Why #Pinkwashing Insults Gays and Hurts Palestinians

  • mwolverine

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    May 22, 2015 4:52 PM GMT
    Why #Pinkwashing Insults Gays and Hurts Palestinians
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/06/17/pinkwashing_and_homonationalism_discouraging_gay_travel_to_israel_hurts.html

    By Tyler Lopez

    It’s June, and Tel Aviv is once again seeing rainbows. But last week’s gay pride celebrations in the Middle East’s most progressive city left some activists seeing red, or, more specifically, pink. Israel’s increased visibility as a travel destination for LGBTQ visitors during pride month inevitably brings out the “pinkwashing” activists on Twitter. In this context, pinkwashing is defined as a disingenuous effort by the Israeli government to use the country’s generally positive record on LGBTQ rights to distract attention from human rights abuses in Palestine. But in their efforts to call attention to Palestinians’ plight, overzealous activists have demonized legitimate gay rights advances as part of a broader anti-Israel stance. This is terrible for gay rights in general, and it’s particularly awful for the LGBTQ community in Palestine.

    Pinkwashing activists believe that LGBTQ sympathy for Israel—and comparative antipathy for other countries in the region — will indirectly hurt the Palestinian cause. Arguments to support this generally hinge on cultural relativism, claiming that Israel is fomenting a gays-versus-Muslims mentality as part of a broader agenda. But Israel isn’t telling the gay community to hate anyone. And the gay community isn’t turning its back on gay rights internationally.

    Pinkwashing activists sometimes point to a 1951 law decriminalizing sodomy in Jordan — grandfathered into the West Bank — as an example of progress. But how is a 1951 law a sign of progress? Jordanian authorities regularly harass and sometimes arrest members of the LGBTQ community. Same-sex activity is still prohibited in Gaza, so don’t expect to see any Hamas-sponsored pride parades anytime soon. Many Palestinian gays who feel unwelcome in their home territory seek refuge in Israel. But discriminatory Israeli policies make it difficult for gay Palestinian asylum-seekers to stay there. It will take the efforts of the broader gay community to affect change on both sides of the conflict. In other words, foreign gays should be welcomed to Israel, and activists should set their sights on educating them about LGBTQ needs in Palestine.

    It’s safe to say that the LGBTQ community isn’t exactly clamoring to support hardline Islamic societies where the penalties for homosexuality range from prison time to death. But how is it fair to blame Israel if its pro-gay policies make its neighbors look bad? The gay community has no obligation to value cultural norms that support their imprisonment or demise. But pinkwashing assumes that the gay community is too stupid to realize that, yes, Muslims can be gay, too.

    Having more gays — many of whom are socially liberal progressives with strong sympathies for human rights causes — visit Israel would seem to be a tremendous opportunity for Palestinian activists to raise awareness for their cause. Yes, most gay visitors are there to enjoy the beautiful beaches, renowned nightlife, and delicious food (also known as a vacation), but this doesn’t mean they necessarily harbor a strong allegiance to the Israeli government. Instead of demonizing gay travelers for something Tel Aviv is doing right, activists should focus on drumming up support for Palestine’s LGBTQ community while they’re in town. Pride is about inclusiveness, and Palestinians should be included.

    Tel Aviv’s pride celebration isn’t just a party for visitors, anyway. Tel Aviv, like the rest of Israel, still has obstacles to overcome and accomplishments to be made on the gay rights front. Marriage equality has not yet been achieved. Housing discrimination against gay couples is still commonplace. Increased visibility for the city’s large LGBTQ population — bolstered by visitors from abroad — is undoubtedly helpful to advancing gay rights in the region. Organizers predicted that nearly 20,000 of the event’s more than 100,000 participants would be foreign visitors this year.

    But pinkwashing activists are relying on bizarre logic to prove their points. The concept of “homonationalism” suggests that gays in more progressive societies are more likely to be swayed by pinkwashing, baited into xenophobic hatred due a combination of past injustices and racial/religious privilege. Having experienced discrimination in the past but now seeing their rights recognized, these gays — typically white and from Christian backgrounds — will be fast to marginalize groups that they perceive to be homophobic. But for pinkwashing activists, homonationalism doesn’t stop there.

    Jasbir Puar, an academic who helped popularize the term, suggested in an article last year that the 2003 invasion of Iraq — and subsequent human rights abuses at Abu Ghraib — was bolstered by homonationalism as part of “sexually progressive multiculturalism justifying foreign intervention.” While it may be easy to project repression on an individual level, the idea that the LGBTQ community was more OK with torturing detainees because they were seen as an enemy of the gays is a bit far-fetched. In fact, the idea that any Bush administration policies were widely accepted by the gay community seems pretty ridiculous.

    Other activists have even begun to cite a more direct correlation between gay visitors and human rights abuses, holding up placards suggesting that Israeli government is “using” gay people to oppress Palestinians. But is Israel welcoming LGBTQ travelers with a gift basket full of munitions to hurl over West Bank barriers? No. Linking the gay rights movement to Israel’s geopolitical conflict merely refreshes age-old Zionist conspiracy theories by using one of today’s most prominent social issues.

    Pinkwashing advocates are trapped in their own gender studies/international relations fantasyland. Legitimately concerned with human rights abuses in Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories, they have created an entire academic language in order to hype up a concept that draws an unrealistic correlation between their cause and the gay rights movement. Because of this, any LGBTQ person traveling to take part in a gay rights demonstration is a homonationalist, unwittingly part of the pinkwashing agenda. It’s no longer appropriate to label any city as “gay-friendly” or “homophobic,” because, according to pinkwashing activists, pro-gay legislation and LGBTQ visibility aren’t the appropriate barometers with which to measure social change. Gays, perhaps it’s time to book your tickets to Saudi Arabia. (Don’t worry about finding a hotel; if you’re openly gay, the Saudi government will be happy to provide accommodations.)

    Of course, LGBTQ rights aren’t the only marker of social change or human rights. But suggesting that they’re separate from any other universal human right is dangerous. An accusation of pinkwashing presumes that gay human rights causes are less salient than Palestinian human rights causes, when in fact they’re all equal. (And sometimes the same.) Keeping gay visitors out of Israel also keeps Palestine — and much of the rest of the Middle East — out of their minds. By championing all gay rights causes, activists can better champion Palestinian causes. By claiming #pinkwashing, we only further segregate the human rights community, and that just isn’t something to be proud of.
  • mwolverine

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    May 22, 2015 4:55 PM GMT
    See also:

    Countries that support gays or kill them
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/984797

    Gay Palestinians
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1061322

    Israel Plans Monument to Gays Persecuted by Nazis
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3401610

    Tel Aviv Pride 2015
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4047610
  • mwolverine

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    May 23, 2015 2:42 AM GMT
    Wonder why this guy didn't boycott Israel?

    Gay Palestinian man petitions for asylum
    Nablus resident living with Israeli partner for over decade says he would be killed if deported back to Palestinian Authority


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4234038,00.html

    He claimed that he has been arrested and beaten by the Palestinian police due to his sexual orientation in the past, and that his family has disowned him and warned him against returning to Nablus.
  • ASHDOD

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    May 23, 2015 9:37 PM GMT
    i met quit a few gay palestinians who found reguge in israel [and somtimes a bf too icon_smile.gif]
  • mwolverine

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    May 25, 2015 1:39 AM GMT
    No surprise: the first out Arab in the mideast lives in Israel and wrote his coming out column in Hebrew.

    http://www.mako.co.il/pride-sex-and-love/identity-arab-gays/Article-d16240e14d11731006.htm&sCh=7489373c71380310&pId=2082585621
  • mwolverine

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    May 25, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
    The article above is from early 2012. Which AyaTrolLiar pouncer would have realized if he had cared enough to click on the link and look (or maybe, seeing that the article was in Hebrew, he knew he wouldn't be able to read it, anyhow - despite lying about that, too.)

    Bassem Youussef hosted an openly gay musician in 2013, but watch how he backtracks and says they didn't talk about his orientation, just his music...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRA6wABvMUU


    Arab friends who are out in Michigan hide that when they visit the old country (often even from their own relatives).
  • mwolverine

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    May 25, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
    Since the pathological troll is likely to now argue for pages about a tree here or there, missing the forest, I will amend what I said to this:

    No surprise: [one of] the first out Arab[s] in the mideast lives in Israel and wrote his coming out column in Hebrew.

    Now consider the statistical probability:
    Arabs in Israel: 1 million
    Arabs in the territories: 4 million
    Arabs in the Arab world: 366 million

    Yet there are likely more out Arabs in Israel than the entire Arab world combined.
  • venue35

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    May 25, 2015 9:53 PM GMT
    Well one of you is fibbing and one of you is not
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 1:05 AM GMT
    venue35 saidWell one of you is fibbing and one of you is not

    It is par for the course that a potential slight exaggeration on my part becomes AyaTrolLiar pouncer's example par excellence of a "lie".
    As usual missing the forest for a tree.

    A record of propaganda pouncer's pathological lies-for-the-cause - dozens of them - can be found here:

    Intellectual dishonesty hall of shame: Freedom of opinion/press is found in Iran, not in US or UK.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151

    As you can see, these are not one-liners but lengthy paragraphs of lies, repeated and regurgitated elsewhere even after exposed, with more lies built atop of those lies.
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 1:07 AM GMT
    Now back to this topic:

    No surprise: [one of] the first out Arab[s] in the mideast lives in Israel and wrote his coming out column in Hebrew.

    AyaTrolLiar pouncer previously claimed he could read Hebrew.
    So, what does he think of this article?


    Now consider the statistical probability:

    Arabs in Israel: 1 million
    Arabs in the territories: 4 million
    Arabs in the Arab world: 366 million

    Yet there are likely more out Arabs in Israel than the entire Arab world combined.

    Why would that be?
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 3:41 AM GMT
    Sticking with this topic:

    No surprise: [one of] the first out Arab[s] in the mideast lives in Israel and wrote his coming out column in Hebrew.

    AyaTrolLiar pouncer previously claimed he could read Hebrew.
    So, what does he think of this article?

    AyaTrolLiar> [lied about that, too.]
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151?forumpage=2


    Now consider the statistical probability:

    Arabs in Israel: 1 million
    Arabs in the territories: 4 million
    Arabs in the Arab world: 366 million

    Yet there are likely more out Arabs in Israel than the entire Arab world combined.

    Why would that be?
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 4:00 AM GMT
    pouncer saidOh dear, even the Jewish Daily Forward admits, albeit with some criticisms:

    || Pinkwashing is not a “discredited idea” ... it is a reality

    ROTFL. Some criticisms?

    Why no link to the article?
    http://forward.com/opinion/politics/308303/a-fight-among-lgbt-activists-over-israel/

    Oh, this is why - from his own source:

    || Israel’s branding itself as a “gay tourism destination” is about money, not politics. Lucas is right when he says that critics of Israel can’t accept that it does anything for the right reasons.

    It goes on to admit that "Pinkwashing" does exist in some cases (e.g. when "Ted Cruz mentioned Iran’s lynching of gay people in his recent “fireside chat” with two wealthy gay men (oh, of course it wasn’t about money; no sir). It’s not like Cruz actually gives a patoot about LGBT equality; he’s fought us at every turn") but explicitly rejects AyaTrolLiar pouncer's position that any reference to Israel and gays, including Tel Aviv's massively popular Gay Pride Parade, is "pinkwashing".

    So not only has AyaTrolLiar pouncer exposed his infamous flawed methodology (quoting selectively and dishonestly twisting, this time, 10 words for an article while ignoring what the rest of the article says), he has just shot down his own argument (unless now he's going to reject his own source?)
  • Apparition

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    May 26, 2015 4:29 AM GMT
    So sad. Listen to both of you. YOU are the reason your whole area is a shithole with nice beaches.

    What if both of you just forgot about your little sky faeries, put down your weapons, and realized that if you build some nice hotels and casinos you could make almost unlimited sums of money from the geography and archaelogy and you would be so busy counting your money that it wouldnt matter who stole whose goat or which 30foot farm that would fit in the average living room in north america got bulldozed by some guy generations ago. IT DOESNT MATTER. ALL OF YOU ARE THE SAME GENETIC STOCK and the rest of the world thinks you are all exactly the same dangerous crybabies that have nothing better to do than complain about complaining. Shake hands and emigrate, or just get along. YOU are both wrong at everything you do.
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 5:59 AM GMT
    AyaTrolLiar pouncer claims he is "a Brit of Irish background".

    I'm an Israeli-American Jew and an atheist (most Israeli Jews are seculuar).

    Here's the peace plan I support:

    The two-state solution: Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters and the Olmert Plan.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812

    Here's my "shithole":

    tel-aviv.jpg

    2ibjm2u.jpg

    Haifa-Shrine-of-the-Bab-in-Haifa-Israel.

    16gajjl.jpg

    Come visit and see for yourself!

    Tel Aviv Gay Pride is in a couple weeks (probably too soon to make plans for this year), but there has been some thought of an RJ "field trip" for Tel Aviv Pride in 2016.
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 7:51 AM GMT
    sxysam saidHmmm that guy looks like he had a boner.

    Well, you know, he took one look at the photographer and... boing!

    One day Samer, the sooner the better, our leaders and people will make peace.
    And hatist racists like propaganda pouncer will still be barking.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812
  • mwolverine

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    May 26, 2015 3:36 PM GMT
    One day Samer, the sooner the better, our leaders and people will make peace.

    AyaTrolLiar> Sure, when [blah blah blah, bark bark bark]

    No, when they realize that compromise and peaceful coexistence is better than your/Hamas "strategy" of endless terrorism/war until total victory (disguised as "justice"). As if that's going to happen, thus it is the strategy of terrorism/war and suffering forever. (But to the propagandist's glee, he can then use the suffering his strategy causes to further perpetuate the conflict.)

    Unlike him, lounging in his mum's mostly comfortable basement with nothing better to do than hate and warmonger, some of us have a stake in this conflict (beyond seeking to punish Israel/Jews) and would like to live in peace.

    For AyaTrollah pouncer, turning Ramallah into another Gaza would be a victory. For Samer, who has relatives in the area, it would be a disaster. Warmonger pouncer is willing to sacrifice Samer's relatives to allegedly further his war against Israel/Jews. Samer isn't.

    Samer and I are being nice to each other because we have more in common than either of us have with that "Brit of Irish background" and "all around sh*tty excuse of a human being" AyaTrolLiar pouncer.
  • mwolverine

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    May 27, 2015 2:16 AM GMT
    I doubt anyone believes that AyaTrolLiar pouncer favors peace.

    The two-state solution: Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters and the Olmert Plan.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812

    Why does virulent Anti-Semitism play such a large role in MidEast discussions on RJ?
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4015076
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151

    Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people.
    (Judaism is a religion, Jews are an ethnic group)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/494893

    He couldn't even stop himself from spilling over his pathological hate in these threads:

    Tel Aviv Pride 2015
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4047610

    Does anyone else use hummus as a spread in sandwiches?
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4021365
  • mwolverine

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    May 28, 2015 4:37 AM GMT
    I doubt anyone believes that AyaTrolLiar pouncer favors peace.

    AyaTrolLiar> To repeat....

    Yep, that's what spammers and propagandists do.
    Knock yourself out.

    If his message was credible it wouldn't need to be repeated (rather than engaged in the appropriate thread - links above).
  • mwolverine

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    May 28, 2015 3:27 PM GMT
    There he goes... again.
    Like he's... pathological!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2670812
  • mwolverine

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    May 29, 2015 4:28 AM GMT
    Yawn. More spam propaganda.

    Is there anyone who hasn't yet put the AyaTrolLiar on ignore, let alone believes a word he spews?
  • mwolverine

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    Jun 01, 2015 9:28 PM GMT
    No surprise: Al Qaws and Aswat, the LGBT organizations servicing the Palestinian Arab population in the disputed territories are located not in the territories (let alone the areas under PA/Hamas rule) but in Israel.
  • mwolverine

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    Jun 09, 2015 10:01 AM GMT
    What don't you understand, southbeach?
  • mwolverine

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    Jun 11, 2015 2:24 PM GMT
    Pinkwashing debate / Israel really has become more gay-friendly – and there's nothing wrong with saying so
    Israel is far from perfect, but it has much to teach the Middle East – and, indeed, the world – when it comes to promoting acceptance of LGBT people.
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.659145
  • mwolverine

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    Jun 21, 2015 3:58 PM GMT
    Oh, dear, turns out the majority of Israelis will even support gay marriage.
    Just, allegedly, to make Israel look good?
    Those Jews are so clever - er, devious.... icon_rolleyes.gif

    Israelis are ready to follow Ireland's lead and legalize gay marriage
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4069592
  • mwolverine

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    Jul 24, 2015 9:25 PM GMT
    As to the "hurting Palestinians", an interesting article from Forbes:

    Boycott Israel Movement Stunts The Palestinian Economy
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/carriesheffield/2015/02/22/boycott-israel-movement-stunts-the-palestinian-economy

    || “The impact of BDS is more psychological than real so far and has had no discernible impact on Israeli trade or the broader economy,” Kristin Lindow, senior vice president at Moody’s Investors Service and Moody’s lead analyst for Israel (in full disclosure, a former Moody’s colleague) told Forbes. “That said, the sanctions do run the risk of hurting the Palestinian economy, which is much smaller and poorer than that of Israel, as seen in the case of SodaStream.”

    || While the broader Israeli economy is presently shielded from BDS, one victim is SodaStream, an Israeli company manufacturing DIY soda that shuttered a West Bank factory and moved it to southern Israel. This cut hundreds of jobs for Palestinians that reportedly paid between three and five times the local prevailing wage.

    || Such trade flow asymmetry shows Palestine needs Israel, economically speaking. Yet the BDS crowd would impair economic ties between these areas, despite evidence that trade between peoples lessens outbreak of war. BDS-ers want to obliterate the vast trade surplus Israel extends to Palestine and offer nothing in its place.

    || It’s easy to cast digital stones from the comfort of a California dorm room or a posh British mansion. It’s difficult to gainfully employ some 110,000 Palestinians as Israel does, or build 16 industrial parks in the West Bank and East Jerusalem hosting 1,000 facilities where Jews and Arabs work shoulder-to-shoulder.

    || Despite overheated BDS rhetoric about exploitation, last year the Palestinian Authority’s official newspaper hailed working conditions for Palestinians employed by Israelis in West Bank settlements. It also scolded Palestinians hiring other Palestinians for low wages with no benefits.

    || The BDS movement inflames rather than enlightens global dialogue around the peace process. Israel invests heavily in Palestine; the rest of the world doesn’t bother.