just like him i still sometimes cry myself to sleep over the messages I received as a teenager from my religion. Maybe this movie will do some good, but the fact that this woman is seen as a hero just gets under my skin. Maybe I am just being bitter.


    But realize, there is a difference between the mother and your family (I assume anyways). She turned her views around and has helped a lot with gay rights. Think about how remarkable that is... in this day in age. She was also irrogant. That is something I can easily forgive.

    There are people out there who are taught to believe that everything we say comes from the devil. If you were brought up in a religious homophobic family but weren't gay, do you think you would be any different from your family? Most kids get their values from their parents... and then they can later redefine them. But some don't change thier values all differently from their parents.

    If the mother was brought up to think a certain way... how can we blame her solely for what she did? Once her views were questioned and things didn't line up... then she changed. But sadly that took the death of her son.

    not all mothers are like Judy Shepard. Some people need huge wake up calls. I'd be interested in how she would defend herself if you said thae same thing to her face. She probably wouldn't defend herself though... just tell you her side.
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    Jan 25, 2009 5:04 AM GMT
    blinktwice4y said
    cjcscuba1984 said
    blinktwice4y said"i read that homosexuals have sex in public bathrooms and recruit children"

    it wouldnt sting so much if it weren't true.
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    How can you recruit kids? do you mean indoctrinate them into a certain view of tolerance? Or do you mean gays recruit kids to BE gay?


    I was saying that gays recruit kids to be gay yes. It was a quote from the movie you just watched.
    I was joking. It was a joke.
    I don't have sex with men in bathrooms either in case you were interested.


    Well damn... notice how I didn't challenge your other point... I was hoping we could meet up someday at an airport bathroom... except don't do the Larry Craig thing lol
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    Jan 25, 2009 5:10 AM GMT
    oh...
    in that case.
    JFK.
    Jet blue terminal.
    The bathroom by gate 17.
    3pm.
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    Jan 25, 2009 5:16 AM GMT
    TheIStrat saidMaybe this movie will do some good, but the fact that this woman is seen as a hero just gets under my skin. Maybe I am just being bitter.


    Even though Bobby has been gone for a quarter-century, Mary continues to campaign for public school counseling programs that are supportive of gay students. The issue hit close to home again recently when her 17-year-old granddaughter came out to the family as they previewed Prayers for Bobby.

    “She said, ‘Was Grandma really like that?’ She could never imagine that I could’ve been that way,” Mary says. “I told her, ‘I kind of got a second chance to get things right.’ ”

    http://www.justout.com/feature_story.aspx?id=39