Life is ruled by fortune, not wisdom. - Theophrastus

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    May 14, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
    Theophrastus was a student of Plato and Aristotle.
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    May 14, 2015 2:47 PM GMT
    And Theophrastus was wrong, regardless of whether he was Aristotle's successor at the Peripatetic school. Fortune & wisdom are 2 elements that play a part in everyone's life. For some "wisdom" is more on the order of smarts & cleverness. Hence the anomaly of the Kardashians. But was Albert Einstein a product of fortune? Or Stephen Hawking?

    But good timing (fortune) never hurts, either. For instance:

    "As a 16-year-old student at Hollywood High School, [Lana] Turner skipped a typing class and bought a Coke at the Top Hat Malt Shop located on the southeast corner of Sunset Boulevard and McCadden Place (not Schwab's Pharmacy, as is commonly believed and reported), where she was spotted by William R. Wilkerson, publisher of The Hollywood Reporter. Wilkerson was attracted by her beauty and physique, and referred her to the actor/comedian/talent agent Zeppo Marx [brother to Groucho Marx]. Marx's agency immediately signed her on and introduced her to film director Mervyn LeRoy, who cast her in her first film, They Won't Forget (1937)."

    Turner went on to become one of the greatest Hollywood stars of the 1940s and early '50s.

    So I call it a mix. Fortune & wisdom can each play their parts.
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    May 14, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
    Would that be the Passive Theophrastus as opposed to the passive periphrastic?
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    May 15, 2015 3:32 PM GMT
    Will the real Lana Turner please sit down...

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    PS That's Betty Grable up there, Bob.
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    May 17, 2015 4:28 AM GMT
    The philosophers are not kings in the U.S., China, Russia, etc.
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    May 17, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
    Yes, Einstein and Hawking were the recipients of good fortune. Not everyone is given their intellect. They were also fortunate enough to have been born in a time and place where their intellects were nurtured and developed. I doubt seriously either would have gone on to become great physicists had they. been born in the jungles of Papua New Guinea.
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    May 18, 2015 12:21 AM GMT
    StephenOABC Are you challenging us to think about fate, or perhaps the limited power we have over our physical lives?

    Like Aristotle I think the better part of wisdom is understanding the doctrine of the mean. Life itself is like that - we do not have absolute control of the world around us, or every illness or disease, or our ultimate fate. That one is easy: we die.

    But we are not powerless either, and we have responsibilities as intelligent creatures to stay as healthy as we can, to live productive lives, to balance provision for tomorrow with pleasure today. And to be smart enough to recognize what is beyond our control - call me stoic.

    I think Theo's remark is cynical. There's much more to life than what the Fates ultimately hand us.

    But if one is a fatalist, hey: might as well burn the candle at both ends while Rome burns.
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    May 18, 2015 12:51 AM GMT
    bon_pan saidWill the real Lana Turner please sit down...

    lanat14.jpg

    PS That's Betty Grable up there, Bob.

    Yikes! Thanks, I took that pic from a photo batch brought up in a search for Turner. I should have known better, though I must say I never watched many of either Turner's or Grable's movies.
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    May 18, 2015 12:45 PM GMT
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    StephenOABC,

    Are you challenging us to think about fate, or perhaps the limited power we have over our physical lives?

    Stephenoabc

    Sir, no.

    Saying we do not have philosopher-kings but kings of fortune re-expresses exactly the resolution. How wise are the 1% of the United States?

    Second, it is a personal message to me. When I left living under a Venus angle beam of heaven to live under a Saturn angle beam of heaven, I chose more wisdom than fortune. It has been six years now.

    With wisdom, one must learn from Saturn:

    - spending time (in the same city) with parents age 76 and older during this six year time span

    - learning what it is like to be 76 and older

    - cutting back on nice-to-haves and non-essentials

    (to be continued)
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    May 18, 2015 2:19 PM GMT
    Fascinating.
    I am watching to read more. Thank you.
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    May 19, 2015 1:54 AM GMT
    oldfart saidFascinating.
    I am watching to read more. Thank you.


    Long story short:

    Life on Earth is ruled by fortune, not wisdom.
    Life with Life between incarnations is ruled by wisdom and excellence. That is important for old souls.

    Socrates was a pious man. He cared about wisdom. In one of the Platonic dialogues, he said he would have to speak for himself in the afterlife before Apollo--a place and time before returning to Earth given one chose to return to Earth.

    People speak of bad Christianity with its God that judges you after you die. What, 399 years before Christ, Socrates, in sincere piety, was cognizant of the wisdom of being responsible for one's life and society that should he, when he, passed onto another plane of existence, he would not have lived without wisdom; and, that would be a virtue.
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    May 19, 2015 1:56 AM GMT
    To gain the whole fortune of this world,
    but lose the soul that survives this world...

    Prepare for one's personal apocalypse.
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    May 19, 2015 1:59 AM GMT
    And, is it better for this world that we have people living in a manner that their lives will have been watched by Others on the Other Side?

    To make an effort to have a good report for this life IS good.
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    May 19, 2015 2:26 AM GMT
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    Recently David Brooks came out with a book he's been plugging: The Road to Character. In it he speaks about resume virtues vs. eulogy virtues.

    One's eulogy is not a thorough judgement of a human's life. His book does not go far enough.

    Let's say 90 days after one's death. One is in the place of the souls. THEN one reflects on one's incarnation. You're in the presence of others wanting to talk about the same thing. You find there are those older (old souls) than you, more advanced/sophisticated--guides, nurturers, police, those who keep order in that realm. Would there really be anarchy in the afterlife?