Mat Staver: Gay sex has cost US government more than $225 billion -

  • metta

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    Apr 18, 2015 3:23 AM GMT
    Mat Staver: Gay sex has cost US government more than $225 billion



    - See more at: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mat-staver-homosexuality-has-cost-us-government-more-225-billion170415
  • Apparition

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    Apr 18, 2015 2:10 PM GMT
    And pregnancy due to teaching no birth control for teenagers? Pennies it would seem. Lost property taxes on church properties? Moron
  • tazzari

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    Apr 18, 2015 5:57 PM GMT
    metta8 saidMat Staver: Gay sex has cost US government more than $225 billion



    - See more at: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mat-staver-homosexuality-has-cost-us-government-more-225-billion170415


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  • FRE0

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    Apr 18, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
    It's unclear how he quantified the dollar loss. However, much of the loss, however much it is, is the result of oppression of gay men and women that have led them to live lives that are not always constructive. If gay men and women were affirmed by American culture and relationships were supported, much of the problematic behavior that the fundamentalists erroneously see as intrinsic to gay men and women would be far less common.

    He also makes no attempt to quantify the cost of inappropriate sexual behavior among non-gays.
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    Apr 18, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
    FRE0 saidIt's unclear how he quantified the dollar loss. However, much of the loss, however much it is, is the result of oppression of gay men and women that have led them to live lives that are not always constructive. If gay men and women were affirmed by American culture and relationships were supported, much of the problematic behavior that the fundamentalists erroneously see as intrinsic to gay men and women would be far less common.

    He also makes no attempt to quantify the cost of inappropriate sexual behavior among non-gays.



    BINGO.
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    Apr 19, 2015 4:53 AM GMT
    Actually he's right (no pun intended).

    26 Years brings us back to 1988 when the FEDS started spending on HIV/Aids. A majority of HIV/AIDS cases are still in the US gay/bi population.

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/basics/ataglance.html
  • jeepguySD

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    Apr 19, 2015 10:47 AM GMT
    'Studies repeatedly show that homosexual conduct can result in significant cost to the community that encourages it."

    'Studies estimate that over the course of 26 years, our government spent more than $225 billion that could be directly attributed to the breakdown of the family culture and its resulting social consequences.'


    Which "studies?" Conducted by who?

    And FRE0 is right. Even if we concede that the $225 billion number is accurate, how does it compare to the "costs" of str8 "conduct?"

    Good grief!
  • goodguyrjr

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    Apr 19, 2015 11:22 AM GMT
    there are economic gains attributable to "homosexual" conduct from the startup and growth of businesses, property values, services, arts, which are siginificant additions to GDP.
    The loss to the economy from discrimination and the increased costs to the system from it are the cause of the strains
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    Apr 20, 2015 1:50 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidActually he's right (no pun intended).

    26 Years brings us back to 1988 when the FEDS started spending on HIV/Aids. A majority of HIV/AIDS cases are still in the US gay/bi population.


    YOU'RE RIGHT! No pun intended. The U.S. Government should never have wasted a dime on treating an epidemic that affects not only gay & bisexual men, drug users, heterosexual women, hemophiliacs, medical staff, or anyone else God Almighty has marked for death (you're next, Zaire!)...it should have let the invisible hand of the market correct for this problem.

    Or maybe you're an asshole who hates humanity. Hard to tell from your post.
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    Apr 20, 2015 3:13 AM GMT
    Alpha13 saidWell, honestly gays are the bullies regarding lobbying for free STD health care . It's pretty irresponsible that HIV POZ guys proudly engage in unsafe sex because they aren't picking up the tab for their behavior.

    Now the transgenders expect the government to pay for their sex change costs which they claim are not discretional even when they are purely cosmetic. Do they really expect republicans to pay for this stuff?
  • Rene_Aensland

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    Apr 20, 2015 5:52 AM GMT
    Apparition saidAnd pregnancy due to teaching no birth control for teenagers? Pennies it would seem. Lost property taxes on church properties? Moron


    LOL! Literally took the words right out of my fucking mouth.
  • Rene_Aensland

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    Apr 20, 2015 5:54 AM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    Alpha13 saidWell, honestly gays are the bullies regarding lobbying for free STD health care . It's pretty irresponsible that HIV POZ guys proudly engage in unsafe sex because they aren't picking up the tab for their behavior.

    Now the transgenders expect the government to pay for their sex change costs which they claim are not discretional even when they are purely cosmetic. Do they really expect republicans to pay for this stuff?


    Yes because clearly 100% of the men and women that are HIV+ are gay.
    Clearly no heterosexuals have ever acquired the virus.
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    Apr 20, 2015 6:21 AM GMT
    Mat Staver: Gay sex has cost US government more than $225 billion

    Well, if they're going to complain, then the US government should stop paying for sex. If they were out and proud, they could probably get it for free. This is not that complicated.
  • NursePractiti...

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    Apr 20, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
    I confess. It's not all gays costing that much. It's just me. I just love good coffee and shoes!icon_twisted.gif
  • SkyMiles

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    Apr 20, 2015 3:32 PM GMT
    I'd do it for half that much icon_smile.gif.

    Seriously though, practically everything has a vast cost when you sum it up -- driving, tobacco, alcohol, guns, fast food, pollen, sugar, and on and on. Sounds like this guy is just trying to make some bullshit point attacking something he (SAYS he) doesn't like anyway.
  • Svnw688

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    Apr 20, 2015 3:54 PM GMT
    How did he reach the number?

    Where's the relevant comparator number (i.e., the cost of heterosexual sex)?

    How do those rates compare?

    Are there 'unique' additions the LGBT population creates for society that attributes to the bottom line (e.g., as mentioned above, by gentrification, the arts, etc.).

    This smells bogus.
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    Apr 20, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
    Rene_Aensland said
    Alpha13 said
    Alpha13 saidWell, honestly gays are the bullies regarding lobbying for free STD health care . It's pretty irresponsible that HIV POZ guys proudly engage in unsafe sex because they aren't picking up the tab for their behavior.

    Now the transgenders expect the government to pay for their sex change costs which they claim are not discretional even when they are purely cosmetic. Do they really expect republicans to pay for this stuff?


    Yes because clearly 100% of the men and women that are HIV+ are gay.
    Clearly no heterosexuals have ever acquired the virus.


    I only speak from personal knowledge, info from " others" is generally BS. I don't know any heterosexuals that are HIV Poz . I know two guys that died from Aids or from the meds last year.

    I know a guy the that contracted syphilis 8 times last year. He jokes about it because some "hater" republican is paying to treat him so that he does not infect others.
  • wesv

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    Apr 21, 2015 12:49 AM GMT
    I'm not surprised. DL cases like Larry Craig are willing to pay.
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    Apr 21, 2015 2:52 AM GMT
    How much has heterosexual sex cost the government?
  • davfit

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    Apr 21, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
    Taser him somebody.. then cuff.. strip Him (oh my eyes) and stick cucumbers up his Bum love,...yeah.. baby (photo time)
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    Apr 21, 2015 2:55 PM GMT
    StephenOABC said
    How much has heterosexual sex cost the government?

    Good question, as FRE0 also asks. I'll peg it at $500 billion, make it a nice round number. And my numbers are as scientific as his are. Which is to say, not at all.