54% Americans Say GOP Doesn't Care About Middle Class

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    May 04, 2015 3:47 AM GMT
    NYT: A Pew poll from February showed that people still believe Republicans are indifferent to working Americans: 54 percent said the Republican Party does not care about the middle class.

    Republicans in this election are emphasizing on poorer and working-class Americans now represents a shift from the party’s longstanding focus on business owners and “job creators” as the drivers of economic opportunity.

    Democrats argue that the public will ultimately see through such an approach because Republican positions like opposing a minimum-wage increase and giving private banks a larger role in student loans would hurt working Americans.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/us/politics/gop-hopefuls-now-aiming-to-woo-the-middle-class.html?ref=politicses
  • jock_1

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    May 05, 2015 4:41 PM GMT
    What is middle class?
  • tj85016

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    May 05, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
    lol as if the Democrats care about the middle class either

    so keep voting for those shitty trade treaties Dems
  • Svnw688

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    May 05, 2015 6:14 PM GMT
    46% don't know the truth.
  • Svnw688

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    May 05, 2015 6:17 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol as if the Democrats care about the middle class either

    so keep voting for those shitty trade treaties Dems


    With due respect, TJ, that is a false equivalency and a crock of sh*t.

    Admitted, the Dems could be BETTER in a normative sense, but they're a heck of a lot better than the GOP at protecting middle class interests. Just a short list:

    FLSA protections (so you get paid for work you perform)
    OSHA protections (so you don't lose an arm or leg at work)
    Discrimination protections (prevents retaliation, etc.)
    Health care (ACA and expansion of Medicare/Medicaid)
    Free Lunch Programs
    SNAP (so poor people can eat)
    Pro Union (13% higher wages for union vs non union jobs)

    If you don't think those are meat and potatoe pieces of legislation that EVERYDAY help the middle class, and that the GOP consistently opposes, then we live in different worlds.
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    May 05, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said44% don't know the truth.

    what about those 2% you just didn't even bother to mentionicon_mad.gif
  • Svnw688

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    May 05, 2015 6:20 PM GMT
    jock_1 saidWhat is middle class?


    My understanding that it is defined as a family of 4 with two incomes earning 30K to 80K.

    You can play with the numbers, and scholars do, but I think that's the general consensus. The middle 60%. 20% classified as impoverished and 20% wealthy.
  • Svnw688

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    May 05, 2015 6:20 PM GMT
    __morphic__ said
    Svnw688 said44% don't know the truth.

    what about those 2% you just didn't even bother to mentionicon_mad.gif


    LMAO, corrected. icon_cool.gif
  • bobbobbob

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    May 05, 2015 6:44 PM GMT
    It would be interesting to have that Pew poll rather than a quote about it saying 54% of Americans say the Republicans don't care about the middle class. If that were true then there would be more middle calls people claiming to be liberal than conservative, right? Not so.


    Here's a recent study that says just the opposite... complete with charts and links.

    While Republicans are more likely to identify as middle class than Democrats, a greater share said their class status has dropped since the economic crisis—12 percent, compared to 10 percent for Democrats.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americans-think-the-middle-class-is-shrinking/ar-BBiTZif?srcref=rss
  • Svnw688

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    May 05, 2015 8:06 PM GMT
    The GOP doesn't care about the middle class, just the top echelon. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Hypertrophile

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    May 05, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
    According to the PEW survey in 2009, Republican affiliation is dropping in all income quintiles.

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    Very little for the GOP to hang their hats on in this survey.

    http://www.people-press.org/2009/05/21/section-1-party-affiliation-and-composition/

  • Hypertrophile

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    May 05, 2015 10:53 PM GMT
    More recent data from PEW shows the trend continuing.

    http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

    The PEW surveys confirm the findings of the MSN survey that GOP affiliation is dropping among the middle-class and at a higher rate than the Democrats.

    All of this shows that there has been a rise in Independent voters, which is very good news for those of us who believe the current two-party system is a joke. While I think that two parties are enough, they should be beholden to the voters and not the money-people. Hopefully Bernie Sanders will make this election entirely about that issue. As far as I'm concerned, until we fix the rigged election system no other issue really matters anyway.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 05, 2015 11:06 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said46% don't know the truth.
    Neither do you idiot.icon_mad.gif
  • Hypertrophile

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    May 05, 2015 11:08 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    jock_1 saidWhat is middle class?


    My understanding that it is defined as a family of 4 with two incomes earning 30K to 80K.

    You can play with the numbers, and scholars do, but I think that's the general consensus. The middle 60%. 20% classified as impoverished and 20% wealthy.


    The PEW graph would then make the middle-class those with income between 20K and 100K.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 05, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    tj85016 saidlol as if the Democrats care about the middle class either

    so keep voting for those shitty trade treaties Dems


    With due respect, TJ, that is a false equivalency and a crock of sh*t.

    Admitted, the Dems could be BETTER in a normative sense, but they're a heck of a lot better than the GOP at protecting middle class interests. Just a short list:

    FLSA protections (so you get paid for work you perform)
    OSHA protections (so you don't lose an arm or leg at work)
    Discrimination protections (prevents retaliation, etc.)
    Health care (ACA and expansion of Medicare/Medicaid)
    Free Lunch Programs
    SNAP (so poor people can eat)
    Pro Union (13% higher wages for union vs non union jobs)

    If you don't think those are meat and potatoe pieces of legislation that EVERYDAY help the middle class, and that the GOP consistently opposes, then we live in different worlds.
    You don't know what the hell you are talking about. There is no false equivalency, the democrats and the republicans are exactly alike. Both parties are only out for their own self aggrandizement. The democrats push all kinds of meaningless, feel good legislation but it is only a false front to hide the fact that they are no different and no better than the republicans. You are just a blind sycophant to the Democratic Party.
  • tj85016

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    May 05, 2015 11:35 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said
    tj85016 saidlol as if the Democrats care about the middle class either

    so keep voting for those shitty trade treaties Dems


    With due respect, TJ, that is a false equivalency and a crock of sh*t.

    Admitted, the Dems could be BETTER in a normative sense, but they're a heck of a lot better than the GOP at protecting middle class interests. Just a short list:

    FLSA protections (so you get paid for work you perform)
    OSHA protections (so you don't lose an arm or leg at work)
    Discrimination protections (prevents retaliation, etc.)
    Health care (ACA and expansion of Medicare/Medicaid)
    Free Lunch Programs
    SNAP (so poor people can eat)
    Pro Union (13% higher wages for union vs non union jobs)

    If you don't think those are meat and potatoe pieces of legislation that EVERYDAY help the middle class, and that the GOP consistently opposes, then we live in different worlds.


    yeah the typical lame bullshit (other than OSHA) while they let 20 million jobs flee overseas to Mexico, India and China

    you are kinda clueless Svnw, you never really do see the big picture
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 06, 2015 9:43 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Svnw688 said
    tj85016 saidlol as if the Democrats care about the middle class either

    so keep voting for those shitty trade treaties Dems


    With due respect, TJ, that is a false equivalency and a crock of sh*t.

    Admitted, the Dems could be BETTER in a normative sense, but they're a heck of a lot better than the GOP at protecting middle class interests. Just a short list:

    FLSA protections (so you get paid for work you perform)
    OSHA protections (so you don't lose an arm or leg at work)
    Discrimination protections (prevents retaliation, etc.)
    Health care (ACA and expansion of Medicare/Medicaid)
    Free Lunch Programs
    SNAP (so poor people can eat)
    Pro Union (13% higher wages for union vs non union jobs)

    If you don't think those are meat and potatoe pieces of legislation that EVERYDAY help the middle class, and that the GOP consistently opposes, then we live in different worlds.


    yeah the typical lame bullshit (other than OSHA) while they let 20 million jobs flee overseas to Mexico, India and China

    you are kinda clueless Svnw, you never really do see the big picture
    He is just an old broken record, stuck on the same old shiticon_mad.gif