Civil War/Revolution because of Gay Marriage; Should the Fed Government Take the Hate Crime Potential Seriously?

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    May 11, 2015 2:51 AM GMT
    Last week, Matt Barber said that a Supreme Court ruling in favor of gay marriage would spark a revolution and today, his website BarbWire published a column from Timothy Buchanan similarly predicting that “it would be difficult to see how the wrong decision here will not result in a second American civil war.”

    - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/far-right-pundit-gay-marriage-will-lead-civil-war#sthash.NBHXYISX.dpuf

    James Dobson, the founder of the Religious Right behemoth Focus on the Family, warned in a recent conference call with fellow anti-gay activists that a Supreme Court ruling in favor of marriage equality could lead to a full-blown civil war.

    After Janet Porter, the creator of a new “documentary” about how the gay rights movement will outlaw Christianity, discussed her “restraining order” campaign to convince Congress to strip the Supreme Court of its authority to rule on marriage cases, Dobson said that his fellow activists “need to be realistic about what we’re up against here.”

    He said that the gay rights issue has reached an unprecedented “level of intensity” and put the country on the brink of conflict: “Talk about a Civil War, we could have another one over this.”

    - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/james-dobson-gay-marriage-will-lead-civil-war#sthash.6e2rftCA.dpuf

    Alan Keyes writes in WorldNetDaily today that a ruling in favor of gay rights will “be just cause for war.”

    - See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/alan-keyes-gay-marriage-ruling-just-cause-war#sthash.OSQZVIDP.dpuf

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    What must be the result of this?

    Military Preparedness: Jade Helm 15

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    Texas Governor Greg Abbott responds to federal military preparedness by announcing he was ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor a Navy SEAL/Green Beret joint training exercise, which was taking place in "hostile" states Texas and Utah and several states not labeled hostile but uncertain - learning hostile, uncertain - leaning friendly, and permissive.

    U.S. Congressman Louie Gohmert said hostile areas
    - have Republican majority
    - cling to guns and religion
    - believe in the sanctity of the U.S. Constitution

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    Can the anti-gay marriage camp get as destructive against gays as the anti-civil rights for Blacks camp got destructive against Blacks?

    If Matt Barber, James Dobson, and Alan Keyes had not fanned the flames, we wouldn't be concerned.



  • hebrewman

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    May 13, 2015 8:52 AM GMT
    FINE. BRING. IT. ON!
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 13, 2015 12:50 PM GMT
    Well let's just do the US a long overdue favor by permanently kicking Texas out of the Union and permit it to become a fanatical, right wing, theocratic republic. Texans don't consider themselves Americans anyways so it is time to set the lone star shithole free forever and ever amen. The OP needs to get out of DFW and head back up north or out west. He is obviously too educated, too sophisticated, and too refined for the average Texan. Please come back home to the "real America".
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    May 13, 2015 3:08 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWell let's just do the US a long overdue favor by permanently kicking Texas out of the Union and permit it to become a fanatical, right wing, theocratic republic. Texans don't consider themselves Americans anyways so it is time to set the lone star shithole free forever and ever amen. The OP needs to get out of DFW and head back up north or out west. He is obviously too educated, too sophisticated, and too refined for the average Texan. Please come back home to the "real America".


    Thank you, roadbikeRob.

    Easier said than done.

    Let's say, back in 2006-2008 when I had been in NYC for more than 20 years, I had a good gay friend.
    I moved to Texas for obligations to parents and brother.

    Finally, this year, my good gay friend moved to South Carolina for obligations to his remaining parent and followed his brother who also lived in NYC. My good gay friend being over 60 but not yet 66 or 67, found NYC (Queens) rent of $1,600/mo. a little too expensive.

    Long story short: single men over the age of 52 are vulnerable in the job market which makes surviving NYC risky.

  • bobbobbob

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    May 13, 2015 6:21 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWell let's just do the US a long overdue favor by permanently kicking Texas out of the Union and permit it to become a fanatical, right wing, theocratic republic. Texans don't consider themselves Americans anyways so it is time to set the lone star shithole free forever and ever amen. The OP needs to get out of DFW and head back up north or out west. He is obviously too educated, too sophisticated, and too refined for the average Texan. Please come back home to the "real America".


    ^^^^^^^^
    This type of irrational thinking is a total waste of time and words and should be avoided. Stop talking like you're auditioning for a job as a talking head for a news channel.

    You're talking about Texans as if they are all clones of some neolithic religious nutsacks with arsensals of weapons to start killing gays. That makes you guilty of the same type of wholesale stereotyping fundamentalists do when they talk about gays. Have you forgotten that way over half the people of Texas want nothing to do with the religious extremists? Have you forgotten that three cities there have passed ordinances preventing discrimination against gays? Have you forgotten there are many thousand gays who call Texas home?

    Did you know that since 1996 Texas has been ground zero for a revolt within the Southern Baptist Convention with individual congregations voting to leave it in order to be inclusive of gays?
    I have dear lesbian friends from 1986 who live in an affluent suburb of Dallas who've been attending the first MEGA church to leave the Baptist Convention since 1996. I've been there and attended services and was amazed. Here's a link about one from 2010. I'll hvae more links later today.
    http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=110370

    In the media world in which "if it bleeds it leads " dominates news important things like that are not given coverage or are lost between reports of kardashinenners having sex changes.. gays making a big fucking deal about a goddamned rinky dink pizza shop that won't cater gay wedding like there are gays who'd actually serve lame ass pizza at their friggin wedding ... and a fucking closet hot bodied republican congressman closet case who decorated his Washington office like a piss-elegant whorehouse....

    I'm closing this and will be back with some constructive insight on this later.








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    May 14, 2015 12:09 AM GMT
    bobbobbob saidI'm closing this and will be back with some constructive insight on this later.

    During your formative writing period, no doubt.
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 14, 2015 12:53 AM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    roadbikeRob saidWell let's just do the US a long overdue favor by permanently kicking Texas out of the Union and permit it to become a fanatical, right wing, theocratic republic. Texans don't consider themselves Americans anyways so it is time to set the lone star shithole free forever and ever amen. The OP needs to get out of DFW and head back up north or out west. He is obviously too educated, too sophisticated, and too refined for the average Texan. Please come back home to the "real America".


    ^^^^^^^^
    This type of irrational thinking is a total waste of time and words and should be avoided. Stop talking like you're auditioning for a job as a talking head for a news channel.

    You're talking about Texans as if they are all clones of some neolithic religious nutsacks with arsensals of weapons to start killing gays. That makes you guilty of the same type of wholesale stereotyping fundamentalists do when they talk about gays. Have you forgotten that way over half the people of Texas want nothing to do with the religious extremists? Have you forgotten that three cities there have passed ordinances preventing discrimination against gays? Have you forgotten there are many thousand gays who call Texas home?

    Did you know that since 1996 Texas has been ground zero for a revolt within the Southern Baptist Convention with individual congregations voting to leave it in order to be inclusive of gays?


    I have dear lesbian friends from 1986 who live in an affluent suburb of Dallas who've been attending the first MEGA church to leave the Baptist Convention since 1996. I've been there and attended services and was amazed. Here's a link about one from 2010. I'll hvae more links later today.
    http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=110370

    In the media world in which "if it bleeds it leads " dominates news important things like that are not given coverage or are lost between reports of kardashinenners having sex changes.. gays making a big fucking deal about a goddamned rinky dink pizza shop that won't cater gay wedding like there are gays who'd actually serve lame ass pizza at their friggin wedding ... and a fucking closet hot bodied republican congressman closet case who decorated his Washington office like a piss-elegant whorehouse....

    I'm closing this and will be back with some constructive insight on this later.








    Well what I said is the absolute truth about Texas. The mass majority of Texans are right wing lunatics who love their guns, pickup trucks, and King James bibles. Even within their big, major cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Fort Worth the right wing lunacy is quite prevalent despite the increasing diversity of the population of these four cities. Texas is definitely America's backward banana republic. I should know because I used to live in that hot, flat, depressing state.
  • KissTheSky

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    May 14, 2015 1:05 AM GMT
    Talking about "justifiable" wars against gay people is how conservatives fan the flames of violence against gay Americans. It's the same old story.
    Hate crimes will probably increase as mentally ill and/or drunk rednecks go on violent sprees... but most of them will be slapped into prison and life will go on just fine without these human waste products.
    The same dire predictions were made in every state where gay marriage was legalized, including my own. The homophobic conservatives were proven wrong yet again as the sky did not fall and they had to slink off in shame to hatch their next hate campaign against another minority group.
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    May 14, 2015 1:30 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    bobbobbob said
    roadbikeRob saidWell let's just do the US a long overdue favor by permanently kicking Texas out of the Union and permit it to become a fanatical, right wing, theocratic republic. Texans don't consider themselves Americans anyways so it is time to set the lone star shithole free forever and ever amen. The OP needs to get out of DFW and head back up north or out west. He is obviously too educated, too sophisticated, and too refined for the average Texan. Please come back home to the "real America".


    ^^^^^^^^
    This type of irrational thinking is a total waste of time and words and should be avoided. Stop talking like you're auditioning for a job as a talking head for a news channel.

    You're talking about Texans as if they are all clones of some neolithic religious nutsacks with arsensals of weapons to start killing gays. That makes you guilty of the same type of wholesale stereotyping fundamentalists do when they talk about gays. Have you forgotten that way over half the people of Texas want nothing to do with the religious extremists? Have you forgotten that three cities there have passed ordinances preventing discrimination against gays? Have you forgotten there are many thousand gays who call Texas home?

    Did you know that since 1996 Texas has been ground zero for a revolt within the Southern Baptist Convention with individual congregations voting to leave it in order to be inclusive of gays?


    I have dear lesbian friends from 1986 who live in an affluent suburb of Dallas who've been attending the first MEGA church to leave the Baptist Convention since 1996. I've been there and attended services and was amazed. Here's a link about one from 2010. I'll hvae more links later today.
    http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=110370

    In the media world in which "if it bleeds it leads " dominates news important things like that are not given coverage or are lost between reports of kardashinenners having sex changes.. gays making a big fucking deal about a goddamned rinky dink pizza shop that won't cater gay wedding like there are gays who'd actually serve lame ass pizza at their friggin wedding ... and a fucking closet hot bodied republican congressman closet case who decorated his Washington office like a piss-elegant whorehouse....

    I'm closing this and will be back with some constructive insight on this later.








    Well what I said is the absolute truth about Texas. The mass majority of Texans are right wing lunatics who love their guns, pickup trucks, and King James bibles. Even within their big, major cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Fort Worth the right wing lunacy is quite prevalent despite the increasing diversity of the population of these four cities. Texas is definitely America's backward banana republic. I should know because I used to live in that hot, flat, depressing state.


    It's my understanding that Houston is more socially conservative than DFW.
  • bobbobbob

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    May 14, 2015 1:28 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWell let's just do the US a long overdue favor by permanently kicking Texas out of the Union and permit it to become a fanatical, right wing, theocratic republic. Texans don't consider themselves Americans anyways so it is time to set the lone star shithole free forever and ever amen. The OP needs to get out of DFW and head back up north or out west. He is obviously too educated, too sophisticated, and too refined for the average Texan. Please come back home to the "real America".

    roadbikeRob said Well what I said is the absolute truth about Texas. The mass majority of Texans are right wing lunatics who love their guns, pickup trucks, and King James bibles. Even within their big, major cities like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Fort Worth the right wing lunacy is quite prevalent despite the increasing diversity of the population of these four cities. Texas is definitely America's backward banana republic. I should know because I used to live in that hot, flat, depressing state.[/quote]
    ^^^^^^
    This type thinking makes you no better than the people you're talking about. You're painting with a yard wide brush. stereotyping. If one of them starts talking about "all gays" the way you're talking about "all Texans" you'd have your panties all up in a wad. More importantly this type of talk is a counterproductive distraction from any efforts to actually do something about the problems. If you don't believe it, then get your ass busy kicking Texas out of the Union and see what a fool you are for saying it.

    StephenOABC said It's my understanding that Houston is more socially conservative than DFW.

    ^^^^^
    Is that what you've heard from friends, acquaintances or just from random others?