The Most Distinctive Causes of Death by State (Or WTF is wrong with Florida?)

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    May 25, 2015 9:54 PM GMT
    Specifically HIV/AIDS is the major killer in Florida and D.C. And this in the post HAART era.

    Even scarier Syphilis is the major killer in Louisiana. This is 2015!

    "I lived in Florida for 15 years and I used ADAP, which is administered by the state. What is not mentioned is that Florida Republicans have structured HIV services, to be as cumbersome and inconvenient as possible. All ADAP is administered by County Pharmacies that are only open on certain days and during certain hours. You cannot go after work, as they are not open. They also do the ADAP paperwork at the same sites and the crap they put you through to get on ADAP is equally appalling.

    They nitpick every little thing, which makes it next to impossible for anyone, who is health challenged to get approved for treatment. Filling your meds is also made as difficult as possible as well, with antiquated policies and equipment. The entire system is designed to be as disenfranchising as possible, to save the state money.

    The state makes living with HIV as difficult as possible. It's not a service, it's a strategy to simply save money.

    Joe"

    http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=58928.0



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    Remember that in San Francisco the numbers are down to 359 newly diagnosed HIV cases. Data from prior years indicate this number is trending downward.

    Newly diagnosed Florida HIV cases, meanwhile, are up 27 percent over three years, increasing from 4,593 in 2012 to 5,821 in 2014.

    http://opinionzone.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/05/24/whats-behind-palm-beach-countys-spike-in-hepatitis-and-hiv/
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    May 25, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
    The problem in Florida is lack of sex education in the schools. I know of several non-profit organizations who wanted to offer free sex education to high schoolers, especially about HIV, and they were refused.

    Not permitted by the Republican Party. The only thing that can be taught is abstinence. And nothing about the way in which diseases are transmitted, nor how condoms and other methods can reduce those risks. And so we see these results.
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    May 26, 2015 12:12 AM GMT
    I saw this on UPI a few days ago. You have to read the fine print.

    The chart does not necessarily highlight a "major" cause of death, only the "most distinctive" cause of death - in other words, for each state, it shows the cause of death that is most deviant from the norm.

    In fact, there were only 22 deaths from syphilis in Louisiana. That's hardly a major cause of death, but it's more per capita than died of syphilis elsewhere.

    Of course it's a cause for concern that Florida and DC have higher than average rates of death due to AIDS, but it doesn't necessarily mean their rate is higher than, say, California or New York. It simply means other places had other causes of death that were even more deviant from the national average.

    Bottom line: Statistics can be easily manipulated to produce shocking results.
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    May 26, 2015 1:21 AM GMT
    sunjbill saidDAMN Republican infidels, responsible for another of the world's ills. Unsure as to why you don't live in Massachusetts or Maryland, both consistently voted the most Democratic of states. Oh that's right, then your bitching my get cut in half...maybe... Then again you'd start bitching about the weather in both states, probably bad weather caused by the 1 or 2 Republicans still in each state...lol!!!


    WTF does "then your bitching my get cut in half." mean?

    Since you mentioned Massachusetts

    "...a federal government report late last year showing that in two-thirds of Americans with HIV, the virus was not being suppressed with medication.

    In Massachusetts, the opposite is true: Almost two-thirds of people with HIV have the illness fully in check, with the virus at extremely low levels in their blood.

    Health officials and patient advocates said the payoff extends beyond those infected with HIV: People who suppress the virus with medication are unlikely to transmit it to others. In Massachusetts, the rate of new HIV infections has declined 37 percent since 2002."

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/01/15/massachusetts-residents-with-hiv-twice-likely-have-illness-under-control/4mhlp5hdBAthDyh4wckbZM/story.html#

    Sorry Art Deco, but Romney was Governor of Massachusetts at the time. Of course it isn't just the Governor, Dem or Rep. And we have to give some credit to GWB for the African AIDS program. Although it's been more effective under Obama where there is less insistence on abstinence.

    The problem in Florida is a culture of ignorance. Something Art has displayed countless times. Art had derided "Treatment as Prevention" and undetectable as a "BB Agenda".

    Art is right when he says "And nothing about the way in which diseases are spread, nor how condoms and other methods can reduce those risks. And so we see these results."

    Abstinence doesn't work. Condoms work on a 1:1 basis. On a community level TasP and PrEP are more effective. Hindering, or by omission, or outright stigmatizing the education of TasP or any other effective means of risk reduction, results in unnecessary HIV infections.
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    May 26, 2015 2:11 PM GMT
    timmm55 said

    http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=58928.0



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    Remember that in San Francisco the numbers are down to 359 newly diagnosed HIV cases. Data from prior years indicate this number is trending downward.

    Newly diagnosed Florida HIV cases, meanwhile, are up 27 percent over three years, increasing from 4,593 in 2012 to 5,821 in 2014.

    http://opinionzone.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/05/24/whats-behind-palm-beach-countys-spike-in-hepatitis-and-hiv/


    Hyperplasia of Prostate in California

    Hyperplasia: the enlargement of an organ or tissue caused by an increase in the reproduction rate of its cells, often as an initial stage in the development of cancer.

    Can there be too much stimulation of the prostate that causes this or is it something else?

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    May 26, 2015 2:59 PM GMT
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    Hyperplasia of Prostate in California

    Hyperplasia: the enlargement of an organ or tissue caused by an increase in the reproduction rate of its cells, often as an initial stage in the development of cancer.

    Can there be too much stimulation of the prostate that causes this or is it something else?

    Benign Prostate Hyperplasia (BPH) begins affecting men over 50. Benign means it isn't an infectious or cancerous process; hyperplasia means excess cell growth as you state; and prostate means the organ affected.

    While classified as benign it nevertheless can cause difficulties in men. The principle one is urinary tract blockage. This prevents full emptying of the bladder, resulting in waking for multiple bathroom trips at night, and urgency, when a man must find a restroom immediately or wet himself. Another effect can be dribbling afterwards.

    Solutions can include medications (the most known in the US being Flomax), and surgery to open the passage.

    I don't know why one part of the US would see more incidents of BPH other than due to age demographics. My understanding is that it's a normal aging process, although some men, perhaps due to genetics, are more prone to it than others. Sorta like how some older men get enlarged noses & ears for no apparent reason.

    But I was not aware prostate enlargement could kill a man, benign or otherwise. This is puzzling to me. Maybe the key phrase is "Most Distinctive Causes of Death" and what that means. Perhaps not the same as "leading" or "chief", rather a meaning in a medical sense, as opposed to a simple statistical one we may be assuming.
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    May 26, 2015 7:18 PM GMT
    bro4bro saidI saw this on UPI a few days ago. You have to read the fine print.

    The chart does not necessarily highlight a "major" cause of death, only the "most distinctive" cause of death - in other words, for each state, it shows the cause of death that is most deviant from the norm.

    In fact, there were only 22 deaths from syphilis in Louisiana. That's hardly a major cause of death, but it's more per capita than died of syphilis elsewhere.

    Of course it's a cause for concern that Florida and DC have higher than average rates of death due to AIDS, but it doesn't necessarily mean their rate is higher than, say, California or New York. It simply means other places had other causes of death that were even more deviant from the national average.

    Bottom line: Statistics can be easily manipulated to produce shocking results.


    I thinks it's more productive than just trying to find shocking results. If a state such as Louisiana has 22 cases of syphilis it can point out a unique trend t watch for.

    I do thank you for the research, I was a bit puzzled by it too. Louisiana has a high rate of AIDS deaths too.
    http://aeon.co/magazine/health/how-new-orleans-became-americas-ground-zero-for-hiv/
    But it's not in first place.

    Miami is twice that of Los Angeles 1208 v 513 per 100,000.

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    http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-06/unbelievably-detailed-maps-track-aids-us-through-data


    It doesn't say NEW infections, but the same trend is true for Florida. The infection rate is much higher. Miami is #1, LA is #19.

    The 25 U.S. Cities With the Highest Rates of HIV Infection

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    http://www.hivplusmag.com/just-diagnosed/2014/09/22/25-us-cities-highest-rates-hiv-infection

    LA is trending down. SF is way down. Boston and Massachusetts in general is way down by 27%. Florida and Louisiana are way UP....



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    May 27, 2015 2:16 PM GMT
    timmm55 said(Or WTF is wrong with Florida?)
    There's just so many hot guys there that it's hard to keep your dick in your pants. icon_cool.gif
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    May 28, 2015 3:28 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    StephenOABC said
    Hyperplasia of Prostate in California

    Hyperplasia: the enlargement of an organ or tissue caused by an increase in the reproduction rate of its cells, often as an initial stage in the development of cancer.

    Can there be too much stimulation of the prostate that causes this or is it something else?

    Benign Prostate Hyperplasia (BPH) begins affecting men over 50. Benign means it isn't an infectious or cancerous process; hyperplasia means excess cell growth as you state; and prostate means the organ affected.

    While classified as benign it nevertheless can cause difficulties in men. The principle one is urinary tract blockage. This prevents full emptying of the bladder, resulting in waking for multiple bathroom trips at night, and urgency, when a man must find a restroom immediately or wet himself. Another effect can be dribbling afterwards.

    Solutions can include medications (the most known in the US being Flomax), and surgery to open the passage.

    I don't know why one part of the US would see more incidents of BPH other than due to age demographics. My understanding is that it's a normal aging process, although some men, perhaps due to genetics, are more prone to it than others. Sorta like how some older men get enlarged noses & ears for no apparent reason.

    But I was not aware prostate enlargement could kill a man, benign or otherwise. This is puzzling to me. Maybe the key phrase is "Most Distinctive Causes of Death" and what that means. Perhaps not the same as "leading" or "chief", rather a meaning in a medical sense, as opposed to a simple statistical one we may be assuming.


    My question is about the risks of over prostate stimulation vs. not enough prostate stimulation.