The Trans Pacific Partnership

  • tj85016

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    May 01, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
    so, nobody who has read the 2000 page trade scam is allowed to reveal it's contents publicly - YOUR CONGRESSPERSON HAS NOT READ THE TREATY

    Obama wants a fast tack vote, which means Congress votes up or down without any ability to make amendments

    the TPP is probably why that little scum bag Abe (PM of Japan) addressed a joint session of Congress last week

    some in Congress want the full text of the trade scam released before they vote on it

    or will your Congressperson just take a nice donation, keep his/her mouth shut, vote without knowing what's in it and screw you over?
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    May 01, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    or will your Congressperson just take a nice donation, keep his/her mouth shut, vote without knowing what's in it and screw you over?

    I know my congresswoman (and the one across the bay) will vote whatever the party (Obama) wants them to, and they never have to read anything. Part of being part of a machine.
  • tj85016

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    May 01, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    ^^

    or part of having no balls
  • Destinharbor

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    May 02, 2015 12:05 AM GMT
    Maybe it's good. Obama said it won't have the issues NAFTA did. The fast track authority makes some sense to me. No sovereign nation, certainly no group of nations, can reasonably be expected to guess what all the bozos in Congress are going to bitch about. If they don't like it, they can vote it down. And it will be public before the vote. Obama negotiated a good Iran treaty after all the petty grandstanding. You just dislike internationalism. Globalization. I agree but haven't heard a viable alternative theory.
  • tj85016

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    May 02, 2015 12:32 AM GMT
    It will NOT become public before the vote if they don't stop Obama and make him release the treaty specifics, Congress hasn't even read the text

    So yeah, let a few compromised "negotiators" hash it out, that makes a lot of sense. We already know Obama let them screw up healthcare with a poorly written mess

    And no, I don't support losing a single American job to provide jobs for some over-populated, polluted mess like India and China
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    May 02, 2015 1:19 AM GMT


    How come your Republicans are so silent on this, including the conservs on RJ?

    We have the same crap going on up here, but with the Conservs in charge and guess what?

    SECRECY!!!!!

    http://canadians.org/tpp


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    May 02, 2015 1:57 AM GMT
    tj85016 saidIt will NOT become public before the vote if they don't stop Obama and make him release the treaty specifics, Congress hasn't even read the text

    So yeah, let a few compromised "negotiators" hash it out, that makes a lot of sense. We already know Obama let them screw up healthcare with a poorly written mess

    And no, I don't support losing a single American job to provide jobs for some over-populated, polluted mess like India and China


    I read a huge article how Multinationals are really wanting to bring business BACK to this country. Why? The risk factors are costing them MORE in the long run.....if they had just stayed here to begin with.

    Serves the greedy corporate pigs that it isn't so glamorous to have an over seas or out of the country production lines!

    Foolish corporate CEO HOGSicon_razz.gif
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    May 02, 2015 6:37 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    How come your Republicans are so silent on this, including the conservs on RJ?

    We have the same crap going on up here, but with the Conservs in charge and guess what?

    SECRECY!!!!!

    http://canadians.org/tpp

    Here, both the democrats AND the republicans want to adopt secret trade agreements (those which they haven't even read). A decent member of Congress is a very rare thing indeed.
  • Webster666

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    May 02, 2015 7:01 AM GMT
    Nothing this secretive could be a good thing.
  • tj85016

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    May 06, 2015 9:22 PM GMT
    Obama visits Nike to tout his lousy trade deal smh

    go figure, all their crap is made in Vietnam, China and Indonesia

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/05/404476809/obama-laces-up-to-tout-asian-trade-deal-at-nike