WHY DID JOAN CRAWFORD HATE WIRE HANGERS???????

  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
    If she hated them so much why were they in the house ???
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    Apr 14, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
    They weren't, for long.
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    Apr 14, 2015 8:55 PM GMT
    venue35 saidIf she hated them so much why were they in the house ???

    Because when clothes come back from the dry cleaners, they cleaners put them on the cheap wire hangers.
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    Apr 14, 2015 8:59 PM GMT
    Did she ever love anything?
  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
    Then why didn't she tell the dry cleaners that??
    Maybe wire hangers would ruin her shoulder pads??
    Was that the reason ?????
  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:02 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidDid she ever love anything?
    Only her self apparently..
    And maybe her caterpillar like eyebrows
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:31 PM GMT
    Wire hangers have many practical uses besides just for hanging clothes. You can jimmy the lock on a car door, or perform a dangerous DIY abortion!
  • Svnw688

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:35 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare said
    venue35 saidIf she hated them so much why were they in the house ???

    Because when clothes come back from the dry cleaners, they cleaners put them on the cheap wire hangers.


    Precisely.

    And I just watched this classic movie again on Netflix!
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    Apr 14, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    Sharkspeare said
    venue35 saidIf she hated them so much why were they in the house ???

    Because when clothes come back from the dry cleaners, they cleaners put them on the cheap wire hangers.


    Precisely.

    And I just watched this classic movie again on Netflix!

    I didn't know he wanted precise answers. I thought he was looking for creative and inappropriate answers.icon_neutral.gif
  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:42 PM GMT
    Movie????? I don't know what you're talking about.icon_mad.gif
  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:43 PM GMT
    What the hell did she want ?
    Wooden hangers from the dry cleaners?
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    Apr 14, 2015 9:48 PM GMT
    I recall reading somewhere she found wire hangers too redolent of her deprived childhood.
  • Svnw688

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:49 PM GMT
    venue35 saidMovie????? I don't know what you're talking about.icon_mad.gif


    Mommie Dearest

    It's an autobiographical film. EVERY gay man should see it at least once. And for some reason, I associate it with another classic: "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane." Both must sees.

    220px-Mommie_Dearest-HR_Edition_cover.jp
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 14, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI recall reading somewhere she found wire hangers too redolent of her deprived childhood.

    See, she was just doing her best to give her daughter a better life.icon_cry.gif
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    Apr 14, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    venue35 saidMovie????? I don't know what you're talking about.icon_mad.gif


    Mommie Dearest

    It's an autobiographical film. EVERY gay man should see it at least once. And for some reason, I associate it with another classic: "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane." Both must sees.

    220px-Mommie_Dearest-HR_Edition_cover.jp

    Whatever Happened to Baby Jane starred Joan Crawford, and Mommy Dearest was about Joan Crawford.... That, and they're both campy.
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    Apr 14, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
    Here's a great review of Mommie Dearest from imdb.com titled, "Words can't do justice":

    evanston_dad saidIt seems almost pointless for me to add any comments here, since everyone else who's posted has done such a great job of summarizing this film's merits, but I can't resist. How do you rate a movie like this? On the one hand, it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen: completely lacking in coherence, shameful acting, writing so bad it seems to be making fun of itself. In fact, I'm still not convinced this movie isn't supposed to be a parody of Christina Crawford's book rather than a serious attempt to adapt it to the screen. On the other hand, it's such a rip-roarin' good time of a show that I'm tempted to give it 10 stars on the strength of its sheer entertainment value alone.

    Faye Dunaway gives the most jaw-droppingly mesmerizing freak out ever captured on screen, whose bizarreness cannot even be topped by Halle Berry's Oscar acceptance speech. Dunaway must have realized early on that she was a rat in a sinking ship, but instead of deserting, she decides instead to devour the crew. I don't know if her performance comes anywhere close to capturing the real Joan Crawford, but if Crawford was even a tenth of a percent as loony as Dunaway portrays her here, I would have been high-tailing it to Canada if I were either of her children. The fabulous lines, many of which are quoted on this site, can't really be done justice when removed from the context in which they appear, and you really have to see the faces of the actors as they're delivering them to get the full effect. The wire hanger scene is of course a classic, but it's really the floor scrubbing scene immediately following, with Dunaway in kabuki makeup squatting on the floor like a Sumo wrestler, that remains more memorable. Watching Joanie jog is a sight to behold, especially when she starts talking to herself and scrunching her face up as if she's imitating Alvin or one of his chipmunks. There's the "I can handle the socks" moment, one of the most seductive moments (hee, hee) in film history, and of course the coup de grace comes when Joanie tackles Christina across the coffee table and begins banging her head into the floor like she's in a women's prison movie.

    The editing in this film is atrocious. There's no sense of time; events follow each other in a loosely chronological fashion, but they don't make dramatic or narrative sense. Frank Perry, the director, must have been dozing off through much of this production; either that or his film crew carried out a mutiny, tied him up, threw him in a shed, and went ahead without him. But it seems churlish to criticize a film like this for its poor film making. It's like kicking a dead horse.

    All I can say is, if you watch this movie with the right people in the right frame of mind (i.e. with alcohol), you will be howling. I watched this with a group in college, and we had to periodically pause the movie in order to allow everyone to recover before continuing. Thank you, Ms. Dunaway, for giving us "Mommie Dearest." The world will never be able to repay you for your kindness.

    Grade: F or A+ (depending on your perspective and level of sobriety)
  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Svnw688 said
    venue35 saidMovie????? I don't know what you're talking about.icon_mad.gif


    Mommie Dearest

    It's an autobiographical film. EVERY gay man should see it at least once. And for some reason, I associate it with another classic: "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane." Both must sees.

    220px-Mommie_Dearest-HR_Edition_cover.jp

    Whatever Happened to Baby Jane starred Joan Crawford, and Mommy Dearest was about Joan Crawford.... That, and they're both campy.

    Do you guys really think that I've never seen the film???
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
  • venue35

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    Apr 14, 2015 10:28 PM GMT
    Bette Davis on Joan Crawford :

    I went to her house once...and she actually had her initials everywhere..
    J.C on her robe,
    J.C on the napkins...
    She even had her initials on the goddamn stationary!!!
    Spend time with her and you'll pick up all kinds of useless shit.
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    Apr 14, 2015 10:31 PM GMT
    Because they poke holes when she tries to use them like candles and cucumbers.
  • Unnamed6

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    Apr 14, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
    venue35 saidIf she hated them so much why were they in the house ???


    You're supposed to be Greek, right? Well understood to an American audience the context of the scene was that she was upset at an 'ungrateful' adopted daughter, when she could have had, well, her own, but couldn't anymore because of wire hangers (assuming wire hangers could puncture things and what not).
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    Apr 14, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
    venue35 saidBette Davis on Joan Crawford :

    I went to her house once...and she actually had her initials everywhere..
    J.C on her robe,
    J.C on the napkins...
    She even had her initials on the goddamn stationary!!!
    Spend time with her and you'll pick up all kinds of useless shit.


    Bette Davis, on learning that Joan had died:

    "You're only supposed to say good things about the dead. So. Joan is dead? Good."
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    Apr 14, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
    Wire hangers are evil
    put them in the recycle before entering the house
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    Apr 15, 2015 12:00 AM GMT
    The "Hollywood Royalty" version of the DVD featuring John Waters' commentary is also excellent. He pronounces it, almost apologetically, "a good movie," which, in its own way, it is. But, my favorite JC movie is "Mildred Pierce." I believe ExMil is right about the hangers reminding JC of her impoverished childhood; she may have worked in a laundry as a kid.
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 15, 2015 12:27 AM GMT
    I'm more of a Bette Davis fan, actually. I think she was the more modern actress of their day.... Plus, she had all the most recognizable one-liners of that era:

    "Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy ride."
  • jo2hotbod

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    Apr 15, 2015 2:31 AM GMT
    The Busch administration liked wire hangers and every other type of wire