Oh yikes, Trans-gender organization is shooting itself in the foot.

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    May 28, 2015 4:44 PM GMT


    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/transgender-group-wants-sex-dropped-from-b-c-152133430.html?bcmt_s=m#ugccmt-container


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    May 31, 2015 9:37 PM GMT
    There are certain things about this that I agree with. Mainly because when you think about it, sex designation on any kind of ID doesn't serve a purpose. Especially since driver's licenses have a picture of the cardholder, which should be all you need to identify someone.

    And getting sex designation changed is a long, unnecessary and expensive procedure that sometimes you are only allowed to do if you have had bottom surgery (another procedure that is much more costly).
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    Jun 01, 2015 12:49 AM GMT
    go_dreaming saidThere are certain things about this that I agree with. Mainly because when you think about it, sex designation on any kind of ID doesn't serve a purpose. Especially since driver's licenses have a picture of the cardholder, which should be all you need to identify someone.

    And getting sex designation changed is a long, unnecessary and expensive procedure that sometimes you are only allowed to do if you have had bottom surgery (another procedure that is much more costly).


    It depends on the Province. However this isn't about driver's licenses etc it's about birth certificates. Basically you'll just be a baby born with no gender. lol, no thanks.
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    Jun 01, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
    I don't know that dropping identification is an appropriate response but it is a curious aspect which ought to be in public discussion.

    For instance, how are those born intersex identified on birth certificates?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
    Intersex, in humans and other animals, is a variation in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, or genitals that do not allow an individual to be distinctly identified as male or female. Such variation may involve genital ambiguity...

    ...The population of intersex depends on which definition is used. According to the ISNA definition above, 1 percent of live births exhibit some degree of sexual ambiguity...


    So by that definition, there are 70,000,000 people in the world being forced to ID themselves as they might not necessarily be not only into their future, but at the time.

    So I don't know that this is shooting in the foot or shouting out the mouth. I've no idea but if that number is anywhere near correct, this ought to be in public awareness, even if it turns out there is no good solution to certification. Public awareness alone could help ease their burden.
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    Jun 01, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
    Well the thinking behind that is to avoid forcing gender roles on someone who knows from a young age that they are not the gender they were assigned at birth. Since people are usually aware of their gender identity from a very young age, they would gravitate towards whichever things they feel are more appropriate for themselves.

    I think it's not a bad idea, but not one that society at large is ready for. I also don't think it's the same thing as raising a "genderless" child. After all, how different do you treat a 2 year-old girl from a 2 year-old boy? It's only once they start getting older that they're treated differently, and it's usually around that time that young trans children tend to have problems.

    But of course there would still be problems that persist with raising a child without a definitive gender. You would have to give them a gender neutral name. When you introduce them to other people, it wouldn't be very easy to explain how do identify them. Which is why I believe that the world just isn't there yet.