Reasons you are a democrat or republican or what aspects of each party do you take into consideration while voting?

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    Apr 12, 2015 10:09 PM GMT

    Some Reasons I am a Democrat:

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    I want a president who has lived life. I'd take Hilary's wrinkles over Sarah Palin's fake reality television botoxed face any day.

    I'd argue FDR could have been a very different president if he didn't suffer from polio. FDR was in an extremely privileged society growing up; doctors and lawyers were not worthy of being in their circle. I truly believe he and Eleanor loved the American people, and their own struggles created empathy towards humanity.

    When FDR became a democrat it put into effect the motion that he would do what was best for the American people. Yes, he made some mistakes --no human is perfect-- internment camps come to mind.

    STILL unlike stingy self absorbed backwards thinking republicans -- FDR was a great president due to the fact he was a democrat!


    Republicans don't care about people -- they care about themselves. Yes, in order for a society to work you need have self-sufficiency and responsibility. BUT for republicans to think that realities such as STDs, poverty, unplanned pregnancies, single parents (often unplanned deaths or due to domestic violence) etc. aren't a reality is beyond me. Taxes are inevitable. A democrat would choose to put that money towards better educating our future children and creating a healthier, thus stronger society. If George Bush had it his way he would've tried to privatize all schools -- my cousin is actually a republican and she worked her way from a teacher; to a principal; to overseeing public schools in the city. She voted for Bush, but ended up not caring for Bush. Quite frankly my cousin doesn't realize how fortunate she was to have a mother who looked after her son (due to an unplanned pregnancy) while she continued to get her degree at Brown.

    Democrats have hearts for humanity. Republican's only have hearts for their immediate family and live in an unrealistic bubble when it comes to society as a whole. What George Bush's mother was recorded saying about Katrina victims is still unforgivable. Both the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal covered what she said.


    At 6:06 AM in the WSJ:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB112613236197134514

    NYT Link:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/national/nationalspecial/07barbara.html?_r=0

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  • wesv

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    Apr 12, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
    I just love that poster! Something for everyone to understand.

    I'm registered as a democrat, but I still hold some conservative views. I chose that party because I see that they are generally in favor of helping those who are oppressed (i.e. lower class, gays, etc.)
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    Apr 12, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    Republicans are by and large conservatives. The word conservative comes from the idea that they're conserving "traditional" or old values. In other words, they're against change.

    As a friend once quiped, "The worst Democrat is always better than the best Republican."
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    Apr 12, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
    pazzy saiddon't claim any party. just vote for the person that i see is fit but it's not like my vote matters anyway. politics is nothing but bullshit. it's not like they don't chose whoever's going to win anyway and whatever is going to happen is going to happen.


    If enough people thought with that mentality it certainly could make a difference in who has the possibility of winning.
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    Apr 13, 2015 12:15 AM GMT
    pazzy said
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    pazzy saiddon't claim any party. just vote for the person that i see is fit but it's not like my vote matters anyway. politics is nothing but bullshit. it's not like they don't chose whoever's going to win anyway and whatever is going to happen is going to happen.


    If enough people thought with that mentality it certainly could make a difference in who has the possibility of winning.


    it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. vote or not. the people don't get to decide who gets into office. the government does. then again, would you trust the general public to select it's leaders when the general public for the most part has an ass backwards mentality? the public can't be trusted on issues as it is. if it wasn't for the supreme court or the government, us gay people wouldn't be able to have sex without getting locked up. the general public would be perfectly fine with that too.


    I think it's really sad to live with that kind of outlook on life -- gosh that must be a depressing mentality.
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    Apr 13, 2015 12:21 AM GMT
    I have some Conservative views but I could NEVER vote Republican for moral reasons. The Republican party as a whole is racist (and I'm not throwing the race card here without reason. They are TRULY racist), homophobic, greedy, selfish and in short will put money before people each and every time.

  • metta

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    Apr 13, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
    I actually started out as a Republican. I grew up with parents that were Republican in a city that is primarily Republican. When I went to register to vote, there was a GOP office in the same building as one of my dad's offices. My dad walked me in to register and the Republican box was already checked for me. lol.

    Obviously, I'm not a Republican any more. My father past away when I was 18 and my mom is not allowed to vote any more due to her dementia. They primarily voted for Republicans for lower taxes. And they didn't always vote for Republicans. They never supported the way today's Republicans get so involved in the other peoples personal lives. My family is very diverse and they would never support the stuff coming out of many of the Republicans today. They would have been considered Sagebrush Republicans (fiscally conservative, socially liberal). You don't really hear that term used anymore though.

    I have never been a registered Democrat but I do frequently vote for them. So far, I have voted for more democrats than I have republicans. I consider myself progressive while also supporting minimizing waste.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 13, 2015 12:25 AM GMT
    Radd saidI have some Conservative views but I could NEVER vote Republican for moral reason. The Republican party as a whole is racist (and I'm not throwing the race card here without reason. They are TRULY racist), homophobic, greedy, selfish and in short will put money before people each and every time.

    Well the democrats are no damned better. They are also out only for their self aggrandizement in as much the same way as the republicans. Both major parties are no damned good.
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    Apr 13, 2015 12:43 AM GMT
    As an out gay man, I would never support a party that questions my worthiness as a human being and the dignity of my life. I am a legal immigrant and have been a citizen for over 30 years. Love this country for it afforded me opportunities to start with just a t-shirt and a pair of jeans to a proud 5-percenter.

    Yes, I hate paying a third of my income to taxes but I love the civilization that it creates.

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    Apr 13, 2015 2:43 AM GMT
    Pazzyreality is depressing. can't run away from it. it's not even 50 years since the supreme court decided that it was illegal for states to outlaw interracial marriages. a majority of the american public was AGAINST it at the time when the supreme court made it's decision. imagine if it were up to the public to vote on that. the general public cannot be trusted especially when it comes to the lives of other people besides their own. 50 years is not a long time at all. it's fairly recent. gay people getting their civil rights is actually a brand new concept yet folks are getting a bit too comfortable thinking that it's always been that way.


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    Captain America* is a democrat and YOU should be too! Let's mention Chris Evan's Uncle is a democratic U.S. Congressman, Mike Capuano. Chris Evans is also a democrat.

    What you fail to see is if everyone had your mentality we wouldn't be where we are today. Honestly think about the people who have offered you kindness or touched your heart -- would they have been able to leave that heart print if they viewed life through the dreary filter you seem to view life through (for as long as I've been on here). Would Martin Luther King Jr. even bother to dream, if he viewed life as futile? Life will NEVER be perfect and hatred will always exist, but that doesn't mean the world isn't progressing scientifically and embracing humanity. The USA has created conditions that allows entrepreneurs to best utilize their unique set of abilities. From Elton John to Steve Job's imagination becoming a real product.

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    Let's note Steve Jobs was the CEO of Apple Inc. and a board member of The Walt Disney Corporation (YAY Disney); even-though he owned a multi-billion dollar company he was still a democrat and supported Obama.

    Now Pazzy we've been down this road a very long time ago. Happiness, to an extent, is a choice. If that means seeing a doctor or therapist for medication or cognitive/behavior modification skills -- then that is what you need to do; unless you like thinking that way.

    I already told you this a long time ago, but it's worth mentioning again:

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    Only you can take the necessary actions to be what a lot of people consider success -- healthy, happy, and peace of mind. If you want to keep justifying the reasons the world is so dreary and bleak (tout yourself as being a realist) have fun with that. Seriously, get some help -- life doesn't have to be so miserable or bleak, and no one is going to care more about your wellbeing other than yourself man.

    Also I'd like to mention if they make a new Steve Job's movie (I didn't see the first one yet) --before the ending credits start-- they should have real video footage, from an Apple store! An Apple location who has hired legally blind employees who utilize Apple's technology to serve customers effectively (this exists it was in a Forbes article**). I know Apple has a diverse group of employees, and they treat their employees very well.

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    http://historicallyaccuratesteve.tumblr.com/post/77834460957/sorry-if-this-sounds-rude-but-wouldnt-steves

    http://threatquality.com/2010/02/16/dear-right-wing-conservatives-who-are-outraged-by-captain-america/

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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/worldviews/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-democratic-legacy/

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  • Svnw688

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    Apr 13, 2015 2:53 AM GMT
    I'm a Democrat because I'm nice, care for others, and believe in equality.

    I'm not a Republican because I'm not a whiny, evil witch, hell bent on blaming poor and underprivileged people for their station in life.
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:05 AM GMT
    metta8 saidI actually started out as a Republican. I grew up with parents that were Republican in a city that is primarily Republican. When I went to register to vote, there was a GOP office in the same building as one of my dad's offices. My dad walked me in to register and the Republican box was already checked for me. lol.




    The man who posts links to all of those articles finally speaks, just kidding ^_^

    When it comes to politics or traditions, I think a lot of people follow in their parents foot steps.

    For better or worst I actually support people's rights to bear arms -- I'd like to think I came to this on my own conclusion, but I know how my grandfather liked to hunt. It's kind of a question that's not even "allowed to" be brought up with most family members.

    Being in a busy city, I don't think I'll ever need a gun. Now if I was living on a small farm with just my hypothetical husband/wife and children -- I would want a way to protect my family. It's not like a police station would be nearby.

    I mean we all have things we are used to -- like lasagna at Christmas time just feels right. BUT I realize even though it may feel right for me, it does not mean it is right for everyone.




    Obviously, I'm not a Republican any more. My father past away when I was 18 and my mom is not allowed to vote any more due to her dementia. They primarily voted for Republicans for lower taxes. And they didn't always vote for Republicans. They never supported the way today's Republicans get so involved in the other peoples personal lives. My family is very diverse and they would never support the stuff coming out of many of the Republicans today. They would have been considered Sagebrush Republicans (fiscally conservative, socially liberal). You don't really hear that term used anymore though.

    I have never been a registered Democrat but I do frequently vote for them. So far, I have voted for more democrats than I have republicans. I consider myself progressive while also supporting minimizing waste.
  • wesv

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    Apr 13, 2015 3:15 AM GMT
    Radd saidI have some Conservative views but I could NEVER vote Republican for moral reason. The Republican party as a whole is racist (and I'm not throwing the race card here without reason. They are TRULY racist), homophobic, greedy, selfish and in short will put money before people each and every time.



    That reminds me of my ex boyfriend. He was a Republican from Orange [fuck you] County, California. Or should I say "Red County"? He hated LA and referred to West Hollywood as "West Hollyweird" for several reasons, including the fact the we are mostly Democrats. He was pretty RACIST when I think about it. He loved Asian men because of really nasty reasons. He was bi (not to say all bi guys are assholes) and thought that Asian men were the most feminine of all races, therefore he was kinda "having women while dating men." He said nasty shit such as "Jews are the most racist people on the face of this earth." And to add on how he was an asshole Republican, he loved Chik-Fil-A and was a former employee of Hobby Lobby. I tried to tell him that Chik-Fil-A is an evil company, but his reply was "Fags just don't get it. In this country you can have any view. The people working there are just working there." He just didn't get.

    Oh and I remember how would say things about how Obama deserved to be done the same way JFK did. I swear if I see him again I'll kick his ass.
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:19 AM GMT
    pazzy said
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    Pazzyreality is depressing. can't run away from it. it's not even 50 years since the supreme court decided that it was illegal for states to outlaw interracial marriages. a majority of the american public was AGAINST it at the time when the supreme court made it's decision. imagine if it were up to the public to vote on that. the general public cannot be trusted especially when it comes to the lives of other people besides their own. 50 years is not a long time at all. it's fairly recent. gay people getting their civil rights is actually a brand new concept yet folks are getting a bit too comfortable thinking that it's always been that way.


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    Captain America* is a democrat and YOU should be too! Let's mention Chris Evan's Uncle is a democratic U.S. Congressman, Mike Capuano. Chris Evans is also a democrat.

    What you fail to see is if everyone had your mentality we wouldn't be where we are today. Honestly think about the people who have offered you kindness or touched your heart -- would they have been able to leave that heart print if they viewed life through the dreary filter you seem to view life through (for as long as I've been on here). Would Martin Luther King Jr. even bother to dream, if he viewed life as futile? Life will NEVER be perfect and hatred will always exist, but that doesn't mean the world isn't progressing scientifically and embracing humanity. The USA has created conditions that allows entrepreneurs to best utilize their unique set of abilities. From Elton John to Steve Job's imagination becoming a real product.

    photo image_zpstz3xp0b2.jpg

    Let's note Steve Jobs was the CEO of Apple Inc. and a board member of The Walt Disney Corporation (YAY Disney); even-though he owned a multi-billion dollar company he was still a democrat and supported Obama.

    Now Pazzy we've been down this road a very long time ago. Happiness, to an extent, is a choice. If that means seeing a doctor or therapist for medication or cognitive/behavior modification skills -- then that is what you need to do; unless you like thinking that way.

    I already told you this a long time ago, but it's worth mentioning again:

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    Only you can take the necessary actions to be what a lot of people consider success -- healthy, happy, and peace of mind. If you want to keep justifying the reasons the world is so dreary and bleak (tout yourself as being a realist) have fun with that. Seriously, get some help -- life doesn't have to be so miserable or bleak, and no one is going to care more about your wellbeing other than yourself man.

    Also I'd like to mention if they make a new Steve Job's movie (I didn't see the first one yet) --before the ending credits start-- they should have real video footage, from an Apple store! An Apple location who has hired legally blind employees who utilize Apple's technology to serve customers effectively (this exists it was in a Forbes article**). I know Apple has a diverse group of employees, and they treat their employees very well.

    *
    http://historicallyaccuratesteve.tumblr.com/post/77834460957/sorry-if-this-sounds-rude-but-wouldnt-steves

    http://threatquality.com/2010/02/16/dear-right-wing-conservatives-who-are-outraged-by-captain-america/

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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/worldviews/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-democratic-legacy/

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    you need to start being more realistic and stop having your head in the clouds. you're thinking exactly the way they want you to think and it's working. you let your fantasies get in the line of what's really there in front of you.



    Dude you're always negative.
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:29 AM GMT
    wesv said
    Radd saidI have some Conservative views but I could NEVER vote Republican for moral reason. The Republican party as a whole is racist (and I'm not throwing the race card here without reason. They are TRULY racist), homophobic, greedy, selfish and in short will put money before people each and every time.



    That reminds me of my ex boyfriend. He was a Republican from Orange [fuck you] County, California. Or should I say "Red County"? He hated LA and referred to West Hollywood as "West Hollyweird" for several reasons, including the fact the we are mostly Democrats. He was pretty RACIST when I think about it. He loved Asian men because of really nasty reasons. He was bi and thought that Asian men were the most feminine of all races, therefore he was kinda "having women while dating men." He said nasty shit such as "Jews are the most racist people on the face of this earth." And to add on how he was an asshole Republican, he loved Chik-Fil-A and was a former employee of Hobby Lobby. I tried to tell him that Chik-Fil-A is an evil company, but his reply was "Fags just don't get it. In this country you can have any view. The people working there are just working there." He just didn't get.


    GROSS you have to be careful. A lot of guys think that Asian men are submissive, and like to be told what to think. I've been on a few dates with guys who assumed I'd be passive and just nod my head and agree... I think being adopted as a baby and learning to debate at the dinner table came in handy. One guy had the audacity, on a first date, to say he expects to "f-word" my "p-word" all the time (I hate when guys refer to male body parts as female body parts) -- I was shocked. He also told me all the reasons I'd choose to be a republican once I was with him. He saw how uncomfortable I was with his crass sexual language, and tried to give me $50 as gas money to go on a second date with him. I handed him his money back and I knew I was never going to see that freak again.
  • jo2hotbod

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    Apr 13, 2015 3:35 AM GMT
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    Who wants to fuck captain America, lick him red, white and blue
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:44 AM GMT
    Political parties are just a distraction. While "democrats" and "republicans" fight each other on stupid shit, the ones with real money and power continue to grow their money and power at everyone's expense. We're basically fucked.
  • metta

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    Apr 13, 2015 3:49 AM GMT
    xrichx saidPolitical parties are just a distraction. While "democrats" and "republicans" fight each other on stupid shit, the ones with real money and power continue to grow their money and power at everyone's expense. We're basically fucked.


    ^

    which is basically Bernie Sanders platform...if he decides to run.


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  • wesv

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    Apr 13, 2015 4:00 AM GMT
    pazzy said
    wesv said

    That reminds me of my ex boyfriend. He was a Republican from Orange [fuck you] County, California. Or should I say "Red County"? He hated LA and referred to West Hollywood as "West Hollyweird" for several reasons, including the fact the we are mostly Democrats. He was pretty RACIST when I think about it. He loved Asian men because of really nasty reasons. He was bi (not to say all bi guys are assholes) and thought that Asian men were the most feminine of all races, therefore he was kinda "having women while dating men." He said nasty shit such as "Jews are the most racist people on the face of this earth." And to add on how he was an asshole Republican, he loved Chik-Fil-A and was a former employee of Hobby Lobby. I tried to tell him that Chik-Fil-A is an evil company, but his reply was "Fags just don't get it. In this country you can have any view. The people working there are just working there." He just didn't get.

    Oh and I remember how would say things about how Obama deserved to be done the same way JFK did. I swear if I see him again I'll kick his ass.



    and yet you gave him the time of day. icon_lol.gif he can't be that big of an asshole if you were willing to make him your boyfriend.

    none of that shit made you want to kick him to the curb though?


    He was manipulative and insisted on me dating him on the very same day I met him just to chat. It was his idea and not mine. He said all this shit about how he was a psychiatrist and did intelligence in the USAF and knew "for a fact it would work out." Basically he made me his boyfriend before I could even find out he was actually a total dickhead.

    You trying to pull shit = FAIL
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    Apr 13, 2015 4:52 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnOriginal, what does this have to do with "All Things Gay?" You should post stuff like this in the "News & Politics" forum which was created by our very own Art_Deco so that political topics wouldn't pollute the general interest forums.


    Look who's talking about polluting the forums.
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    Apr 13, 2015 2:13 PM GMT
    metta8 said...They would have been considered Sagebrush Republicans (fiscally conservative, socially liberal). You don't really hear that term used anymore though.

    I have never been a registered Democrat but I do frequently vote for them...


    I'd have lost a bet on your not being a registered Democrat. Have never heard the sagebrush term. I suppose I'm that, only in a size D not an R dress because generally I do not believe that ends justify means which I've found to be a difference in the parties. That outside of the immediacy of life/death-type situations, without integrity throughout the process, the result is lesser, not greater, even if it looks good enough.

    Raised by humanists who rarely discussed politics when I was growing up--in all these years my parents have never declared to me their political affiliation though I'm pretty sure by everything else they say that they were/are Dems--I began voting at 18, a registered Independent.

    Though I was active in the ecology movement from when I was a kid...

    (this was our symbol at the time, on the cover of all my notebooks...)
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    ...I hadn't been otherwise politically inclined and still find it a bit distasteful so I purposely remained registered Independent while I studied the issues and the people more closely, registering as Democrat within I think it was maybe my 2nd or 3rd general election. During that entire time I found myself leaning Democrat, wanted to remain Independent but more so I wanted to participate in voting during the primaries so I declared allegiance.

    To me the biggest difference between the parties, aside from the obvious social v fiscal aspects (though I do think there's very little difference these day fiscally--Obama to me is a corporate shill and I believe that Republicans bitching about him are merely posturing), is that--and I say this in my typical graceful style--while the Democrats can sometimes fall into the trap of dishing bullshit, the Republicans are much more so full of shit. I follow my nose and go where I smell less shit.

    In particular, hand in hand are Republicans and Revisionism. Reality for them is what's convenient. I think that is weak and that is why they tend to be bullies, overcompensating for their inability to grasp truth. In my younger years, before they became this disgusting overall, Republicans could get my vote if they had a candidate I liked but no longer do they ever get my vote. Though I don't always vote Democrat either.

    When the Democrats fuck up, like when the idiot Florida Democrats (a party that is an absolute mess) ran the fraudulent Crist for governor, I proudly wrote in a protest vote for Alfred E. Neuman.
  • Unnamed6

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    Apr 13, 2015 8:52 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    wesv said
    pazzy said
    wesv said

    That reminds me of my ex boyfriend. He was a Republican from Orange [fuck you] County, California. Or should I say "Red County"? He hated LA and referred to West Hollywood as "West Hollyweird" for several reasons, including the fact the we are mostly Democrats. He was pretty RACIST when I think about it. He loved Asian men because of really nasty reasons. He was bi (not to say all bi guys are assholes) and thought that Asian men were the most feminine of all races, therefore he was kinda "having women while dating men." He said nasty shit such as "Jews are the most racist people on the face of this earth." And to add on how he was an asshole Republican, he loved Chik-Fil-A and was a former employee of Hobby Lobby. I tried to tell him that Chik-Fil-A is an evil company, but his reply was "Fags just don't get it. In this country you can have any view. The people working there are just working there." He just didn't get.

    Oh and I remember how would say things about how Obama deserved to be done the same way JFK did. I swear if I see him again I'll kick his ass.



    and yet you gave him the time of day. icon_lol.gif he can't be that big of an asshole if you were willing to make him your boyfriend.

    none of that shit made you want to kick him to the curb though?


    He was manipulative and insisted on me dating him on the very same day I met him just to chat. It was his idea and not mine. He said all this shit about how he was a psychiatrist and did intelligence in the USAF and knew "for a fact it would work out." Basically he made me his boyfriend before I could even find out he was actually a total dickhead.

    You trying to pull shit = FAIL



    icon_lol.gif take some responsibility, breh. all you did was blame him for the choice you made. if you felt like he was pushing you into a situation, you could have told him to stop but you went along with it. all that nasty behavior and you still went along with the ride instead of running away. let me guess, he broke up with you instead of you breaking up with him?


    Again Pazzy, one aspect of credibility relies on consistency.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Apr 13, 2015 10:00 PM GMT
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    Who wants to fuck captain America, lick him red, white and blue
    Yeah especially since he is a tax and spend donkey dork.
  • tj85016

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    Apr 13, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
    In the US, you can be a member of the War/Hate Parties (Republicans/Tea Bags) or the colossal government overreach party (Democrats)

    I choose neither
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    Apr 13, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidIn the US, you can be a member of the War/Hate Parties (Republicans/Tea Bags) or the colossal government overreach party (Democrats)

    I choose neither


    That's a bit extreme but there are elements of truth to what you say. I was a Democrat for a long time but switched to Republican in the last five years primarily as a protest to the micromanaging/nanny-state agenda of the more left-wing factions of the Democratic party that go unchallenged, as well as the Democratic party's rudderless and amoral stance on what is best for society as a whole. In this regard I think the Democrats are more responsible than the Republicans for encouraging people to feel victimized as a means to gain political power, with the cohesiveness of the country having been significantly damaged. I like the Republican party's greater emphasis on patriotism and more positive vision for the future of the United States. I have yet to vote for a Republican in a major election, but I'm more open to it.