So, which RJer is Giorgio Armani?

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    Apr 20, 2015 2:11 PM GMT
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    Giorgio "ArManly Mani" Armani"A homosexual man is a man 100%. He does not need to dress homosexual. When homosexuality is exhibited to the extreme - to say, 'Ah, you know I'm homosexual,' - that has nothing to do with me. A man has to be a man. I don't like muscle boy. Not too much gym. I like somebody healthy, somebody solid, who looks after his body but doesn't use his muscles too much."


    http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG11548312/Armani-tells-gay-men-Dont-dress-homosexual.html

    I... I have no idea what the heck he's talking about.

    Did the fashion designers all start drinking from the same loopy water fountain recently?
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    Apr 20, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
    Yea, I'm not sure what dressing like a homosexual is, but I tend to agree that overly muscled guys look slightly ridiculous.
  • Svnw688

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    Apr 20, 2015 8:57 PM GMT
    Oh Mr. Armani. I'll try a rough translation:

    "Gay men are authentic men, and gay men don't need to dress like a flaming stereotypical homosexual. If you want your clothing and accessories to scream "look at me, I'm a big flaming queer," then you're looking at the wrong fashion designer. My clothing designs do not scream 'faggot'. A man should be a man. On the other end of the spectrum, I don't like "plastic" men who hit the gym 24/7, desperately clinging onto the past, and acting all macho but in actuality coming across like little boys. A man should be healthy and solid, but not overly muscular."

    This last part was clearer in reading his criticism of woman who get breast enlargement and women who desperately get face lifts instead of aging with dignity. My thinking is Mr. Armani is all about the "natural" look, whether male or female. English is clearly not his native language, combine that with an already sensitive issue and you get that drunk babble he spit out. icon_cool.gif
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    Apr 20, 2015 9:12 PM GMT
    Why are we even reading what Armani has to say?
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    Apr 20, 2015 9:16 PM GMT
    He said likes his yachts butch.

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  • Destinharbor

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    Apr 20, 2015 9:17 PM GMT
    Oh, I was wondering what he was trying to say. I think he's wrong, though I do like his clothes. I saw an older lady friend just this past week-end that I hadn't seen for about 9 months. She looked terrific and I told her so. She immediately volunteered that she'd "had some work done." Of course I didn't ask for details but clearly, she looked and felt good and enjoyed being complimented. Natural is fine but I don't see anything wrong with a woman who can afford it having some work done or a man working out in the gym to hold onto his body. Why lie down and die?
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    Apr 20, 2015 9:21 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidOh, I was wondering what he was trying to say. I think he's wrong, though I do like his clothes. I saw an older lady friend just this past week-end that I hadn't seen for about 9 months. She looked terrific and I told her so. She immediately volunteered that she'd "had some work done." Of course I didn't ask for details but clearly, she looked and felt good and enjoyed being complimented. Natural is fine but I don't see anything wrong with a woman who can afford it having some work done or a man working out in the gym to hold onto his body. Why lie down and die?


    Agreed. And I think it's all about balance. A little work done? Go for it. Some time in the gym? Do it.

    7th facelift Ms. Rivers? 30th hour in the gym....this week Mr. Schwarzenegger?

    Pass.
  • Destinharbor

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    Apr 20, 2015 9:30 PM GMT
    Aw, I liked Joan Rivers. And I thought she looked "Marvelous!" I've known a lot of rich older women that were into anything and everything to stay attractive. I mean down South where I'm from and live, there isn't a single wealthy (hetero) woman over age 40 who isn't blond. Amazing. I find it entertaining. I don't particularly want to see them with their clothes off but dressed up and lunching? Super.
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    Apr 21, 2015 1:00 AM GMT
    I believe Armani is coming from the old "Machismo" ways of being a man. Meaning, a man doesn't cry, walks uprights, doesn't show emotion. Things like that in a old-school tradition way of thinking.

    I'm sure he's alluding to flamboyant gay men, dressing as such to garner attention but that what I got from the article. And to a degree I get it but in his position however, he was better off not making a comment at all.

    As for the guy who workout I'm sure he was not saying that at all when Ronaldo was modeling his clothes... just saying

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    Apr 21, 2015 2:25 AM GMT
    Doesn't this depend on the era?

    The conservative 1980's were probably the most flamboyant decade in recent memory, more so than the disco era of the 70's. Boy George, George Michael, Madonna, anything spandex, "str8" men with long hair, looking like women from the back and wearing glam make up. It just seems to me the more the conservative our country got, the more flamboyant gay men got? And we all know "why" gay men started going to the gym in the first place, that horrible decade the 80's and the start of the Aids-Hiv epidemic.

    When I officially came out in 1990, our country, men in particular, were already into the grunge, look and sound until at least the mid 90's. I was wearing some flannel and dark colored jeans to the local gay bars, it seemed like I fit in at the time. Then mid to late 90's, I was into the house-techno music, where the grunge look went and the anything goes came in, still not flamboyant enough to be criticized. I didn't buy anything Armani (exchange) (or Diesel) until the early 2000's, when I moved to LA.

    70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, 2010's, I never dressed like Johnny Weir, I don't know what Mr Armani is talking about, or who he is talking about, his runway model boys? icon_confused.gif


    1980's staple, for nerds gay or str8- charcoal gray levis corduroy icon_lol.gif
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  • buddycat

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    Apr 21, 2015 8:56 AM GMT
    Yeh, don't dress homosexual. Don't wear Armani.
  • secondstartot...

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    Apr 21, 2015 9:57 AM GMT
    always found Armani to be the most boring designer of all
  • HottJoe

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    Apr 21, 2015 3:38 PM GMT
    Radd? Minus the tailoring...
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    Apr 21, 2015 4:10 PM GMT
    secondstartotheright saidalways found Armani to be the most boring designer of all


    Yeah, his design concept is to create fashion for the rich republican and conservative wannabes. I always thought that was a bit homophobic.
    Dressing gay is core value for young gays.
  • buddycat

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    Apr 22, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
    [quote]Dressing gay is core value for young gays. [/quote]

    Or young metrosexuals, who dress even gayer. I agree though, his designs are dull and that Armani Exchange crap is tacky. I only had one pair of shorts from him in the past. Not that I am that into fashion right now, almost exclusively wear Nautica, which in my opinion is a lot less "gayer" than his clothes. If I wanted to wear something more designer, I have worn Zegna, Tahari, Missoni, Gaultier, Joseph Abboud, or other things from Neiman Marcus outlet or Saks outlet. Some of these designers range from very gay to much less gayer than Armani. I don't buy clothes to try and conceal my "gayness".