YAY!!!! Both Sides Say Ireland Has Voted to Legalize Gay Marriage

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    May 23, 2015 1:29 PM GMT
    Ireland has voted resoundingly to legalize gay marriage in the world's first national vote on the issue, leaders on both sides of the Irish referendum declared Saturday even as official ballot counting continued.

    Senior figures from the "no" campaign, who sought to prevent Ireland's constitution from being amended to permit same-sex marriages, say the only question is how large the "yes" side's margin of victory will be from Friday's vote.

    "We're the first country in the world to enshrine marriage equality in our constitution and do so by popular mandate. That makes us a beacon, a light to the rest of the world of liberty and equality. So it's a very proud day to be Irish," said Leo Varadkar, a Cabinet minister who came out as gay at the start of a government-led effort to amend Ireland's conservative Catholic constitution.

    "There is going to be a very substantial majority for a yes vote. I'm not at all surprised by that to be honest with you," said Irish Sen. Ronan Mullen, one of only a handful of politicians who campaigned for rejection.


    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/side-joyous-count-starts-irish-gay-marriage-vote-31252028
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    May 23, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ireland-gay-marriage-referendum-count-begins-after-high-turnout-n363666

    Senior figures in the "No" campaign, who sought to prevent Ireland's constitution from being amended to permit same-sex marriage, said the only question was how large the "Yes" side's margin of victory would be. David Quinn, director of the conservative Iona Institute, conceded defeat and congratulated the 'Yes' side.

    "There is going to be a very substantial majority for a 'Yes' vote. I'm not at all surprised by that to be honest with you," said Irish Sen. Ronan Mullen, one of only a handful of politicians who campaigned for rejection.

    Political analyst Noel Whelan noted that "yes" majorities were being reported even in conservative rural districts and suggested the only question was how large the "yes" majority would be when all ballots in this predominantly Catholic nation of 4.6 million are counted.

    Government minister Leo Varadkar predicted that voters in the capital had endorsed gay marriage by about 70 percent against 30 percent against.


    And that's what you call a landslide in the US. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 23, 2015 3:22 PM GMT
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    NYT: Opinion polls and high turnout in urban areas favored a yes vote on the referendum, which would make Ireland the first nation to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/world/europe/ireland-gay-marriage-referendum.html
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    May 23, 2015 3:41 PM GMT


    I can't celebrate until the vote counting is done. There is still the following from live feeds:

    ' 22m ago
    16:17
    With results from 16 of the 43 constituencies now in, the Yes vote is running at 62.4% and the No vote 37.6%.'


    That's only 16 out of 43 so far. If there was chart or graph showing population densities for each constituency, I'd have a better picture.
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    May 23, 2015 5:12 PM GMT


    lol, now I can celebrate, just about all the constituencies have now been counted - it's a YES!


    Now watch what will happen...nothing.
    Some wedding planners, florists, bakers, caterers, travel agencies and realtors will make wads of money, and several thousand gay couples, men and women, will marry. Some needy kids will get adopted (this ruling was just made with an overwhelming majority, ahead of the marriage vote results).

    You rock, Ireland!

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    May 23, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    lol, now I can celebrate, just about all the constituencies have now been counted - it's a YES!


    Now watch what will happen...nothing.
    Some wedding planners, florists, bakers, caterers, travel agencies and realtors will make wads of money, and several thousand gay couples, men and women, will marry. Some needy kids will get adopted (this ruling was just made with an overwhelming majority, ahead of the marriage vote results).

    You rock, Ireland!



    This is exactly right, and the same thing happens repeatedly in the U.S.
    Conservatives tell us the world will end if marriage equality comes to a state, then the state legalized gay marriage and no one even notices, apart from the statistically small group of same-sex couples getting hitched.
    I live in one of the states where this has already happened.
    The conservative campaign of lies against gay Americans is looking more and more foolish... they're just embarrassing themselves with their backward thinking and bigotry.
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    May 23, 2015 10:42 PM GMT
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    meninlove said

    lol, now I can celebrate, just about all the constituencies have now been counted - it's a YES!


    Now watch what will happen...nothing.
    Some wedding planners, florists, bakers, caterers, travel agencies and realtors will make wads of money, and several thousand gay couples, men and women, will marry. Some needy kids will get adopted (this ruling was just made with an overwhelming majority, ahead of the marriage vote results).

    You rock, Ireland!

    This is exactly right, and the same thing happens repeatedly in the U.S.
    Conservatives tell us the world will end if marriage equality comes to a state, then the state legalized gay marriage and no one even notices, apart from the statistically small group of same-sex couples getting hitched.
    I live in one of the states where this has already happened.
    The conservative campaign of lies against gay Americans is looking more and more foolish... they're just embarrassing themselves with their backward thinking and bigotry.

    But... I thought US Right Wingers have said gay rights were being approved by Liberal activist courts, not by the will of the people.

    How can this Irish vote exist? It must be a mistake. When one of the most Roman Catholic countries on Earth votes for gay rights, you know that's a mistake. The Fox News spin will tell us why very shortly. Speak to us southbeach1500, speak to us.
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    May 23, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
    Catholicism has been in decline in Ireland for the past 10-15 years, especially after all of the sex and child abuse scandals have been leaked.
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    May 24, 2015 12:11 PM GMT
    libertpaulian saidCatholicism has been in decline in Ireland for the past 10-15 years, especially after all of the sex and child abuse scandals have been leaked.

    I suspect, but don't know, the RC Church scandals have been a big factor in this vote. While Irish Catholic leaders were railing against this vote for same-sex marriage, voters weren't listening to them, due to lost respect and credibility.

    The Church has only itself to blame for not acting quicker in these child molestation scandals. In fact, actually covering them up, denying them, and in effect facilitating these molesters.

    But I can guess what the Church does now: reiterate refusal of communion and even excommunication for those getting a same-sex marriage, perhaps also those officiating and participating in these marriages. Which will only further isolate the Church from the people. We shall see.