GOP Introduces Bill To Help Students Unlearn Evolution

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    May 09, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
    NYT: Mack Butler, a state legislator from Alabama, has introduced a bill that would “allow public school teachers to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review the scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses of all existing scientific theories covered in a science course.” If you’re confused about what that might mean, Raw Story has found this helpful explanation on Mr. Butler’s Facebook page:

    “We are trying to encourage debate to help develop critical thinking skills for our students. This will encourage debate if a student has a problem learning he came from a monkey rather than an intelligent design! Knowledge is power! Never be afraid of a healthy debate!”

    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/no-comment-necessary-saving-students-from-learning-about-evolution/?ref=opinion
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    May 10, 2015 5:01 AM GMT
    A person commented:

    It's also quite apparent than man invented 'God' and that 'God' descended from man's imagination.

    My reply:

    In some instances notions of God are man-made. The subconscious of Homo sapiens sapiens repeatedly speak of a place of the souls, spirit guides of various levels and more. Read Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Lives between Lives.

    Second, Bible knowledge is power. The Bible teaches that Jesus rejected the face of the God of Moses and did not mind being separated from the people of the God of Moses. Leviticus 17: 10 stands in the way of Jesus asking people to drink his blood or remember him metaphorically or literally that way. Jesus, then, set us free from the book of Genesis. Just youtube search WBFbySteefen and see the most recent video uploaded.

    Third, a distinction probably should be made that while we are spirits on an Earthly journey, our vehicles (bodies) have evolutionary design but the essence of what we see as body, our spirit may not have evolved in like manner.

    What does Science say about reincarnation? When we speak of "we evolved from other hominid species," the we is referring more to our spiritual identity than the vehicle of our spirit.
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    May 10, 2015 9:53 AM GMT
    StephenOABC said
    When we speak of "we evolved from other hominid species," the we is referring more to our spiritual identity than the vehicle of our spirit.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    No other word for that but to call it Bullshit.

    The "we" is referring to the ENTIRE body and mind. You cannot find one piece scientific data to corroborate this "more to our spiritual identity than the vehicle of our spirit" bullshit.

  • Hypertrophile

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    May 10, 2015 1:37 PM GMT
    "Came from a monkey"???

    Where is this? Dayton, Tennessee in 1925?
  • bobbobbob

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    May 10, 2015 4:43 PM GMT
    The 4 sentence "article" Woodsmen found for his OP doesn't tell much. Rep Mack Butler is from Rainbow City in Etowah County in NE Alabama - a place that even most Alabamians avoid. He and Etowah County are both known in the state for their reactionary christian grandstanding and failed legislation.

    Here are quotes from an Alabama source along with comments about them.
    http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/05/give_rep_butler_an_i_love_god.html

    According to NCSE, there have been 60 or so variations of this bill introduced around the country since 2004, based on a "model bill" pushed out by the pro-creationism Discovery Institute in Seattle.
    For those of you who don't know who and what The Discovery Institute is - they are the people who came up with the idea of "Intelligent Design" that was exposed as a complete hoax in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial. There are many informative videos on youtube about it. More important is DI's book "The Wedge Strategy" that outlines the fundamentalist plan for taking over the USA. It's not relevant if you take it seriously. Remember they do and the Wedge Strategy can be found in the homes and churches of most fundamentalists.

    On this very short rationalwiki page you can get a better idea of how insidious the Discovery Institute and their Wedge Strategy are.

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy

    This bill is just a waste of time in a year when Alabama legislators face real issues that need all of their time and attention, issues like how to fund state government before it implodes before our eyes, for instance.
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    May 10, 2015 5:33 PM GMT
    What business does the state have in teaching the young? We might as well all be slaves.
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    May 10, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
    IAmazeMyself said
    KJSharp saidWhat business does the state have in teaching the young? We might as well all be slaves.



    Assuming alcohol was involved in this post.

    That's intelligent design for you. There is your proof!
    Death to Darwin ! icon_mad.gif
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    May 11, 2015 5:12 AM GMT
    I don't see how people are free if the state is tasked with education. Hardly a thought that needs alcohol.

    This is why the Left hates school choice. Deep down, they know that public education is predominantly a means to increase government power and reach. The government should give every family of a child aged 6-18 $10,000/year to pay for their schooling. We don't do that, of course, because we want to crush civil institutions and make the State supreme.

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    May 11, 2015 7:35 PM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    StephenOABC said
    When we speak of "we evolved from other hominid species," the we is referring more to our spiritual identity than the vehicle of our spirit.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    No other word for that but to call it Bullshit.

    The "we" is referring to the ENTIRE body and mind. You cannot find one piece scientific data to corroborate this "more to our spiritual identity than the vehicle of our spirit" bullshit.



    It's very echoey in the bubble Stephen has squeezed himself into. Methinks he'll block you for challenging his mythology.
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    May 11, 2015 8:44 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    It's very echoey in the bubble Stephen has squeezed himself into. Methinks he'll block you for challenging his mythology.


    I assure you I lost sleep crying about that possibility.

    That would be the "normal" response from everyone who defines reality based on beliefs rather than defining their beliefs based on reality.

    I have zero problems with religion until someone confuses what they believe with reality. Belief has never created truths and never will. The few truths they purport to own all existed long before and more universally than their beliefs.