Jamaica: Mob beats schoolboys caught in threesome

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    May 16, 2015 1:27 AM GMT
    With Clarendon still reeling from the brutal execution style murder of three teenagers last month, the parish was given another shocker when three teenage boys were caught red-handed having a threesome.

    The three, two from a prominent high school in May Pen and the other a recent graduate, were literally caught with their pants down on the grounds of the Denbigh showground in May Pen, THE WEEKEND STAR understands.

    It is understood that the three displayed their sexual dexterity before a mob held and gave them a severe beating.

    However, amid the melee, all three boys escaped, minus their clothes, after running away and jumping the wall of a nearby school.

    A source at the May Pen police confirmed hearing about the incident, but said no official report has been made.

    "Me say, suppose you see the three nasty boy dem how dem look good. Suppose you see the size dem weh them have?

    Translation:

    "My word, you should have seen the three nasty boys and how good looking they were. You should have seen the size of their penis."

    Source: http://jamaica-star.com/thestar/20150515/news/news1.html
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    May 16, 2015 1:28 AM GMT
    Looks like silly season again in Jamaica. Blame the IMF, people don't have anything productive to do it seems.
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    May 16, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
    Ironically, I just saw a license plate frame today that read "I <3 Jamaica."
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    May 16, 2015 6:05 AM GMT
    Boys will be boys.

    But blame the IMF ??? Financial life is hard in lots of places in the world, where they don't have a local pastime of beating up gay people.

    Being gay there, must be difficult - if not outright dangerous.



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    May 16, 2015 6:40 PM GMT
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    HikerSkier saidBoys will be boys.

    But blame the IMF ??? Financial life is hard in lots of places in the world, where they don't have a local pastime of beating up gay people.

    Being gay there, must be difficult - if not outright dangerous.

    same thing could be said about the united states and any part of the world.


    No, not for almost anywhere in Europe, the UK, Scandinavia, Canada, and most urban areas of the US.
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    May 16, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    HikerSkier saidBoys will be boys.

    But blame the IMF ??? Financial life is hard in lots of places in the world, where they don't have a local pastime of beating up gay people.

    Being gay there, must be difficult - if not outright dangerous.





    same thing could be said about the united states and any part of the world.



    WHAT?!? Apologies, but no. Heavens, Pazzy!
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    May 17, 2015 1:52 PM GMT

    Erm, Pazzy, you'd have to show me a post where someone says all people in Jamaica are fucked up. I certainly did NOT. My family, both sides, are from there and some still live there. It is a terrible place for gays and comparing to other countries as equal in terms of bad stuff happening doesn't fly with me. The US and Canada have far vaster populations. You should consider the size and frequency of hate in relation to population for starters.


    I'm not sure why you're bringing straights' crimes of passion in Canada etc into this. It's about the treatment of people suspected of being gay in Jamaica.
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    pazzy said
    HikerSkier saidBoys will be boys.

    But blame the IMF ??? Financial life is hard in lots of places in the world, where they don't have a local pastime of beating up gay people.

    Being gay there, must be difficult - if not outright dangerous.





    same thing could be said about the united states and any part of the world.


    A recent survey found that 82 percent of Jamaicans consider homosexuality “morally wrong,” and 85 percent do not think it should be made legal.

    Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/28/jamaicas-abominable-crime_n_3516123.html

    In America, 60% accept it, while 33% are against it.

    Source: http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2014/05/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Homosexuality-Report-REVISED-MAY-27-2014.pdf

    Population of Jamaica: 2.7 million
    Population of America: 315 million

    2.2 million Jamaicans, which is basically the majority of the country, think I should be in prison.

    189,000,000 million Americans don't have a problem with who I am?

    Seriously, I would rather take my chances living in America.
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    May 18, 2015 2:29 AM GMT
    Jamaica has an intensely homophobic culture and it is very deeply rooted to the point where it is tradition. The United States isn't 100% free of homophobia, but it's still a better place than Jamaica.
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    May 18, 2015 5:43 AM GMT
    pazzy said
    PaulDee said
    pazzy said
    HikerSkier saidBoys will be boys.

    But blame the IMF ??? Financial life is hard in lots of places in the world, where they don't have a local pastime of beating up gay people.

    Being gay there, must be difficult - if not outright dangerous.





    same thing could be said about the united states and any part of the world.


    A recent survey found that 82 percent of Jamaicans consider homosexuality “morally wrong,” and 85 percent do not think it should be made legal.

    Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/28/jamaicas-abominable-crime_n_3516123.html

    In America, 60% accept it, while 33% are against it.

    Source: http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2014/05/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Homosexuality-Report-REVISED-MAY-27-2014.pdf

    Population of Jamaica: 2.7 million
    Population of America: 315 million

    2.2 million Jamaicans, which is basically the majority of the country, think I should be in prison.

    189,000,000 million Americans don't have a problem with who I am?

    Seriously, I would rather take my chances living in America.


    well, all i can say is that nobody fucked with me down there whenever i visited family but i've been beat up, assaulted and even stabbed in the states. all those incidents happened to me when i was a kid too. so the green isn't all that greener on this side of the world though folks will try to make it out to be different. you pretty much gotta watch your back everywhere. nowhere and nobody is safe.


    You can't define your entire experience of Jamaica based on a visit. Same way, I can't define the United States based on my few short visits there. Also, your interactions have been limited to family and I don't think they are going to waste time attacking a relative because of his sexuality if you are out to them.

    The reality is, homophobia in Jamaica is much more than physical harm. Its the psychological issues too. There is no safe space to be yourself here, the pressures of family and society to be someone you are not is tremendous. Discrimination in the workplace if you don't fit a persona. Not saying it doesn't exist in a North America, but I have evidence that being gay in America, especially black and gay you have more first world problems to deal with than what goes on in Jamaica.

    Just to emphasize what I mean, there is a secret group I am a part of on Facebook for gay/bi Caribbean men, many of whom have either migrated to more tolerant countries, the majority being North America. Based on their years of living in Jamaica and the abuse they have experienced here, they would never want to set back foot on the island even if you paid them to. Many have basically said, the island is simply in their past now. Some just like you, they will only visit.

    American is one of the largest countries in this world, there are people who have never even traveled out of the state they are from, much less visit all 50 states. I have traversed this entire island, all 14 parishes. I didn't speak to all 2.7 million, but surveys have been done. I have lived in the urban areas, the cities of this country and I can tell you there is no progressive thinking whether you are from the country or city.
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    May 18, 2015 10:03 AM GMT
    And Pazzy I'm pretty sure you weren't holding another guys hand or making out with another man while you were in Jamaica.
    Probably end up in a box in the ocean if you pulled anything like that in Jamaica..
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    May 18, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
    venue35 saidAnd Pazzy I'm pretty sure you weren't holding another guys hand or making out with another man while you were in Jamaica.
    Probably end up in a box in the ocean if you pulled anything like that in Jamaica..


    You don't have a to go that far to even raise an alarm.

    Just being a single man in a community, not married, no girlfriend, no children, never seen in the company of another woman can be a major cause for concern.

    Worst if a guy is caught coming to your home regularly. Everybody's business is everybody's business here. Its a good and bad thing, but its particular rough for the single gay man.
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    May 19, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
    PaulDee saidLooks like silly season again in Jamaica. Blame the IMF, people don't have anything productive to do it seems.


    I think the IMF should simply pull out of Jamaica and all of the Caribbean. Folks over there will eventually figure out life. Perhaps not.
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    PaulDee saidLooks like silly season again in Jamaica. Blame the IMF, people don't have anything productive to do it seems.


    I think the IMF should simply pull out of Jamaica and all of the Caribbean. Folks over there will eventually figure out life. Perhaps not.

    Not all of the Caribbean islands are like Jamaica. Jamaica is the only one I have read bout that has a lot of violence directed at gays and culturally enforced hatred of gay people. What do you know of other islands?
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    PaulDee saidLooks like silly season again in Jamaica. Blame the IMF, people don't have anything productive to do it seems.


    I think the IMF should simply pull out of Jamaica and all of the Caribbean. Folks over there will eventually figure out life. Perhaps not.


    When I said blame the IMF, I meant it in jest. The IMF is not to blame, but the Government of Jamaica is blaming the IMF requirements for a lack of growth in economy. They say the pressures they have to put on the people in the form of higher taxes to meet IMF targets which pushes up the cost of living and push people further into poverty is the reason for other negative factors.

    So, when there are less jobs, less food, less opportunities for growth, people turn to other past times. Part of that is to pick on the weak and vulnerable in society. Homosexuals are squarely in the target.

    People will blame gays for bringing down destruction on the island. The recent drought we are going through the gays are at fault. The island needs to repent. Obama coming here and recognizing the struggles of gay people and all other sorts of non-sense claim is causing problems in Jamaica.
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    May 19, 2015 9:14 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    Erm, Pazzy, you'd have to show me a post where someone says all people in Jamaica are fucked up. I certainly did NOT. My family, both sides, are from there and some still live there. It is a terrible place for gays and comparing to other countries as equal in terms of bad stuff happening doesn't fly with me. The US and Canada have far vaster populations. You should consider the size and frequency of hate in relation to population for starters.


    I'm not sure why you're bringing straights' crimes of passion in Canada etc into this. It's about the treatment of people suspected of being gay in Jamaica.

    Your family is from Jamaica?. Arent you white caucasian?



    Nope.
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    May 19, 2015 9:15 PM GMT
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    conservativejock said
    PaulDee saidLooks like silly season again in Jamaica. Blame the IMF, people don't have anything productive to do it seems.


    I think the IMF should simply pull out of Jamaica and all of the Caribbean. Folks over there will eventually figure out life. Perhaps not.

    Not all of the Caribbean islands are like Jamaica. Jamaica is the only one I have read bout that has a lot of violence directed at gays and culturally enforced hatred of gay people. What do you know of other islands?



    He knows squat.

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    May 28, 2015 1:57 PM GMT
    guys wouldn't cruise if they had options unlike in some countries where a guy can find someone without (much) fear n prejudice Jamaican LGBIT are living in a prison Island. This are the type of things people should be legally seeking asylum for but nope!! You tell them they're trying to kill me cause Im gay they can throw u back to the wolves