Can you understand why straight women would be turned off by bisexual men?

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    May 10, 2015 1:51 AM GMT
    The lesbian fantasy is way more popular for straight men than two men is for women. I know some women like it but not many. I never thought about it much initially, but when I put myself in a woman's position, and think about having a boyfriend as a girl, somehow I imagine I wouldn't be into that either. It kind of makes sense to me, even though as a male, a bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.
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    May 10, 2015 2:53 AM GMT
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male
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    May 10, 2015 8:01 AM GMT
    Maybe it depends what you're after?
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    May 10, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
    The reason women are not into it is because they're probably brainwashed to think that it diminishes their masculinity, because "men should only need to rely on himself". Men need love from men and women, and women need love from men and women, its a fact. Maybe not sexual forms love, but everyone needs that figure in your life. being with a man doesn't make you a girl and being with a girl doesn't make you a man, it just emphasizes a part of your gender.

    Women who say that bi men are unattractive just make men appear to be better sexual beings since most men don't care about lesbians. Ultimately I couldn't care less because the women who are turned off by it will most likely not provide anything progressive to the world anyways, and they're probably an idiot in their regular day to day life, and promote inequality.

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    May 10, 2015 7:45 PM GMT
    ryyyder said
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male


    Have you heard of the thousands of bad experiences straight people have had with gay men existing? Maybe gay people aren't worth the world's time?

    I can guarantee the gay men who have had problems with bisexual men, were probably all ignorant and just as unacceptable to a bisexual man as straight people are to gays.

    If anything that argument is the same as suggesting that all black men are violent and dangerous, when in reality they are not, they simply are conditioned to have to defend themselves every five seconds from discrimination coming at them from every direction; just the same way almost anyone does who has a different sexuality.

    Yeah human rights for alternative sexuality will definitely improve when half of their own community fighting for the above is prejudice themselves in their own way.
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    May 10, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
    ryyyder said
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male


    Yeah, but let's be honest, there are more stories about the horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with other gay guys. In fact, there are several posts where guys say they only have straight friends. So it seems that if dudes get you going, whether exclusively, or in addition to women, you're likely to be someone's horrible experience.
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    May 10, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
    ryyyder said
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male


    Wow..that's a pretty mean thing to say.
    You sound verrrrry bitter and close minded.
    Seems like a bisexual man wasn't into you and now you're all butt hurt.
  • davfit

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    May 11, 2015 12:08 AM GMT
    You both like Dick.. Women that don't are just messed up with Judging and are not worth the time of Day.. of course if the Guy looks Like (Channing Tatum)the judging goes out the window.
    Bisexual guys are the best usually they don't have the gay attitude of??? Comparing, friends approval, age ..what Car you drive. etc etc Crap)
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    May 11, 2015 12:08 AM GMT
    RealRodin said
    ryyyder said
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male


    Have you heard of the thousands of bad experiences straight people have had with gay men existing? Maybe gay people aren't worth the world's time?

    I can guarantee the gay men who have had problems with bisexual men, were probably all ignorant and just as unacceptable to a bisexual man as straight people are to gays.

    If anything that argument is the same as suggesting that all black men are violent and dangerous, when in reality they are not, they simply are conditioned to have to defend themselves every five seconds from discrimination coming at them from every direction; just the same way almost anyone does who has a different sexuality.

    Yeah human rights for alternative sexuality will definitely improve when half of their own community fighting for the above is prejudice themselves in their own way.



    I dont't care about being PC about this. Yes gay guys are whores. There are so many gay whores that its not even funny ! I could go on and on and on about gay dudes and how slutty they are. So if I know that gay guys are sluts then why would I want to complicate that with some bisexual closet case !

    Saying that "Gay people discriminating against bisexuals is just as bad as straight people discriminating against gays ", is a weak argument because bisexuals are often the ones hiding behind the scenes, cheating on their wives and girlfriends with men and vice versa. Most times its not even practical for a gay guy to enter a relationship with a bi dude because 9/10 they arent even out of the closet ! Most bisexuals dont even feel the need to come out because they think they can just play both sides. But the reason why you cannot compare the discrimination is because it is the GAY guys that suffer the consequences the most. Often times you will find that bisexuals want to be excepted by gay people but refuse to push that same argument to their straight peers. You can always find a bisexual dating a homophobic woman and having homophobic friends but god forbid a gay guy have respect for himself and his own gayness by telling the bisexual that he would rather not deal with bisexual bullshit then bisexuals cry "discrimination" and have a breakdown. But then why are they ok with dating women and almost never telling them they like men too ? I'll tell you why ! Because Bisexual people care more about the opinions of straight people than gay people and that know that most women want NOTHING do do with that type of man ( and for good reason ). They respect straights more but they expect gay people to put up with their bull shit.

    If i had a dime for every time some bicurious freak sent me a message talking about how he wanted to experiment with me I'd be RICH !

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    May 11, 2015 12:09 AM GMT
    LostSailor said
    ryyyder said
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male


    Wow..that's a pretty mean thing to say.
    You sound verrrrry bitter and close minded.
    Seems like a bisexual man wasn't into you and now you're all butt hurt.



    Close minded my ass. Dont kid yourself. when you keep getting contacted by married dudes and when you've been in the military for as long as I have then you'll know what I'm talking bout
  • doraemonlei

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    May 11, 2015 12:42 AM GMT
    just like i will b turned off if i knw the person that will do something with me is bi, i just cant help to picture the moment when he has sex with a female which will make me crazy ;/ so i guess it is the same 4 a woman too .lolicon_cool.gif
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    May 11, 2015 12:48 AM GMT
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    RealRodin said
    ryyyder said
    Marmoy said bisexual guy is just fine and maybe even a turn on.


    Have you heard the hundreds upon hundreds of horrible experiences gay guys have had on here with bisexuals ??? They are not worth the time and effort, especially if you're a gay male


    Have you heard of the thousands of bad experiences straight people have had with gay men existing? Maybe gay people aren't worth the world's time?

    I can guarantee the gay men who have had problems with bisexual men, were probably all ignorant and just as unacceptable to a bisexual man as straight people are to gays.

    If anything that argument is the same as suggesting that all black men are violent and dangerous, when in reality they are not, they simply are conditioned to have to defend themselves every five seconds from discrimination coming at them from every direction; just the same way almost anyone does who has a different sexuality.

    Yeah human rights for alternative sexuality will definitely improve when half of their own community fighting for the above is prejudice themselves in their own way.



    I dont't care about being PC about this. Yes gay guys are whores. There are so many gay whores that its not even funny ! I could go on and on and on about gay dudes and how slutty they are. So if I know that gay guys are sluts then why would I want to complicate that with some bisexual closet case !

    Saying that "Gay people discriminating against bisexuals is just as bad as straight people discriminating against gays ", is a weak argument because bisexuals are often the ones hiding behind the scenes, cheating on their wives and girlfriends with men and vice versa. Most times its not even practical for a gay guy to enter a relationship with a bi dude because 9/10 they arent even out of the closet ! Most bisexuals dont even feel the need to come out because they think they can just play both sides. But the reason why you cannot compare the discrimination is because it is the GAY guys that suffer the consequences the most. Often times you will find that bisexuals want to be excepted by gay people but refuse to push that same argument to their straight peers. You can always find a bisexual dating a homophobic woman and having homophobic friends but god forbid a gay guy have respect for himself and his own gayness by telling the bisexual that he would rather not deal with bisexual bullshit then bisexuals cry "discrimination" and have a breakdown. But then why are they ok with dating women and almost never telling them they like men too ? I'll tell you why ! Because Bisexual people care more about the opinions of straight people than gay people and that know that most women want NOTHING do do with that type of man ( and for good reason ). They respect straights more but they expect gay people to put up with their bull shit.

    If i had a dime for every time some bicurious freak sent me a message talking about how he wanted to experiment with me I'd be RICH !



    ∆ No, this is not a very PC post but you can't argue with it either. Of course not all bisexual men are this way but the vast majority of them are. My friends nicknamed me "straight bait" a long time ago because for whatever reason, the bi and bicurious guys always seem to gravitate to me. And 9 times out of 10, they are ravenous for man on man sex. They can't get enough affection until they find out they're assumptions about me are false. Number one, they assume that because I'm masculine that I fuck women too. Wrong. And number two, they assume I'm in the closet about having sex with men. Wrong again. Once these two assumptions are shattered they predictively stop calling. This is why I don't usually mess with bisexual guys anymore.
  • wellwell

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    May 11, 2015 4:02 AM GMT
    Yes, I can understand it. What I cannot understand is why gays, in general, have such seething-hatred for bi's (unless it's just simple jealousy . . . ).
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    May 11, 2015 2:02 PM GMT
    I have dated a bunch of bi guys, and yes some of them cheated on me, one slept with my best friend and left me for her! but Bi people aren't that bad! Yes some are cheaters but gay guys cheat as-well!
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    Fun_Lover saidI have dated a bunch of bi guys, and yes some of them cheated on me, one slept with my best friend and left me for her! but Bi people aren't that bad! Yes some are cheaters but gay guys cheat as-well!


    Yes but when a bi guy cheats with a woman, there's that extra level of hurt in knowing you'll never be able to compete with a woman.
  • SilverRRCloud

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    May 11, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
    Much depends on how you perceive your relationship. If you see it as a form of ownership, you do not want to date anyone who may be prone to cheating on you, i.e., anyone whose sexual orientation allows him to cheat with even more people than if he were purely str8 or purely gay.

    If you see your relationship outside the heteronormative context, and if you understand that no matter how much you may love your partner, you do not own him, his possibly bisexual proclivities are likely to be of lesser importance to you.

    Many str8 men see possibly lesbian proclivities of their female partners as something mildly attractive. Few str8 men would see their female partners as cheating on them if women only had sex among them. No cock involved - no cheating.

    This is not the case with men who are invariably seen as cheaters if they had an affair with other men. The asymmetry here is often interpreted as a result of a phallic-centered general perception of human sexuality.

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    May 11, 2015 4:52 PM GMT
    If my man is willing to be open about our relationship and affectionate in public and present me as his man to his friends and family I don't care what label he carries.
    The issue isn't if he's bi, the issue is if he is unashamed of being with me.
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    Fun_Lover saidI have dated a bunch of bi guys, and yes some of them cheated on me, one slept with my best friend and left me for her! but Bi people aren't that bad!


    No, that's unacceptable for me. I dont even know why this is still a discussion. If Bisexuals are so tired about being "discriminated" against then they should just stop trying to convince straight and gay people that we should give them a chance ! If bisexuals ant to date people then they should stick with other bisexuals ... why is that so hard ? There have been several discussions about race/preference and many of you believe there is nothing wrong with sexual exclusion or discrimination, so I see nothing wrong with having nothing to do with bisexual men.
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    May 11, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
    RealRodin saidThe reason women are not into it is because they're probably brainwashed to think that it diminishes their masculinity, because "men should only need to rely on himself". Men need love from men and women, and women need love from men and women, its a fact. Maybe not sexual forms love, but everyone needs that figure in your life. being with a man doesn't make you a girl and being with a girl doesn't make you a man, it just emphasizes a part of your gender.

    Women who say that bi men are unattractive just make men appear to be better sexual beings since most men don't care about lesbians. Ultimately I couldn't care less because the women who are turned off by it will most likely not provide anything progressive to the world anyways, and they're probably an idiot in their regular day to day life, and promote inequality.



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    May 11, 2015 6:22 PM GMT
    Ryyyder gets women way better than I do. (Tip my hat to you dude I don't try to understand)

    This conversation reminded me of the Wikipedia article I read years ago on this rejected subculture (if that's not a misnomer) the article is titled "Bisexual Erasure"
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    May 11, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
    I love bi guys. The promiscuity is a myth, but even if it wasn't, gays should totally be the last ones trying to point that finger (pot meet kettle).

    You know how a lot of bottoms lose interest in any guy that's not a total top? That's pretty much how women view bi guys. Yes, it's a double standard.
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    May 11, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
    Marmoy saidbut when I put myself in a woman's position

    I don't think that's even possible. I don't think men can come close to understanding how women think about sex because it's so different from us.

    From what I can tell, women's libido is completely different than ours. For women I think it's tied up with the guy being a potential future husband or father of their children. But for men, as a friend of mine once said, "Men are just looking for a place to squirt."
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    May 11, 2015 10:11 PM GMT
    Speaking from my own intimate experience with women, I believe that women in general are not turned off by bisexual men. What turns them off is the perceived infidelity and/or indiscriminate promiscuity of bisexual men.
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    May 11, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
    ryyyder saidI dont't care about being PC about this. Yes gay guys are whores. There are so many gay whores that its not even funny ! I could go on and on and on about gay dudes and how slutty they are. So if I know that gay guys are sluts then why would I want to complicate that with some bisexual closet case !

    Saying that "Gay people discriminating against bisexuals is just as bad as straight people discriminating against gays ", is a weak argument because bisexuals are often the ones hiding behind the scenes, cheating on their wives and girlfriends with men and vice versa. Most times its not even practical for a gay guy to enter a relationship with a bi dude because 9/10 they arent even out of the closet ! Most bisexuals dont even feel the need to come out because they think they can just play both sides. But the reason why you cannot compare the discrimination is because it is the GAY guys that suffer the consequences the most. Often times you will find that bisexuals want to be excepted by gay people but refuse to push that same argument to their straight peers. You can always find a bisexual dating a homophobic woman and having homophobic friends but god forbid a gay guy have respect for himself and his own gayness by telling the bisexual that he would rather not deal with bisexual bullshit then bisexuals cry "discrimination" and have a breakdown. But then why are they ok with dating women and almost never telling them they like men too ? I'll tell you why ! Because Bisexual people care more about the opinions of straight people than gay people and that know that most women want NOTHING do do with that type of man ( and for good reason ). They respect straights more but they expect gay people to put up with their bull shit.

    If i had a dime for every time some bicurious freak sent me a message talking about how he wanted to experiment with me I'd be RICH !


    The rage is strong in this one...yikes...

    I don't know where you get this idea that all these terrible things are "most often" committed by bi guys because I guarantee all this info you've gathered has been anecdotal, which means nothing.

    Also, I don't think it makes much sense that bi guys are more often the cheaters, when to this day gay men are selfishly getting married to women fully knowing that they will never feel for them in a way that a straight man would. If a bi guy wants monogamy, then he would be happy with just one woman or one man. Take that situation and compare it to someone who is fully masking their sexuality as a means to conform.

    As for this idea that straight women would be turned off by a bisexual, I don't see it as any more or less common than gay guys being turned off by it as well, proportionally speaking. If there is any reason to believe this, it's likely because there are more straight woman in the world then gay men, so there are more opportunities to be turned down.