Two Scandals in One: Newsweek Uncovers Clinton Foundation's Biggest Donor Likely Violating Iran Sanctions; then Newsweek frets that "enemies" can discredit her

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    Apr 19, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
    Newsweek writer Rory Ross has done a valuable service bringing to light the activities of the largest single donor to the Clinton Foundation, a man most Americans have never heard of: Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, 54, has courted the Clintons for at least nine years – in the United States, the Alps and Ukraine.

    Newsweek has seen declarations and documents from Ukraine that show a series of shipments from Interpipe to Iran in 2011 and 2012, including railway parts and products commonly used in the oil and gas sectors.

    Among a number of high-value invoices for products related to rail or oil and gas, one shipment for $1.8m (1.7m) in May 2012 was for “seamless hot-worked steel pipes for pipelines” and destined for a city near the Caspian Sea.

    Both the rail and oil and gas sectors are sanctioned by the US, which specifically prohibits any single invoice to the Iranian petrochemical industry worth more than $1m.

    However, US sanctions laws are complex and, in certain areas, ill-defined. Interpipe may qualify for penalties due to the mere presence on American soil of North American Interpipe Inc, its United States subsidiary.

    The person in charge of this list of non-US companies is the Secretary of State, who between 2009 to 2013 – the period during which Pinchuk’s company was trading with Iran – was Hillary Clinton.

    So kudos to Newsweek reporter Ross. But wait! How did the editors in New York choose to lead off this story of a Hillary Clinton scandal?

    "Enemies of Hillary Clinton waiting to discredit her bid for the White House are likely to seize on news that one of the biggest benefactors to the Clinton Foundation has been trading with Iran and may be in breach of US sanctions imposed on the country."
    The “enemies” (not opponents, but enemies) are the story, not Hillary. Mark Hemingway of The Weekly Standard:

    Why on earth would a story about Clinton cashing large checks from a shady Ukranian oligarch be framed not about the scandal itself, but whether or not Hillary Clinton's supposed "enemies" would use it to discredit her? If she has, in fact, done something wrong or inappropriate -- she deserves to be discredited and/or judged by voters.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/two_scandals_in_one_newsweek_uncovers_clinton_foundations_biggest_donor_likely_violating_iran_sanctions.html

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    Another source:

    Clinton Embroiled in Scandal Again, Newsweek Frets Over 'Enemies' Discrediting Her

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/clinton-embroiled-scandal-again-newsweek-frets-over-her-enemies-discrediting-her_923268.html
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    Apr 19, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
    One difference between Hillary and Obama: Obama didn't take positions on much, voting Present in Illinois and absent much of the time in the Senate. So he could be all things to all people, especially the naive ones. But Hillary:

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    Apr 19, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
    More reasons for her conspiring with key aids at the start of her Secretary of State tenure to use a private server to conceal emails among them. Then wiping the server clean upon requests to have a neutral arbitrator cut out the personal from official email. - and lying that it was all done for "convenience" of carrying only one device, when that was also shown to be a lie.

    Her supporters who know about her pattern of deception: If they tolerate dishonesty in others, then they tolerate dishonesty in themselves. If you value integrity, would you want to do business with a Hillary supporter?
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    Apr 19, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidMore reasons for her conspiring with key aids at the start of her Secretary of State tenure to use a private server to conceal emails among them. Then wiping the server clean upon requests to have a neutral arbitrator cut out the personal from official email. - and lying that it was all done for "convenience" of carrying only one device, when that was also shown to be a lie.

    Her supporters who know about her pattern of deception: If they tolerate dishonesty in others, then they tolerate dishonesty in themselves. If you value integrity, would you want to do business with a Hillary supporter?
    This is all valid information that could be used against this crooked, power hungry whore during the Presidential campaign next year.
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    socalfitness saidMore reasons for her conspiring with key aids at the start of her Secretary of State tenure to use a private server to conceal emails among them. Then wiping the server clean upon requests to have a neutral arbitrator cut out the personal from official email. - and lying that it was all done for "convenience" of carrying only one device, when that was also shown to be a lie.

    Her supporters who know about her pattern of deception: If they tolerate dishonesty in others, then they tolerate dishonesty in themselves. If you value integrity, would you want to do business with a Hillary supporter?
    This is all valid information that could be used against this crooked, power hungry whore during the Presidential campaign next year.


    Wow really last time I checked it was her husband who cheated -- you really don't want to see an intelligent woman in the White House -- do you? I'm sure when Palin was with McCain you were on that bandwagon, but then again guys like you enjoy pretty dumb guys and gals...
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    roadbikeRob said
    socalfitness saidMore reasons for her conspiring with key aids at the start of her Secretary of State tenure to use a private server to conceal emails among them. Then wiping the server clean upon requests to have a neutral arbitrator cut out the personal from official email. - and lying that it was all done for "convenience" of carrying only one device, when that was also shown to be a lie.

    Her supporters who know about her pattern of deception: If they tolerate dishonesty in others, then they tolerate dishonesty in themselves. If you value integrity, would you want to do business with a Hillary supporter?
    This is all valid information that could be used against this crooked, power hungry whore during the Presidential campaign next year.


    Wow really last time I checked it was her husband who cheated -- you really don't want to see an intelligent woman in the White House -- do you? I'm sure when Palin was with McCain you were on that bandwagon, but then again guys like you enjoy pretty dumb guys and gals...

    I want someone smart, competent, and honest. I will give you the smart part. Competence is debatable although I have a definite opinion that she's incompetent based upon her string of failures. But others may argue differently. Her dishonesty is pretty well-established. Does that matter to you, and if not what does that say about you?
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    Apr 20, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
    there's also some sketchy stuff between China, CISCO Corp and the Clinton FOundation
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    Apr 20, 2015 12:25 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidOne difference between Hillary and Obama: Obama didn't take positions on much, voting Present in Illinois and absent much of the time in the Senate. So he could be all things to all people, especially the naive ones. But Hillary:

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    Very good (and true) cartoon.

    Her baggage involving all her failures and dishonesty will dog her throughout the campaign. That along with her general unlikability will be a big factor up till 2016. Both very different than Obama's case. She is already being mocked by the media - and that has a corrosive effect. She is not the inevitable president, btw.

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    Apr 20, 2015 12:35 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said She is not the inevitable president, btw.


    We've now got more stupid, ignorant and morally corrupt people in the electorate than honest, hard working voters. That is why Hillary will be the next President.

    It depends on the voter turnout. If the pattern follows 2008 and 2012, then very likely. If the pattern follows 2010 and 2014, that it is very much up in the air. In 2010 and 2014, the Dems were not feeling so good, and the election results reflected that. Anyone's guess at this point how it will be for 2016. So nothing is inevitable at this point.
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    Apr 20, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said
    socalfitness said She is not the inevitable president, btw.


    We've now got more stupid, ignorant and morally corrupt people in the electorate than honest, hard working voters. That is why Hillary will be the next President.

    It depends on the voter turnout. If the pattern follows 2008 and 2012, then very likely. If the pattern follows 2010 and 2014, that it is very much up in the air. In 2010 and 2014, the Dems were not feeling so good, and the election results reflected that. Anyone's guess at this point how it will be for 2016. So nothing is inevitable at this point.

    Just an additional comment: Voter turnout favored Dems when Obama was running because of his popularity among certain demographics. Hillary does not enjoy that same popularity. Could very well follow the turnout pattern of 2010 and 2014, which would not work in Hillary's favor. Add to that her baggage and general unlikability among many, along with not being considered a good campaigner. Furthermore, her skills may not be honed if she doesn't have to face any serious primary challengers. If the Republicans put up someone who is articulate, likable, and comes across as fresh versus an old has-been, there could well be a Republican in the White House. Word is the Hillary campaign is most concerned about a Marco Rubio candidacy, and with good reason.
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    Apr 20, 2015 3:45 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    Wow really last time I checked it was her husband who cheated -- you really don't want to see an intelligent woman in the White House -- do you? I'm sure when Palin was with McCain you were on that bandwagon, but then again guys like you enjoy pretty dumb guys and gals...


    Hillary has been in way more scandals that Bill.

    Did you ever hear about her making $100,000 in 10 months investing $1,000 for the first time in cattle futures? It was a one in 32 trillion chance if she did it honestly. That was way back when he was attorney general in Arkansas.

    Did you ever hear about the Whitewater land scam? She was the attorney who handled most of the deals. Five of Bill and Hillary's friends in the scam went to prison. That led to all of her billing records from the law firm disappearing and being found 5 years later by a white house employee. There was a suicide of a boyhood friend of Bill's and white house attorney named Vince Foster involved with those billing records.

    What about "Filegate" where Hillary got the FBI to turn over files on Republicans to her own favorites in the WhiteHouse? That was a huge mess.

    Hillary's first big power game in the Whit House was "Travelgate.' She fired the staff of the White House Travel Agency so she could replace them with her own friends. That blew up in her face and all but one of the people got their jobs back. She even tried to get the FBI to falsify reports of wrongdoings so the people could be prosecuted.

    What about her breaking the law with her Hollywood fundraising efforts for her husband's 2nd election? Three people working with her did prison time. There are videos of Hillary on the phone with the event organizers planning the event - something that was illegal for her to do. When she was questioned she denied knowing any of the people involved in the fundraising even though she and Bill had been in pictures with them and had them as guests in the White House. It ended up with the Clintons paying the biggest fine EVER for mishandling election fundraising.

    Hillary was also the one who had Bill's sluts trailed by private detectives, threatened by thugs, harassed in the jobs and at home. The detectives have come forward to tell about it.

    All Bill ever did was poke any slut he could get away with poking ...and lying about it. That got him disbarred as a lawyer in Arkansas...

    The bottom line is Hillary has proven beyond any doubt that she is a ruthless unscrupulous power hungry bitch with no respect for anyone who disagrees with her. She is as crooked or more so than Richard Nixon and should never be allowed to sit in the Oval Office. It doesn't have one fucking thing to do with her being a woman.

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    Apr 20, 2015 11:56 AM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    AnOriginal said
    Wow really last time I checked it was her husband who cheated -- you really don't want to see an intelligent woman in the White House -- do you? I'm sure when Palin was with McCain you were on that bandwagon, but then again guys like you enjoy pretty dumb guys and gals...


    Hillary has been in way more scandals that Bill.

    Did you ever hear about her making $100,000 in 10 months investing $1,000 for the first time in cattle futures? It was a one in 32 trillion chance if she did it honestly. That was way back when he was attorney general in Arkansas.

    Did you ever hear about the Whitewater land scam? She was the attorney who handled most of the deals. Five of Bill and Hillary's friends in the scam went to prison. That led to all of her billing records from the law firm disappearing and being found 5 years later by a white house employee. There was a suicide of a boyhood friend of Bill's and white house attorney named Vince Foster involved with those billing records.

    What about "Filegate" where Hillary got the FBI to turn over files on Republicans to her own favorites in the WhiteHouse? That was a huge mess.

    Hillary's first big power game in the Whit House was "Travelgate.' She fired the staff of the White House Travel Agency so she could replace them with her own friends. That blew up in her face and all but one of the people got their jobs back. She even tried to get the FBI to falsify reports of wrongdoings so the people could be prosecuted.

    What about her breaking the law with her Hollywood fundraising efforts for her husband's 2nd election? Three people working with her did prison time. There are videos of Hillary on the phone with the event organizers planning the event - something that was illegal for her to do. When she was questioned she denied knowing any of the people involved in the fundraising even though she and Bill had been in pictures with them and had them as guests in the White House. It ended up with the Clintons paying the biggest fine EVER for mishandling election fundraising.

    Hillary was also the one who had Bill's sluts trailed by private detectives, threatened by thugs, harassed in the jobs and at home. The detectives have come forward to tell about it.

    All Bill ever did was poke any slut he could get away with poking ...and lying about it. That got him disbarred as a lawyer in Arkansas...

    The bottom line is Hillary has proven beyond any doubt that she is a ruthless unscrupulous power hungry bitch with no respect for anyone who disagrees with her. She is as crooked or more so than Richard Nixon and should never be allowed to sit in the Oval Office. It doesn't have one fucking thing to do with her being a woman.

    That is exactly it. But all these extremist liberal hens on here especially what's his face, the twerp from Tulsa known as Svnw688 will get all bent out of shape by dismissing and distorting all these true facts about this aging, power hungry whore who used to shriek at Bill that she needs to get fucked more than twice a year.
  • bobbobbob

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    Apr 20, 2015 2:02 PM GMT
    Fuck em.

    When confronted with facts its shows their immaturity when their only defenses is to yell RACIST, MISOGYNIST, HATER, RIGHT WING NAZI, HOMOPHOBE ETC... or to just make silly 3rd grade school yard insults.