Infidelity Hides in Your Genes

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    May 23, 2015 3:34 PM GMT
    NYT: The number of Americans who actually cheat on their partners is rather substantial: Over the past two decades, the rate of infidelity has been pretty constant at around 21 percent for married men.

    We are accustomed to thinking of sexual infidelity as a symptom of an unhappy relationship, a moral flaw or a sign of deteriorating social values. We have long known that men have a genetic, evolutionary impulse to cheat, because that increases the odds of having more of their offspring in the world.

    Sexual monogamy is distinctly unusual in nature: Humans are among the 3 to 5 percent of mammalian species that practice monogamy, along with the swift fox and beaver — but even in these species, infidelity has been commonly observed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/opinion/sunday/infidelity-lurks-in-your-genes.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
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    May 24, 2015 5:40 AM GMT
    21 percent admitted it. icon_wink.gif
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    May 24, 2015 8:39 AM GMT
    Would an attempt at a "jeans" pun be too on the nose, or too contrived?
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    May 24, 2015 1:11 PM GMT
    anotherphil saidWould an attempt at a "jeans" pun be too on the nose, or too contrived?

    I immediately thought the same thing when I read the thread leader. Infidelity DOES hide, or at least reside, in a man's jeans.

    When I attended a Jesuit prep school we were warned, way back in 1963 when I was 14, that men had "groin-centered minds". And I know everyone here has heard variants of that assertion.

    BTW, I apparently lack that other kind of gene. I am totally faithful & monogamous. Once I have a man, that is.

    When single I'm Sammy Slut. As soon as I begin dating I become Freddy Faithful. Some kind of switch gets thrown inside me automatically, without any decision or effort on my part. So that I lose all interest in other men, just care about the guy I'm with.

    Personally I think it's a self-serving reflex. Grateful to snag ANY man, I'm not about to risk him to my cheating. I'm very much governed by the old adages of my youth, one of them being: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
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    May 24, 2015 1:44 PM GMT
    anotherphil saidWould an attempt at a "jeans" pun be too on the nose, or too contrived?



    Well, you beat me to it only because I slept in a bit.
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    May 24, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
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    anotherphil saidWould an attempt at a "jeans" pun be too on the nose, or too contrived?

    I immediately thought the same thing when I read the thread leader. Infidelity DOES hide, or at least reside, in a man's jeans.

    When I attended a Jesuit prep school we were warned, way back in 1963 when I was 14, that men had "groin-centered minds". And I know everyone here has heard variants of that assertion.

    BTW, I apparently lack that other kind of gene. I am totally faithful & monogamous. Once I have a man, that is.

    When single I'm Sammy Slut. As soon as I begin dating I become Freddy Faithful. Some kind of switch gets thrown inside me automatically, without any decision or effort on my part. So that I lose all interest in other men, just care about the guy I'm with.

    Personally I think it's a self-serving reflex. Grateful to snag ANY man, I'm not about to risk him to my cheating. I'm very much governed by the old adages of my youth, one of them being: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".


    "When single I'm Sammy Slut. As soon as I begin dating I become Freddy Faithful."

    Yep, agree. I was a two bit whore when single, but not a chance if hooked up
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    May 24, 2015 1:59 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    anotherphil saidWould an attempt at a "jeans" pun be too on the nose, or too contrived?



    Well, you beat me to it only because I slept in a bit.

    And here I was fixated on the beaver reference.
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    May 24, 2015 3:14 PM GMT
    Some good info. Too bad it's served up with such a loaded crock of shit...

    article:
    ...We have long known that men have a genetic, evolutionary impulse to cheat...

    ...Women who carry certain variants of the vasopressin receptor gene are much more likely to engage in “extra pair bonding,” the scientific euphemism for sexual infidelity...


    ...because cheating is not genetic and even if it was physical like, say, pathological lying, then a person might still have those urges to enjoy less restricted sex but could satisfy them in perfectly honest, open relationships thereby not cheating. And it is full of shit by the proposed idea of "extra pair bonding being 'scientific euphemism' for sexual infidelity" when "sexual infidelity"** is nothing but a fucking euphemism for cheating.

    Oh look, more bullshit:

    Other studies confirm that oxytocin and vasopressin are linked to partner bonding, which bears on the question of promiscuity since emotional bonding is, in a sense, the inverse of promiscuity


    So this woman of an author (pardon the misogynous reference: I meant a guy without balls) thinks emotional bonding is restricted to monogamous and not inherent as well to open relationships. Sounds like this was written by one of those tight-ass realjock assholes. And he only reluctantly, at the very end of his rant, concedes the possibility that...

    I realized that she probably had a propensity for sexual exploration that seemed in some ways independent of the emotional status of her relationships.


    This guy is a psychiatrist, really? Are they usually this judgmental? He's conflating human mind with animal behavior, reason with instinct. Instead of anthropomorphizing animals, he's animalizing (if that's a word) humanity and then judging in twisted thinking animal behavior based on constructed moral values.

    Look, that vole is cheating! Judge much? What a crock.

    ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidelity
    Infidelity (also referred to as cheating, adultery, or having an affair) is a violation of a couple’s assumed or stated contract regarding emotional and/or sexual exclusivity



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    May 24, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
    googling the author; didnt find anything odd and otherwise he has a functional resume.

    i guess its an accomplishment to get your article printed by the NYTimes.
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    May 25, 2015 12:50 AM GMT
    I always hoped that my mother had an affair and that her husband was not my father.