On Gay Cruise, Everybody Knows Your Name

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    Apr 11, 2015 4:42 AM GMT
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    NYT: Said Rich Campbell, the president and chief executive of Atlantis Events: "There is that great phantom misperception that it’s a giant 24-hour boat of guys who are 26 years old, that it’s all one dynamic,” he said. “You’re absolutely going to see guys in their 60s, 70s, 80s, and you’re also going to see guys in their mid-20s.”

    The average age of the almost 2,000 people on my cruise, Mr. Campbell said, was around 40, and the wide range of ages and body types was indeed apparent as soon as we boarded, when I happily realized I would not have to hold my breath nonstop to keep my abs tightened for over a week.

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    Apr 11, 2015 5:39 AM GMT
    There is that great phantom misperception that it’s a giant 24-hour boat of guys who are 26 years old, that it’s all one dynamic,”

    Why would anyone think that a typical 26 year old could afford one of these cruises? They're double, almost triple the price of a mainstream (straight) cruise.
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    Apr 11, 2015 4:37 PM GMT
    Too many queens in one place for me.
  • Bunjamon

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    Apr 11, 2015 6:28 PM GMT
    I've just never thought of the idea of a cruise as being all that appealing, period. Except maybe on a small boat in Alaska or Norway or parts of the Mediterranean.
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    Apr 11, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    And they're always glad you came...
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    Apr 11, 2015 11:51 PM GMT
    *Giggles*
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    Apr 12, 2015 1:59 AM GMT
    Bunjamon saidI've just never thought of the idea of a cruise as being all that appealing, period. Except maybe on a small boat in Alaska or Norway or parts of the Mediterranean.

    I was a bit dubious myself, when I took my first mega-ship cruise. Currently the second largest passenger vessel in the world, until about 5 years ago it WAS the largest.

    But I approached it as a floating resort. And enjoyed all the amenities and entertainment (including an ice skating show). It wasn't gay, but we booked with a local gay group of 220 others, most of whom we knew.

    Even among over 3000 passengers, we always saw guys & gals we knew everywhere on the ship. And we all sat together for supper, had exclusive cocktail hours arranged and other private functions.

    Yet my husband & I also enjoyed meeting the many straight couples, who all seemed friendly & interested to learn about us. We enjoyed the opportunity to act as gay "ambassadors" to people who claimed they'd never met an out gay couple before.

    The food was great, the service impeccable, the sailing smooth & event-free. So we enjoyed it entirely. Health problems have kept us both from doing it again, but we'll jump at the first chance we get again.
  • Jeepguy2

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    Apr 12, 2015 9:09 AM GMT
    I would rather just go on a regular cruise and go to the Friends of Dorothy (FOD) meetings.

    Every evening at 5 p.m., the FODs meet in the Commodore Lounge on the Queen Mary 2.

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    Apr 12, 2015 1:45 PM GMT
    the mathematical permutations give me a headache. i'd be so intimidated in the crowd it's not even funny.
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    Apr 12, 2015 2:19 PM GMT
    HEBREWMAN saidthe mathematical permutations give me a headache. i'd be so intimidated in the crowd it's not even funny.

    Well, that scene in the OP pic would intimidate me, too. All the pleasure of being in a packed subway or elevator.

    On the last cruise we took, that I described above, that monster ship was so huge (165,000 tons) that you wondered where the thousands of passengers were at times. Nothing was really ever crowded.

    Even at scheduled meal times the ship's ability to smoothly accommodate & feed thousands of people without delays was very impressive. I wish we had that crew when I was in the US Army! LOL!

    And a thing I was dreading, the boarding process and then disembarking that many people at once through US customs, went amazingly fast & efficient. Actually quicker than any commercial airline flights I've taken in recent years. I also think Port Everglades in Fort Lauderdale is optimized to handle those numbers, they've really got it down to a science, from what I could judge.

    So while I wouldn't be a fan of the mob scenes on Atlantis or RSVP cruises pictured in the OP, it isn't all like that. Certainly not all the time, nor must you take part. You can always find quiet places on the ship.

    And what we did at a port call was go ashore, quickly blitzed what we had wanted to see, took some pics & videos, bought our souvenirs. Then we came back onboard early, and had the whole nearly-empty ship almost to ourselves.

    Because we actually liked the ship, happy to return, a floating palace. We were there to relax and do little more than the lazy resort experience, not some hard-core "commando" touristing at ports of call. To each his own.
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    Apr 12, 2015 2:41 PM GMT
    I have multiple friends who have gone on the Atlantis gay cruises multiple times and loved it.
    Its on my list. But damn if its not pricy
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    Apr 12, 2015 2:57 PM GMT
    SamSellers saidI have multiple friends who have gone on the Atlantis gay cruises multiple times and loved it.
    Its on my list. But damn if its not pricy

    I've done RSVP but not Atlantis. Lots of friends do, a couple at least every year, out of Port Everglades.

    The local gay clubs really play to it, specially decorating their places, the staff dressing in sailor themes. Passengers get quite a warm welcome.

    Because many guys arrive a day or so early, from all around North America, some even from overseas. And then they may stay for days afterwards following the cruise, to enjoy the South Florida/Miami Beach area, perhaps the Keys. Which to some are as exotic & foreign as anyplace they may visit in the Caribbean.
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    Apr 12, 2015 3:14 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said

    Because many guys arrive a day or so early, from all around North America, some even from overseas. And then they may stay for days afterwards following the cruise, to enjoy the South Florida/Miami Beach area, perhaps the Keys. Which to some are as exotic & foreign as anyplace they may visit in the Caribbean.


    True. If they travel to Key West, they might encounter this exotic species:

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    Proving what a bitter old queen you are. Whereas THIS old queen offers useful advice to guys coming to South Florida, including the Keys.

    Info about sunset cruises, restaurant suggestions, places to stay. And maybe with a discount when I can swing them. Direct information with links & phone numbers, contact names when I have them.

    Whereas you do NOTHING for anyone here, last time I checked. Except to criticize guys like me, and obsessively bitch & moan with lies about Obama & Hillary daily.

    It must suck to be you. icon_sad.gif
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    Apr 12, 2015 5:16 PM GMT
    We went on a Hawaii cruise. It was a bit of an adventure!
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    Apr 13, 2015 1:27 AM GMT
    I've been on Atlantis a couple of times. The thing to know is the cruise is what you make it. If you want a floating circuit party, you can have it. If you want peace and quiet to read that new novel, you can have it. If you want to live at the bars, you can; if you want to have friends over to your stateroom for low-key socializing, you can.

    Whatever you choose to do, there's an empowerment that comes with being surrounded almost wholly by members of the tribe.
    You never have to be the "gay ambassador";
    or explain yourself to others;
    or be afraid to hold hands;
    or show affection;
    or be morally judged;
    or look over your shoulder to assess your safety.

    Give it a try.
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    Apr 13, 2015 1:45 AM GMT
    43rueperronet said
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    Well isn't that revealing! I haven't posted that pic here in about 6 or 7 years. Without the caption added, of course, which naturally isn't my own.

    What a sick, perverted person keeps all my pics in his library all these years. That's a very disturbed mind who does that. And don't claim you did a search, because you can't find specific pics that old, and not if you don't know what you're looking for.

    BTW, that was taken Jan 28, 2007, in Miami Beach. On Lincoln Road, also known as Lincoln Mall on that stretch where it's pedestrian-only, with outdoor dining, as you see. It also was used for the movie The Birdcage when "Albert" goes out shopping for groceries.
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:10 AM GMT
    43rueperronet saidanother example-

    I googled deco+realjock+martini and found a few photos---

    Here's another photo of the alcoholic drinking--

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    I forget what that was called, not a martini, some fancy name I hadn't heard before. We all had them, to toast the polo players who came over. Not terribly strong.

    And that doesn't make me an alcoholic, no more than my friends are all alcoholics. It makes me an adult. And a responsible one, since I nurse a drink for an hour, while other guys I know are knocking them down.

    And funny, I innocently post these pics myself. Because I never imagined that sickos like you would make issues of them. I feel no guilt about doing nothing wrong. It's just psychos like you who misrepresent & exaggerate these pics, and what I say in fun.

    I rather think it's guys like YOU who have the real problems with alcohol, that you can't conceive of a guy who has complete control of himself (I'm too obsessive not to), and so confident that I can make fun about things like drinking. And lots of other personal things, too.

    It's only the insecure guys, and the guilty guys, who can't talk about certain subjects. In general, when a guy talks about stuff like this, it's because he's comfortable & confident about himself. Something a mess like you could never do. icon_razz.gif
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    Apr 13, 2015 2:55 PM GMT
    Hey Art, I was a person of "online bullying" a few yrs back on cruise critic during a roll call prior to a cruise I had booked. It got very active up to the last couple months of the cruise and it must of been something I sayed that "offended" a couple people and next thing I know im being called every name in the book and getting threats to the point that I had to cancel my cruise on that ship and book another on differnt ship the for the same week which cost me another 900.00 just to avoid those assholes. BTW. I have the pic of the 3 assholes that started that mess... A person was able to get a pic for me that was trying to cover for me during that roll call.

    Bottom line, I dont do "roll calls" anymore for cruises, and 2 I IGNORE people that post crap about me online.. Dont stir the pot.. Ignore there posts and it will stop over time...
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:11 PM GMT
    @ArtDeco

    I agree with ^^^ above. Everyone can see from this thread that SouthBeach is using alias accounts to "Create" a conservation to try to besmirch you. And it isn't working. If holding a martini in your hand is "evidence" of alcoholism, then everyone here is an alcoholic. Nonsense.

    It really just makes them look like what they are: bitter and jealous. On another thread they're trying to claim my boyfriend doesn't exist, and is "too tall" to be in the Air Force. You know what they say, if they're not talking about you, you're not doing it right icon_cool.gif
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    Apr 13, 2015 5:18 PM GMT
    43rueperronet saidanother example-

    I googled deco+realjock+martini and found a few photos---


    Here's another photo of the alcoholic drinking--



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    You're holding a drink. You must be an alcoholic.
    You played Go Fish when you were a kid. You're a compulsive gambler.
    You ate a piece of chocolate cake. You're obese.
    You passed on the chocolate cake. You have an eating disorder.

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    Apr 13, 2015 8:14 PM GMT
    Hopefully, the abusive episode against Art is over. Should we talk gay cruise?
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    Apr 13, 2015 8:46 PM GMT
    sportbiker said
    Whatever you choose to do, there's an empowerment that comes with being surrounded almost wholly by members of the tribe.
    You never have to be the "gay ambassador";
    or explain yourself to others;
    or be afraid to hold hands;
    or show affection;
    or be morally judged;
    or look over your shoulder to assess your safety.

    Give it a try.

    You don't need to go to a gay cruise to experience those things. Just visit some big gay city. I have done those things in quite many gay friendly cities.
    What bothers me most about gay cruises is the exorbitant price they charge, in comparison to a regular cruise.
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    Apr 14, 2015 12:38 AM GMT
    CLTMike46 saidAnd they're always glad you came...


    Well played man. lolol.
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    Apr 14, 2015 2:19 AM GMT
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREYou don't need to go to a gay cruise to experience those things. Just visit some big gay city. I have done those things in quite many gay friendly cities.
    What bothers me most about gay cruises is the exorbitant price they charge, in comparison to a regular cruise.


    Even here in California, I still hear the occasional report of gay bashings and other hate crimes in the "big gay cities" of WeHo and San Francisco. When I walk back to my car late at night (early in the morning?), I have all my "situational awareness" antennae fully extended and operational, because you just never know what could happen. And did: about 20 years ago I was bashed in the "big gay city" of Downtown Long Beach, walking from a movie theater (host of a gay film festival) to my car, a distance of not more than a block or two.

    On a gay cruise, you're in a separate universe where you can let your guard down and let your freak flag fly without worrying about your safety. Yeah, it costs more than a standard Princess cruise. And a BMW costs more than a Hyundai. Should everyone drive Hyundai because of the exorbitant price BMW charges, in comparison to a regular Hyundai?
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    Apr 14, 2015 3:44 AM GMT
    I used to work on cruise ships, and RSVP catered one cruise. It was without a doubt the worst week long cruise I've ever had work. At one point I had a passenger come up to me ask how big my dick was, I had passengers walk up to me and grill me and ask if I was gay. I pretended I wasn't so they would leave me alone. I have never been embarrassed being gay, until that moment. The behaviour of the men onboard were atrocious, and downright rude. I will never willing spend money and time after witnessing that.