Analysis Proves Yet Again 60% Of Fox "News" Programming is FALSE.

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    May 12, 2015 7:23 PM GMT
    http://www.mintpressnews.com/pants-on-fire-analysis-shows-60-of-fox-news-facts-are-really-lies/205563/

    It's been proved yet again that the Fox infotainment channel gets 60% of their "facts" wrong.
    The only question is - do they get their "facts" wrong because of sloppy journalism - or do they DELIBERATELY lie to their brainwashed misinformed viewers?

    And whatever the cause is - what kind of a loser would choose to tune in to Fox and be lied to 24-7?
  • Hypertrophile

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    May 13, 2015 12:43 AM GMT
    I think it's a combination of both intentional distortion and sloppy journalism. The on-screen graphics gaffs for example are pretty frequent. That's pretty sloppy. The Asiana jetliner that crashed in San Francisco had a crew with names reported by a Fox affiliate as "Sum Ting Wong," "Wi Tu Lo," "Ho Lee Fuk," and "Bang Ding Ow" was the height of unprofessionalism. Someone couldn't put two seconds of thought into this before putting it up on the prompter? Even the Pretty Girl News Anchor could have read ahead just a little bit to see the list was a gag. Just shows how mindless the on-air "talent" can be.

    Of course this was an affiliate and not FNC, but they have had their share of gaffs too.

    Keep in mind that, while employees of news organizations are beholden to the truth, though few are held accountable by their employer or the FCC, "guest experts" have no such responsibility. These are the ones whose words you have to parse with extra care.
  • Destinharbor

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    May 13, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
    There's a mean-spiritedness about the channel. I cross over FOX on the treadmill at the gym while surfing the channels and occasionally stop for a minute just out of curiosity. It really is shocking how MOST of the time, they're just being ugly about something. No analysis or fact being discussed, just being nasty. I guess people who have that kind of personality just get into it and love to finally be given permission to not even try to be fair or balanced or nice. I think that a big percentage of people feel like they've been given a bad hand in life or they've been screwed over by a boss or partner or whatever. And they have found a group that sounds just like them. Everyone loves company. The sad thing is they're empowering the very people who are screwing them over.
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    May 13, 2015 6:19 PM GMT
    The_Polaris saidAnd whatever the cause is - what kind of a loser would choose to tune in to Fox and be lied to 24-7?
    The kind of loser who lives a miserable life and doesn't want to know the truth.
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    May 13, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThere's a mean-spiritedness about the channel. I cross over FOX on the treadmill at the gym while surfing the channels and occasionally stop for a minute just out of curiosity. It really is shocking how MOST of the time, they're just being ugly about something. No analysis or fact being discussed, just being nasty. I guess people who have that kind of personality just get into it and love to finally be given permission to not even try to be fair or balanced or nice. I think that a big percentage of people feel like they've been given a bad hand in life or they've been screwed over by a boss or partner or whatever. And they have found a group that sounds just like them. Everyone loves company. The sad thing is they're empowering the very people who are screwing them over.


    You're absolutely right about the nastiness. Its something i've never really been able to comprehend. It's just really hard for me to understand the mentality of people who get pleasure or satisfaction out of ridiculing others. Maybe it's because I was bullied so badly as a kid, but I just wish we could all be who we want to be without worrying what anyone might say.
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    May 13, 2015 7:32 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidThere's a mean-spiritedness about the channel. I cross over FOX on the treadmill at the gym while surfing the channels and occasionally stop for a minute just out of curiosity. It really is shocking how MOST of the time, they're just being ugly about something. No analysis or fact being discussed, just being nasty. I guess people who have that kind of personality just get into it and love to finally be given permission to not even try to be fair or balanced or nice. I think that a big percentage of people feel like they've been given a bad hand in life or they've been screwed over by a boss or partner or whatever. And they have found a group that sounds just like them. Everyone loves company. The sad thing is they're empowering the very people who are screwing them over.



    Yes, the nastiness of the programming & the on-air personalities is stunning.
    The people who run Fox and who host shows on Fox are extremely well-paid people who live lives of luxury and privilege.
    But they're full of bitterness and hate.
    And its been proven that they're willing to LIE to try to get their viewers as bitter and full of hate as they are.

    I wonder how they can live with themselves given the awfulness of what they do for a living - but obviously some people will sell their soul for the right price.



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    May 13, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
    If you meet a lot of people, as I do, you soon realize the people who watch Fox or listen to talk radio are never intelligent or creative. The world is filled with billions of people, a vast majority of them are drones and fleshy zombies. These sloths may dress appropriately, but in the end, they are dumb and banal.
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    May 14, 2015 3:22 AM GMT
    You can blame Fox, because yeah, their opinion shows (separate from their "straight" news) is pretty balls-out right-wing propaganda. Fox is the Wal-Mart of infotainment programming.

    But I'm also unimpressed by our electorate. Stupid, stupid people made Kim Kardashian famous, revel in the trainwreck lives of Honey Boo Boo and her clan (don't even talk to me about the Duggers), and drown their miserable lives in greasy fast food.

    Almost like Fox was inevitable. Like MRSA. Because we try to treat every runny nose with antibiotics--and every news story like it's a world-ending terrorist attack.
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    May 14, 2015 4:17 AM GMT
    People watch Fox because they report news that Liberals don't want reported such as this Baltimore beating of a man by a group of teens:



    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/08/dundalk-man-violently-beaten-by-group-of-teens/

    The national Liberal news media lies by omission, leaving out facts and events to support their narrative.

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    May 14, 2015 6:14 AM GMT
    Yes, of course Fox does report stories like the one above - because it pushes their racist narrative - and Fox is all about playing the race card.
    After all, there's a black Democrat in the White House - and it's Fox's job to attack Democrats.

    Any story that can be twisted into an attack on Democrats - Fox will cover.
    Any story that plays the race card and riles up white Repub voters - Fox will cover.
    And if the propaganda crew on Fox have to make up lies to attack Democrats and anger their white Repub viewers - its been repeatedly proven they're more than willing to do that too.

    Fox is definitely the place to go if you want to fed a steady diet of pro-Repub spin, BS, and lies.
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    May 14, 2015 12:25 PM GMT
    My perception of Fox "news" is that its role is more to evangelize than to report. They report exactly what their viewers *want* to hear, and reinforce their world views. It gives its viewers vindication and confirmation. It closely resembles religious dogmatism -- "facts" from non-believers are seen as heresy and dismissed.

    There is a lot of anger and even hostility on the right of the political spectrum. The causes of this anger would probably fill a lengthy dissertation, but it seems to includes a nostalgic longing for "how things used to be, back in the good ol' days," but often those recollections are entirely idealized.

    According to the study, Fox gets things right (no pun intended) about 40% of the time. Okay, that's probably correct. It is the other 60% that should be troubling to any objective, well-reasoned individual. The framers of the constitution ensured freedom of the press, because they believed that an *informed* electorate was essential for a robust and effective democracy. A deliberately *misinformed* electorate is, in a word, un-American.
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    May 14, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
    robbaker saidExactly. Where's al Sharpton to call out and denounce what them black teens did ? But black lives matters.


    Explain please
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    May 14, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidPeople watch Fox because they report news that Liberals don't want reported such as this Baltimore beating of a man by a group of teens:



    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/08/dundalk-man-violently-beaten-by-group-of-teens/

    The national Liberal news media lies by omission, leaving out facts and events to support their narrative.


    Spot on, mx5. I watch a variety of news sources between 5:30 and 7 p.m. local time, including FNC, NBC, ABC, BBC and - just to make sure I get my money's worth, if not a few laughs - PBS. Hell, I'll even tune into MSNBC every now and then, especially when there's a story that'll have Rachel Madcow stretching her udder, like last November's election results. Sure FNC makes mistakes, but intelligent, truly open minded people who compare sources know when they do - and that all the other networks and news sources do, too. What's that line about diversity again?

    As for Mint Press, another wannabe left-wing outfit that reports the news "through the lens of social justice" badmouthing FNC? Yawn.
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    May 14, 2015 7:44 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidPeople watch Fox because they report news that Liberals don't want reported such as this Baltimore beating of a man by a group of teens:



    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/08/dundalk-man-violently-beaten-by-group-of-teens/

    The national Liberal news media lies by omission, leaving out facts and events to support their narrative.



    I'm confused. You said people watch Fox because they want to see stories like the one reported by CBS?

    Or was that an example of "liberal" media leaving out facts? What facts pertinent to the story were omitted, and how are they pertinent?
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    May 14, 2015 7:49 PM GMT
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    mx5guynj saidPeople watch Fox because they report news that Liberals don't want reported such as this Baltimore beating of a man by a group of teens:



    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/08/dundalk-man-violently-beaten-by-group-of-teens/

    The national Liberal news media lies by omission, leaving out facts and events to support their narrative.


    Spot on, mx5. I watch a variety of news sources between 5:30 and 7 p.m. local time, including FNC, NBC, ABC, BBC and - just to make sure I get my money's worth, if not a few laughs - PBS. Hell, I'll even tune into MSNBC every now and then, especially when there's a story that'll have Rachel Madcow stretching her udder, like last November's election results. Sure FNC makes mistakes, but intelligent, truly open minded people who compare sources know when they do - and that all the other networks and news sources do, too. What's that line about diversity again?

    As for Mint Press, another wannabe left-wing outfit that reports the news "through the lens of social justice" badmouthing FNC? Yawn.




    "a story that'll have Rachel Madcow stretching her udder"?

    FYI - "intelligent, truly open-minded people" don't engage in pathetic childish name-calling like ^ - even when referring to people who they don't agree with.

    Which is why folks on here rightly discard your posts as the raving of a truly closed-minded Repub partisan.

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    May 15, 2015 3:16 AM GMT
    NYT: In 2004, Bill O’Reilly, arguably the face of Fox News, said: “You gotta look people in the eye and tell ‘em they’re irresponsible and lazy. And who’s gonna wanna do that? Because that’s what poverty is, ladies and gentlemen. In this country, you can succeed if you get educated and work hard. Period. Period.”

    In 2012, O’Reilly listed what he called the “true causes of poverty” including “poor education, addiction, irresponsible behavior and laziness.”

    In 2014, during the week that marked the 50th anniversary of L.B.J.’s “War on Poverty,” O’Reilly again said that “true poverty” (as opposed to make-believe poverty?) “is being driven by personal behavior,” which included, according to him, “addictive behavior, laziness, apathy.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/14/opinion/charles-blow-the-president-fox-news-the-poor.html?ref=opinion
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    May 15, 2015 5:32 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidNYT: In 2004, Bill O’Reilly, arguably the face of Fox News, said: “You gotta look people in the eye and tell ‘em they’re irresponsible and lazy. And who’s gonna wanna do that? Because that’s what poverty is, ladies and gentlemen. In this country, you can succeed if you get educated and work hard. Period. Period.”

    In 2012, O’Reilly listed what he called the “true causes of poverty” including “poor education, addiction, irresponsible behavior and laziness.”

    In 2014, during the week that marked the 50th anniversary of L.B.J.’s “War on Poverty,” O’Reilly again said that “true poverty” (as opposed to make-believe poverty?) “is being driven by personal behavior,” which included, according to him, “addictive behavior, laziness, apathy.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/14/opinion/charles-blow-the-president-fox-news-the-poor.html?ref=opinion


    Though avid - and rabid - readers of these FNC threads will recall that I don't buy into everything O'Reilly, or anyone else on FNC, says, I don't disagree w/ any of his above opinions, and I thank him for having the courage to state them against the permissive tide that would wash them away. But, if O'Reilly's the face of FNC, which is by no means established, then surely Sean Hannity's its nether end.
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    May 15, 2015 11:20 PM GMT
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    woodsmen saidNYT: In 2004, Bill O’Reilly, arguably the face of Fox News, said: “You gotta look people in the eye and tell ‘em they’re irresponsible and lazy. And who’s gonna wanna do that? Because that’s what poverty is, ladies and gentlemen. In this country, you can succeed if you get educated and work hard. Period. Period.”

    In 2012, O’Reilly listed what he called the “true causes of poverty” including “poor education, addiction, irresponsible behavior and laziness.”

    In 2014, during the week that marked the 50th anniversary of L.B.J.’s “War on Poverty,” O’Reilly again said that “true poverty” (as opposed to make-believe poverty?) “is being driven by personal behavior,” which included, according to him, “addictive behavior, laziness, apathy.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/14/opinion/charles-blow-the-president-fox-news-the-poor.html?ref=opinion


    Though avid - and rabid - readers of these FNC threads will recall that I don't buy into everything O'Reilly, or anyone else on FNC, says, I don't disagree w/ any of his above opinions, and I thank him for having the courage to state them against the permissive tide that would wash them away. But, if O'Reilly's the face of FNC, which is by no means established, then surely Sean Hannity's its nether end.


    Mmm... I disagree with his statements because they are incomplete on purpose. Sure, it's perfectly possible that a person can "make their own bed" with horrible life decisions when they have opportunities for better; however, he blatantly refuses to mention other structural (can't think of a better word, there probably is one) problems that are HUGE contributors to poverty (lack of opportunity in many cases, systemic (maybe that's the word I wanted...) justice/economic/political bias against the poor in general, etc.

    In short, his statements boil down to "if you're not lazy you can get rich" (well maybe not rich but you get the point), and contrary to the GOP's talking points, it's not always as easy as not being lazy and making good choices. Just because we claim to strive as a nation for something called the "American Dream" doesn't mean it's a reality or plausibility for every person right now.