Early therapy conveys a double benefit

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    May 28, 2015 11:22 PM GMT
    Findings were consistent across sites and the benefits of early ART were similar for people from low-, middle- and high-income countries.

    “We now have clear-cut proof that it is of significantly greater health benefit to an HIV-infected person to start antiretroviral therapy sooner rather than later,” said Anthony S. Fauci, Director of the US National Insititute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID).

    He added: “Moreover, early therapy conveys a double benefit, not only improving the health of individuals but at the same time, by lowering their viral load, reducing the risk they will transmit HIV to others. These findings have global implications for the treatment of HIV.


    http://www.aidsmap.com/START-trial-finds-that-early-treatment-improves-outcomes-for-people-with-HIV/page/2972157/


    Nothing new to me, but Art Deco still can't fathom it.
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    May 30, 2015 12:14 AM GMT
    timmm55 saidFindings were consistent across sites and the benefits of early ART were similar for people from low-, middle- and high-income countries.

    “We now have clear-cut proof that it is of significantly greater health benefit to an HIV-infected person to start antiretroviral therapy sooner rather than later,” said Anthony S. Fauci, Director of the US National Insititute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID).

    He added: “Moreover, early therapy conveys a double benefit, not only improving the health of individuals but at the same time, by lowering their viral load, reducing the risk they will transmit HIV to others. These findings have global implications for the treatment of HIV.


    http://www.aidsmap.com/START-trial-finds-that-early-treatment-improves-outcomes-for-people-with-HIV/page/2972157/


    Nothing new to me, but Art Deco still can't fathom it.



    Well I can see the World World II generation being into self sacrifice but the me generation in me can't condone young guys sacrificing their liver/ kidneys for the sexual gratification of Poz guys. The dubious triple benefit would be the reduced life span of prep gay men which would further reduce transmission rates.
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    May 30, 2015 3:24 PM GMT
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    timmm55 saidFindings were consistent across sites and the benefits of early ART were similar for people from low-, middle- and high-income countries.

    “We now have clear-cut proof that it is of significantly greater health benefit to an HIV-infected person to start antiretroviral therapy sooner rather than later,” said Anthony S. Fauci, Director of the US National Insititute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID).

    He added: “Moreover, early therapy conveys a double benefit, not only improving the health of individuals but at the same time, by lowering their viral load, reducing the risk they will transmit HIV to others. These findings have global implications for the treatment of HIV.


    http://www.aidsmap.com/START-trial-finds-that-early-treatment-improves-outcomes-for-people-with-HIV/page/2972157/


    Nothing new to me, but Art Deco still can't fathom it.



    Well I can see the World World II generation being into self sacrifice but the me generation in me can't condone young guys sacrificing their liver/ kidneys for the sexual gratification of Poz guys. The dubious triple benefit would be the reduced life span of prep gay men which would further reduce transmission rates.


    The article doesn't even concern PrEP.

    It isn't "for the sexual gratification of Poz guys". The POZ guys are doing it for you. So YOU can stay negative. I've been a guinea pig for modern medicine for 20 years.

    The safe drugs you get today are in part because of people like me.

    Furthermore "reduced life span of prep gay men which would further reduce transmission rates" ....WHAT reduced life span? If the life span of an HIV POZ person is normal on ART therapy, why would a Negative person's life span be reduced if on PrEP? (Even if there was drug treatment
    interaction, PrEP can be stopped.)
    Also if a Neg person on PrEP, if dead, wouldn't reduce HIV transmission rates. It would leave people not on PrEP, and the transmission rates would be higher.
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    May 30, 2015 3:26 PM GMT
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    timmm55 said


    Nothing new to me, but Art Deco still can't fathom it.


    I kinda wondered why you posted this when it's pretty much been done before. But I see your point. Some people need to see this information repeatedly before it will sink it.


    See Alpha 13's comment. If a sucker is born every minute, an idiot is every second.
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    May 30, 2015 8:57 PM GMT
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    Alpha13 said
    timmm55 saidFindings were consistent across sites and the benefits of early ART were similar for people from low-, middle- and high-income countries.

    “We now have clear-cut proof that it is of significantly greater health benefit to an HIV-infected person to start antiretroviral therapy sooner rather than later,” said Anthony S. Fauci, Director of the US National Insititute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID).

    He added: “Moreover, early therapy conveys a double benefit, not only improving the health of individuals but at the same time, by lowering their viral load, reducing the risk they will transmit HIV to others. These findings have global implications for the treatment of HIV.


    http://www.aidsmap.com/START-trial-finds-that-early-treatment-improves-outcomes-for-people-with-HIV/page/2972157/


    Nothing new to me, but Art Deco still can't fathom it.



    Well I can see the World World II generation being into self sacrifice but the me generation in me can't condone young guys sacrificing their liver/ kidneys for the sexual gratification of Poz guys. The dubious triple benefit would be the reduced life span of prep gay men which would further reduce transmission rates.


    The article doesn't even concern PrEP.

    It isn't "for the sexual gratification of Poz guys". The POZ guys are doing it for you. So YOU can stay negative. I've been a guinea pig for modern medicine for 20 years.

    The safe drugs you get today are in part because of people like me.

    Furthermore "reduced life span of prep gay men which would further reduce transmission rates" ....WHAT reduced life span? If the life span of an HIV POZ person is normal on ART therapy, why would a Negative person's life span be reduced if on PrEP? (Even if there was drug treatment
    interaction, PrEP can be stopped.)
    Also if a Neg person on PrEP, if dead, wouldn't reduce HIV transmission rates. It would leave people not on PrEP, and the transmission rates would be higher.




    Since Gilead is behind Prep I only believe what I know from
    Personal experience. All my friends are dead. Two of the most recent wished they never had started but granted it did extend their lives 15 years. And they did not die from Aids just overall organ failure. But for young healthy guys to sacrifice themselves is something I can't support . Every young guy that has hit on me recently wants BB sex and they proudly boast that they are on prep. But go to the Truvada website and unlike Philip Morris they plainly state that this drug is going to kill you. Gilead is giving these young guys a huge discount on Truveda to sacrifice themselves. I can't support this. And of course it's politically incorrect to go against the gay party line on this. Poz guys must have access to BB sex with neg young guys as frequently as possible.
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    May 30, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said "Since Gilead is behind Prep I only believe what I know from
    Personal experience
    . All my friends are dead. Two of the most recent wished they never had started but granted it did extend their lives 15 years. And they did not die from Aids just overall organ failure. But for young healthy guys to sacrifice themselves is something I can't support . Every young guy that has hit on me recently wants BB sex and they proudly boast that they are on prep. But go to the Truvada website and unlike Philip Morris they plainly state that this drug is going to kill you. Gilead is giving these young guys a huge discount on Truveda to sacrifice themselves. I can't support this. And of course it's politically incorrect to go against the gay party line on this. Poz guys must have access to BB sex with neg young guys as frequently as possible."

    "I only believe what I know from Personal experience."
    Anecdotal evidence is not science. It may be true for you in a small area. Personal experience told people the earth was flat.

    All of your friends are dead....from what? I' assuming they were not on PrEP (not 15 years) and it was from HIV/AIDS. To say they "wished they never had started" ART therapy is a gross exaggeration if you apply it to the HIV population at large.

    If you read the article you'd of understood the benefits of starting ART early....before t-cells go under 200. There are LESS problems the earlier you start. I started at just under 400 and ALL of my blood work is totally normal. 1032 T-cells now, cholesterol, liver functions, etc. All NORMAL. And I've been on HIV meds since 1985.

    You seem to be in the 'Truvada users are whores' faction. Any drug can kill you. Look at the warnings for something as seemingly innocuous as aspirin: http://www.drugs.com/cdi/aspirin.html
    It CAN kill you.

    Then you say: "And of course it's politically incorrect to go against the gay party line on this. Poz guys must have access to BB sex with neg young guys as frequently as possible."

    That's just insulting!

    It's hardly politically correct. (Most people on here don't even know what TasP is, much less have a consensus.) Nor true. (How do we Poz guys mandate our share of neg young guys?) And stigmatizing in it's own right. If anything I've seen Negative guys seek out undetectable men because they are aware of the science.