Should we feel sorry for gay Republicans who complain that they can't get married in red states?

  • KissTheSky

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    Jun 02, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
    This story is about a gay Republican in Tennessee who wants to air a pro-marriage equality commercial, but it was rejected by the tv station.

    To me, a bigger question is the dubious ethical position of the gay man's poltics -- when he votes for Republican politicians who promise to take away his rights, is he then in any position to object when his rights are taken away? Many people would say he got what he voted for.

    I'm all for his activism, but it seems like he should start at the ballot box, by voting out of office the Republicans who are fighting against his equality.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/30/jesse-ehrenfeld-right-to-marry_n_7476514.html
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    Jun 02, 2015 1:09 AM GMT
    No. You reap what you sow.
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    Jun 02, 2015 2:08 AM GMT
    How many gay men received a congratulatory phone call from their Democratic family members upon finally gaining civil rights in their home state?

    I've recently admonished my brother for not calling me. How could you, I said to him, knowing that I was widowed twice, never able to marry. How could you?

    Who among us, even in the most liberal of families, hasn't experienced at least a little homophobia, even if subtle, even if inadvertent, even if thoughtless?

    Do we throw our families away?
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    Jun 02, 2015 5:12 PM GMT
    Thats a tough question. I think that Gay republicans want to change their party from the inside. They want the conservative direction, but with the added "And gays are ok too!" type understanding. Its, in a way, an honorable feat to accomplish on their part. Buts its def an uphill battle.


    My thoughts are...if you are a gay Republican, and you know that the person you are voting for is going to fight against your rights (as a gay person), then you better be actively trying to sway public opinion on gay initiatives. Basically, you better be doing some work for that change you hope to see in your party. Cuz if no work is done, then you have almost no right to complain. Why? Because you chose conservative spending, or conservative foreign policy, or conservative whatever in place of your own civil liberties for that moment at the ballot box.

    So to answer your question, YES I do believe we can feel sorry for some of the gay republicans that can't get married in red states.

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    Jun 03, 2015 9:18 PM GMT
    I can't.
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    Jun 03, 2015 9:32 PM GMT
    This time next month, the sole complaint they'll have left is they can't seem to get married becuase they're Gay Republicans. icon_razz.gif
  • bobbobbob

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    Jun 03, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThis story is about a gay Republican in Tennessee who wants to air a pro-marriage equality commercial, but it was rejected by the tv station.

    To me, a bigger question is the dubious ethical position of the gay man's poltics -- when he votes for Republican politicians who promise to take away his rights, is he then in any position to object when his rights are taken away? Many people would say he got what he voted for.

    I'm all for his activism, but it seems like he should start at the ballot box, by voting out of office the Republicans who are fighting against his equality.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/30/jesse-ehrenfeld-right-to-marry_n_7476514.html


    This may come to a surprise to you but some gays think about more than one issue when they go to the ballot box. You don't eat gay food, you don't buy gay gas, you don't pay gay utility bills, you don't get a gay paycheck.

    When you're a single voter you're nothing but a idiot for the politicians to manipulate. In case you haven't figured it out, they tell you any lie that will get single issue voters to support them.

    Some of us vote for what's best for the nation and not just on what will benefit us the most.

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    Jun 03, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    Gay Republicans should have the right to be free of religious indoctrination and they shouldn't have to listen to the government they pay for, preach against them.

    Gay Republicans should have a right to science taught in the public schools they pay for.

    Gay Republicans have female friends and family and those women should have access to birth control and to safe, legal abortions.

    Gay Republicans deserve a clean environment and clean energy too.

    Gay Republicans deserve better than their political party.
  • venue35

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    Jun 04, 2015 10:37 AM GMT
    How many gay conservatives are there?? 200??
  • bobbobbob

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    Jun 04, 2015 10:49 AM GMT
    venue35 saidHow many gay conservatives are there?? 200??


    The best way to think about that is to ask how many don't call themselves progressives or democrats.

    You'd be surprised.
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    Jun 05, 2015 9:39 PM GMT
    bobbobbob saidSome of us vote for what's best for the nation and not just on what will benefit us the most.

    Translation: Bob da Boob has no self-respect.
    And I don't blame him. Who could respect him?
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    Jun 05, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare said
    bobbobbob saidSome of us vote for what's best for the nation and not just on what will benefit us the most.

    Translation: Bob da Boob has no self-respect.
    And I don't blame him. Who could respect him?

    Difficult to respect a sock.
  • venue35

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    Jun 05, 2015 10:27 PM GMT
    He's not a sock he's verified