Indictment of Ex-House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert Stuns GOP

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    May 29, 2015 2:42 AM GMT
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    NYT: J. Dennis Hastert, a Republican, 73, the longest-serving former speaker of the House of Representatives, has been charged with lying to the F.B.I. and making cash withdrawals from banks in a way that was designed to hide that he was paying $3.5 million to a male or a female for his “misconduct” from years ago, a federal indictment released on Thursday said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/us/ex-house-speaker-j-dennis-hastert-indicted-on-federal-charges.html?_r=0
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    May 29, 2015 8:19 PM GMT
    NYT: J. Dennis Hastert, the former Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, was paying a man to not say publicly that Mr. Hastert had sexually abused him decades ago, according to two people briefed on the evidence uncovered in an F.B.I. investigation into the payments.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/us/politics/hastert-indictment.html?
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    May 29, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
    Why should this surprise anyone, with the continuous parade of closeted, bigoted, hypocritical, republican, religious people getting caught in sex scandal after sex scandal, maliciously pointing their self righteous dirty fingers at our community while their men suck cock or take it up the ass in church basement bathrooms, the nearest rest area or park. They seem to favor the extortion principle.

    I truly believe they hate us because we live our lives out in the open while they continue to slither in shadow, self hating, wishing they too could be free from their religious bonds and self appointed morality keepers. icon_rolleyes.gif

    The closet is much bigger for these people than we could ever imagined. Lets not feel sorry for them

  • KissTheSky

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    May 29, 2015 9:15 PM GMT
    Another day, another Republican child molester.
    Can you believe this low life was third in the line for the Presidency?

    If he sexually abused an adolescent boy, he should be prosecuted... the statute of limitations should be done away with, because predators like Hastert, Duggar, etc, are too good at covering their tracks for a few years and then they get off scott free. Too bad for the lives they've ruined.
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    May 29, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
    Parents, ask your wrestling or football coach whether he is a "good Christian", goes to church, and believes in "traditional family values". If the answer is yes, run. Chances are, he will Duggar your son, Sandusky or Hastert style.
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    May 29, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
    Uh-oh!

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    May 30, 2015 12:56 AM GMT
    When Hastert was Speaker, there was a lot of talk around Washington that he was secretly gay and had a thing for young boys. I didn't believe it at the time, but apparently it's true.
    His wife was a very masculine high school gym teacher who mysteriously didn't live with Hastert... even when she came to visit Hastert in DC, she stayed in a hotel. Hastert lived in a small apt. with a young man.
    It all makes sense now.
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    KissTheSky saidAnother day, another Republican child molester.
    Can you believe this low life was third in the line for the Presidency?

    If he sexually abused an adolescent boy, he should be prosecuted... the statute of limitations should be done away with, because predators like Hastert, Duggar, etc, are too good at covering their tracks for a few years and then they get off scott free. Too bad for the lives they've ruined.

    +1
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    May 30, 2015 1:09 AM GMT
    Hastert must have done something serious bad that he paid up to $3,500,000 in several low level payments designed to avoid detection. guess the detection thingy didnt work well for him.

    wonder what he did?

    anyway another republican up in flames.
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    May 30, 2015 3:57 AM GMT
    A Stunning Revelation for Seemingly Solid GOP Leader

    NYT: J. Dennis Hastert was “the coach,” a colleague said. “He was a solid guy. He never raised his voice.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/us/politics/dennis-hastert-a-once-calming-leader-took-a-stunning-turn.html?ref=politics
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    May 30, 2015 4:45 AM GMT
    ELNathB saidWhy should this surprise anyone, with the continuous parade of closeted, bigoted, hypocritical, republican, religious people getting caught in sex scandal after sex scandal, maliciously pointing their self righteous dirty fingers at our community while their men suck cock or take it up the ass in church basement bathrooms, the nearest rest area or park. They seem to favor the extortion principle.

    I truly believe they hate us because we live our lives out in the open while they continue to slither in shadow, self hating, wishing they too could be free from their religious bonds and self appointed morality keepers. icon_rolleyes.gif

    The closet is much bigger for these people than we could ever imagined. Lets not feel sorry for them



    Hear, hear!!! Well said!!!
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    May 30, 2015 3:42 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidWhen Hastert was Speaker, there was a lot of talk around Washington that he was secretly gay and had a thing for young boys. I didn't believe it at the time, but apparently it's true.
    His wife was a very masculine high school gym teacher who mysteriously didn't live with Hastert... even when she came to visit Hastert in DC, she stayed in a hotel. Hastert lived in a small apt. with a young man.
    It all makes sense now.


    I had no idea he lived with a young man. It must have been common knowledge then in DC that he was gay and liked young men. Thus, the comments of Boehner and other Repubs about being stunned are complete BS.

    When this story first broke, they were suggesting the issue was political hush money, but I didn't buy it. No one who knew stuff about his political past could bribe him since they would surely be as guilty as he in order to have knowledge of any political wrongdoing. So I knew it was sexual and since he's retired, it had to be criminal as well. Hence, it had to be sexual abuse of a minor and, intuitively, I felt it was of a boy.

    Hastert was the rep for the district I went to College in in Illinois. He was a typical Republican on all the issues (gay marriage wasn't even an issue then, in the 1980s!) But he always seemed like a cipher to me.

    I agree with the guy who said there should be no statute of limitation on sexual abuse, but is anyone else troubled by the fact that the FBI is indicting him not for sexual abuse (which isn't their jurisdiction) but for lying about what he was doing with his bank withdrawals? I'm an American and, frankly, I don't think it's any of the FBI's damned business what I'm doing with my money unless they have direct evidence I'm using it for illegal purposes. It would seem this investigation was triggered simply by the fact that he was withdrawing sums greater than 10,000 dollars out of his account. This isn't about defending Hastert, it's about another example of federal overreach. In the last 15 years, they have increasingly conducted investigations and indicted people for stuff that doesn't even sound illegal. They have also harassed whistleblowers who revealed the tapping of millions of Americans' phones. They have run guns for drugs in the Southwest. For the first time in my life, I'm more afraid of the government than those crazy state militias--where does the surveillance, bogus indictment and harassment end.

    A few fact checks:

    Hastert was second, not third in line to be President. The President isn't in the line to be President--he's already President. It's first the VP, then the Speaker.

    Hastert was not the longest serving Speaker; he was only the longest serving Republican Speaker. Several democrats hold the post longer than he did. Sam Rayburn held it for 17 years and Tip O'Neill was Speaker for ten years. Hastert only had it for 8 years--besides Tom DeLay really ran congress during Hastert's whole reign.
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    May 30, 2015 4:39 PM GMT
    Funny how quiet our GOP contingent here is on this issue.
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    May 30, 2015 4:47 PM GMT
    Whipmagic said
    Funny how quiet our GOP contingent here is on this issue.

    Actually, Komrad southbeach criticized HndsmKansan for his choice of header topic in another forum regarding this scandal. So I guess that's a kind of response.
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    May 30, 2015 4:48 PM GMT
    Whipmagic saidFunny how quiet our GOP contingent here is on this issue.


    Untrue.
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    May 30, 2015 4:50 PM GMT
    ButT I won't be commenting much more. Rolling Stones concert tonight at OSU stadium so lots of shit to do before 8:00PM
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    May 30, 2015 4:53 PM GMT
    Whipmagic saidParents, ask your wrestling or football coach whether he is a "good Christian", goes to church, and believes in "traditional family values". If the answer is yes, run. Chances are, he will Duggar your son, Sandusky or Hastert style.

    Was that your experience? It wasn't mine at all. You're using the same kind of logic bigots use when they condemn a whole race, gender, orientation, etc. on the actions of a few.
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    May 30, 2015 6:02 PM GMT
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    Whipmagic saidParents, ask your wrestling or football coach whether he is a "good Christian", goes to church, and believes in "traditional family values". If the answer is yes, run. Chances are, he will Duggar your son, Sandusky or Hastert style.

    Was that your experience? It wasn't mine at all. You're using the same kind of logic bigots use when they condemn a whole race, gender, orientation, etc. on the actions of a few.


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    May 30, 2015 10:15 PM GMT
    ELNathB saidWhy should this surprise anyone, with the continuous parade of closeted, bigoted, hypocritical, republican, religious people getting caught in sex scandal after sex scandal, maliciously pointing their self righteous dirty fingers at our community while their men suck cock or take it up the ass in church basement bathrooms, the nearest rest area or park. They seem to favor the extortion principle.

    I truly believe they hate us because we live our lives out in the open while they continue to slither in shadow, self hating, wishing they too could be free from their religious bonds and self appointed morality keepers. icon_rolleyes.gif

    The closet is much bigger for these people than we could ever imagined. Lets not feel sorry for them




    This ! ^^^^
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    May 30, 2015 10:19 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidButT I won't be commenting much more. Rolling Stones concert tonight at OSU stadium so lots of shit to do before 8:00PM

    We've got a concert tonight, too. I made another thread about it.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4059072
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    May 30, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
    Indictment of Ex-House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert Stuns GOP

    Stuns? This is becoming an everyday occurrence. icon_razz.gif
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    May 30, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
    ^ You are right. I wonder it is because the GOP feels that they are a party of God yet there is so much evil.
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    May 30, 2015 11:44 PM GMT
    Thanks for exposing the double standard in the US Justice System whereby conservatives are prosecuted and entitled elitist liberals get away scott free.

    A few examples include:

    Bill Clinton who has yet to be prosecuted for flying the "Lolita Express" and spending time at donor and Liberal Democrat Jeffrey Epstein's underage "Orgy Island".

    Bill Clinton's protege and Liberal Democrat ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner who wasn't prosecuted for sending lewd photos of himself to women, including an underage girl.

    Former Governor and Liberal Democrat of NY Elliot Spitzer who had to resign and wasn't prosecuted after a multitude of rendezvous with in and out of state hookers was uncovered.

    Former Married Governor and Liberal Democrat of NJ Jim McGreevey who hired his illicit boyfriend Golan Cipel to a government job he wasn't qualified for so they could fuck across the Governor's desk all day.

    Former Congressman and Liberal Democrat of MA Barney Frank whose paid as a hooker "boyfriend" ran a prostitution ring out of Barney's DC apartment and attended a bill signing at the Whitehouse. Barney also had 33 parking violations fixed for his prostitute boyfriend.




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    May 31, 2015 12:18 AM GMT
    Of course, there is no evidence, only conjecture (see above), that conservatives are prosecuted any more rigorously than liberals, but given conservatives' propensity for taking the moral high ground, they probably deserve to be treated more harshly.
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    May 31, 2015 12:27 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidOf course, there is no evidence, only conjecture (see above), that conservatives are prosecuted any more rigorously than liberals, but given conservatives' propensity for taking the moral high ground, they probably deserve to be treated more harshly.


    Thanks. Your comments prove that liberalism = unequal treatment under the law.