Extremists more willing to share ideas / believe more people agree with them than is true

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    May 17, 2015 5:28 PM GMT
    On RJ, the most active liberal/"progressives" have that view about government policies and social issues. The more active "conservatives" have that view about government, but from what I see, tend to be more moderate about social issues. Therefore, I would characterize the "RJ left" as being more extremist than the "RJ right".

    One thing that characterizes the behavior of some of the "RJ left" extremists, consistent with the study, is their view that a great majority of RJ members share their views on government, which may not be true. That opinion may lead them to claim that most with opinions different than their own must be duplicate or "sock" accounts, because they simply cannot process the possibility that more than a handful just might disagree with them.

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    EXTREMISTS MORE WILLING TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS, STUDY FINDS

    COLUMBUS, Ohio – People with relatively extreme opinions may be more willing to publicly share their views than those with more moderate views, according to a new study.

    The key is that the extremists have to believe that more people share their views than actually do, the research found.

    The results may offer one possible explanation for our fractured political climate in the United States, where extreme liberal and conservative opinions often seem to dominate.
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    These results have implications for how Americans view the political opinions of their communities and their political parties, Morrison said.

    Take as an example a community that tends to be moderate politically, but leans slightly liberal.

    People with more extreme liberal views in the community may be more likely than others to attend publicly visible protests and display bumper stickers espousing their liberal views, because they think the community supports them.

    “Everyone else sees these extreme opinions being expressed on a regular basis and they may eventually come to believe their community is more liberal than it actually is,” Morrison said. “The same process could occur in moderately conservative communities.

    “You have a cycle that feeds on itself: the more you hear these extremists expressing their opinions, the more you are going to believe that those extreme beliefs are normal for your community.”

    A similar process may occur in groups such as political parties. Moderately conservative people who belong to the Republican Party, for example, may believe that people with extremely conservative views represent their party, because those are the opinions they hear most often. However, that may not be true.

    http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/majopinion.htm
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    May 17, 2015 5:35 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidThe study is flawed because it was prepared by a college in fly-over country (Ohio). Now if it had been Harvard, or Berkeley....

    It was done in conjunction with Stanford, so that may have some weight with some elitists. But I suspect the extremist lefties will not be easily convinced that most don't share their opinions on government.
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    May 17, 2015 9:52 PM GMT
    All the extremist liberal hens on here will be twisting everything around, distorting the truth and crying howls of persecution when caught in the act.icon_cool.gif
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    May 18, 2015 7:39 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidAll the extremist liberal hens on here will be twisting everything around, distorting the truth and crying howls of persecution when caught in the act.icon_cool.gif

    Interesting that the study results are so readily seen in the conduct of the RJ lefties.
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    May 18, 2015 8:16 PM GMT


    Well, none of you had anything to say to that oh-so-moderate jockfever. Single handedly, he made conservs out to be extreme nutbars. Apparently your memories are rather short, lol.

    The of course there's those moderate conservs flapping their gums endlessly on TV, like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann spouting off about the end times because of people like you socal, and SB, and everyone else conserv or lib on RJ.

    One thing none of you get is what so many of you like from the outside of your country. You claim you;re not extreme but will happily promote the above two ladies (sarah and Michelle) as well as people like Santorum etc.

    There's extremism on both sides, one side errs on the side of extreme accommodation of humanities, the other errs on the side of bigotry. Take your pic.

    I guess you guys call this moderate, eh?


    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-huckabee-join-anti-gay-extremists-vowing-resist-marriage-equality-ruling

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    May 18, 2015 8:21 PM GMT


    lol, and of course all the articles I'm reading in the news about Texans claiming that Obama's going to invade their State!

    No extremism there, no sirree.
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    May 18, 2015 8:39 PM GMT
    MIL, cease and desists! You are a foreigner and therefore not entitled to express an opinion on American politics. That is unless, of course, you choose to show right-wing sympathies, in which case RJ's (not at all extreme) conservative commissars will grant you a free pass to say whatever you want.
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    May 18, 2015 9:06 PM GMT
    Huh.

    Based on the title of the topic, I was prepared to enter and write a post agreeing that that is probably true.

    But the original post seems to indicate this is more of a "liberals are crazy/delusional/the antichrist" topic than the actual discussion implied by the topic title.

    Should probably not make your topic title so misleading.
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    May 19, 2015 1:24 AM GMT
    metalstorm1617 saidHuh.

    Based on the title of the topic, I was prepared to enter and write a post agreeing that that is probably true.

    But the original post seems to indicate this is more of a "liberals are crazy/delusional/the antichrist" topic than the actual discussion implied by the topic title.

    Should probably not make your topic title so misleading.

    I think the thread title accurately reflects the study and my primary purpose in sharing it was so RJers who had interest would read the article. I chose to add my opinion to give it context to RJ, which the thread title did not address.
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    May 19, 2015 1:31 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Well, none of you had anything to say to that oh-so-moderate jockfever. Single handedly, he made conservs out to be extreme nutbars. Apparently your memories are rather short, lol.

    The of course there's those moderate conservs flapping their gums endlessly on TV, like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann spouting off about the end times because of people like you socal, and SB, and everyone else conserv or lib on RJ.

    One thing none of you get is what so many of you like from the outside of your country. You claim you;re not extreme but will happily promote the above two ladies (sarah and Michelle) as well as people like Santorum etc.

    There's extremism on both sides, one side errs on the side of extreme accommodation of humanities, the other errs on the side of bigotry. Take your pic.

    I guess you guys call this moderate, eh?


    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-huckabee-join-anti-gay-extremists-vowing-resist-marriage-equality-ruling

    My characterization of RJers was that most are conservative with respect to government and economy, but more moderate on social issues.

    As far as ex-member Jockfever, I recall he posted some cartoons highly unflattering to Democrats, but I don't recall him supporting socially conservative Republicans.

    From my perspective, I don't see Palin as an extremist. During the run up to the 2012 election, I don't recall anyone supporting Bachman and only one person supporting Santorum. There were several, including myself, who were vocal opposing Santorum. So your characterizing all of us as supporting Bachman and Santorum is intellectually dishonest. But I think you know that. When your position is weak, you need to resort to stretching the truth.
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    May 19, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said

    Well, none of you had anything to say to that oh-so-moderate jockfever. Single handedly, he made conservs out to be extreme nutbars. Apparently your memories are rather short, lol.

    The of course there's those moderate conservs flapping their gums endlessly on TV, like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann spouting off about the end times because of people like you socal, and SB, and everyone else conserv or lib on RJ.

    One thing none of you get is what so many of you like from the outside of your country. You claim you;re not extreme but will happily promote the above two ladies (sarah and Michelle) as well as people like Santorum etc.

    There's extremism on both sides, one side errs on the side of extreme accommodation of humanities, the other errs on the side of bigotry. Take your pic.

    I guess you guys call this moderate, eh?


    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-huckabee-join-anti-gay-extremists-vowing-resist-marriage-equality-ruling

    My characterization of RJers was that most are conservative with respect to government and economy, but more moderate on social issues.

    As far as ex-member Jockfever, I recall he posted some cartoons highly unflattering to Democrats, but I don't recall him supporting socially conservative Republicans.

    From my perspective, I don't see Palin as an extremist. During the run up to the 2012 election, I don't recall anyone supporting Bachman and only one person supporting Santorum. There were several, including myself, who were vocal opposing Santorum. So you're characterizing all of us as supporting Bachman and Santorum is intellectually dishonest. But I think you know that. When your position is weak, you need to resort to stretching the truth.


    No dear, my point is that you did exactly that in your OP.
    When I did it to show you what you looked like, the point went over your head at about 38k feet, lol.
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    May 19, 2015 1:42 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    No dear, my point is that you did exactly that in your OP.
    When I did it to show you what you looked like, the point went over your head at about 38k feet, lol.

    The OP and my response are completely consistent. That must have gone over your head.
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    May 19, 2015 1:49 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    roadbikeRob saidAll the extremist liberal hens on here will be twisting everything around, distorting the truth and crying howls of persecution when caught in the act.icon_cool.gif


    When referring to extremist liberal hens, you should also include this photo:

    CARING-FOR-HENS-AND-FAQ-INTRO-PAGE-IMAGE


    I'm sick and tired of you guys insulting chickens the way you do.
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    May 19, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    CARING-FOR-HENS-AND-FAQ-INTRO-PAGE-IMAGE
    I'm sick and tired of you guys insulting chickens the way you do.


    Thanks for the correction Bob. Of course they are not liberal hens, they are conservative chickens.
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    May 19, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said
    No dear, my point is that you did exactly that in your OP.
    When I did it to show you what you looked like, the point went over your head at about 38k feet, lol.

    The OP and my response are completely consistent. That must have gone over your head.



    Oh good grief. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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    May 20, 2015 6:48 AM GMT
    meninlove said I guess you guys call this moderate, eh?


    Just like people used to believe the earth was the center of creation and then the center of the universe and then the center of the solar system...

    ...... It's next to impossible to recognize "moderate" from a perspective to the left of next to everything and everyone.

    The universe, the world or the majority of people's lives don't revolve around the extremes of left or the right in politics as you seem to believe.

    But socalfitness should give you his deep gratitude for proving everything about his OP.
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    May 20, 2015 8:12 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidExtremists more willing to share ideas / believe more people agree with them than is true
    And you actually think people agree with that?
  • roadbikeRob

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    May 20, 2015 12:12 PM GMT
    IAmazeMyself saidConservative Extremists spend their waking lives in online shelters.
    SAD.
    You continue to endlessly amaze yourself with your own blatant stupidity. icon_mad.gif
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    May 20, 2015 5:01 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    socalfitness saidExtremists more willing to share ideas / believe more people agree with them than is true
    And you actually think people agree with that?

    Can't say what extent people agree with that, but I do. Aside from the poll results, it seems reasonable to me and I see it all the time. I sometimes look at right wing forums, but do not participate there. Same is true with them.
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    May 20, 2015 5:07 PM GMT
    Don't forget our pro-gay agenda... promoting the idea that spending millions demonizing same-sex attraction isn't a worthwhile use of taxpayer and donor money, on RJ of all places, where straight guys once were safe jerking off to platonic fitness tips.

    The *nerve* of us people...
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    May 21, 2015 12:43 AM GMT
    bobbobbob said
    meninlove said I guess you guys call this moderate, eh?


    Just like people used to believe the earth was the center of creation and then the center of the universe and then the center of the solar system...

    ...... It's next to impossible to recognize "moderate" from a perspective to the left of next to everything and everyone.

    The universe, the world or the majority of people's lives don't revolve around the extremes of left or the right in politics as you seem to believe.

    But socalfitness should give you his deep gratitude for proving everything about his OP.

    There are things some people don't or can't comprehend. In looking at some Conservative sites, I see the same kind of mentality there as with the RJ far-lefties.
  • bobbobbob

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    May 23, 2015 11:01 PM GMT
    ^^^^^
    I've seen it too. They, like the low information lefties in here need to get out from their mutual affirmation circle jerk buddies and come to terms with the fact that they are not the center of anything but the fringes.
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    May 24, 2015 5:31 AM GMT
    It is funny watching the completely theocratic, warmongering, socially uncaring financially, americans being called LIBERAL, when from an out of country perspective there are only minor differences between your extremes on either side, and ALL of your views on both supposed sides are far right, even the most liberal of you.
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    May 24, 2015 6:22 AM GMT
    bobbobbob said^^^^^
    I've seen it too. They, like the low information lefties in here need to get out from their mutual affirmation circle jerk buddies and come to terms with the fact that they are not the center of anything but the fringes.


    Except that I'm not a far left leftie like you think. In fact you'd be rather pissed off in an embarrassing way if you really knew where my leanings lie. icon_lol.gif

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    May 24, 2015 6:24 AM GMT
    Apparition saidIt is funny watching the completely theocratic, warmongering, socially uncaring financially, americans being called LIBERAL, when from an out of country perspective there are only minor differences between your extremes on either side, and ALL of your views on both supposed sides are far right, even the most liberal of you.

    The differences may be minor to you and others from outside the US, but they are not minor to us in the US. Furthermore if you believe all Americans support a theocracy, along with your other absurd characterizations, you are demonstrating not only a different perspective, but an ignorant one.