We Can End the HIV Epidemic, If We Want To

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    Jun 06, 2015 8:11 PM GMT
    The question isn't whether or not we want to keep the public safe from HIV—both men clearly do. Instead, it's about determining a realistic and effective approach to protecting at-risk individuals from one of the most nefarious infections in recent history. Ignoring the science, Weinstein calls PrEP a "party drug," while Acworth, a porn exec, is both better informed and more aligned with national health standards.

    the adult film industry is a front-runner when it comes to sexual health. For ten years, the industry has operated self-regulated testing protocols that have prevented HIV infections on set. It is not a surprise that developments like PrEP are closely watched and quickly added to existing education materials.

    http://www.vice.com/read/has-porn-become-the-better-advocate-for-safer-sex-293
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    Jun 06, 2015 9:14 PM GMT
    In my life time I have seen over and over again that it is not a good idea to put your life into the hands of another person or in this case a drug company.

    It you thinks drugs are the secret to good health then you are a victim of their propaganda machine.
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    Jun 06, 2015 9:44 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidIn my life time I have seen over and over again that it is not a good idea to put your life into the hands of another person or in this case a drug company.

    It you thinks drugs are the secret to good health then you are a victim of their propaganda machine.


    Propaganda or not (NOT) it's why millions of people are alive and well. Conspiracy nitwits and their believers who listen to them cause death.
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    Jun 06, 2015 9:45 PM GMT
    How about smallpox, polio, etc.?

    If you are healthy enough you won't get it?
  • Noeton

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    Jun 06, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
    Who is this Weinstein guy? Sounds like he has a few screws loose.
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    Jun 07, 2015 4:01 AM GMT
    I am as they say, "one of the lucky ones." In 1980 one started to work in my city's largest gay bathhouse, and being off a farm, with a well toned body, and a big white smile, one was very populare, and I did play almost everyday; It was still the era of free love after all. The things one was a witness to and survived; I truly am one of the lucky ones.

    I knew when the time came to give back my gay card , and go back home to the bush, after standing by a community for many years, that so many had abandoned; thanks to the hysteria of the Gay Plague Era; no one wanted the gay cancer, or the stigma that came with it.

    Anyhow one was to end up in a two year sexual relationship. Don failed to disclose his HIV+ status, and also encouraged barebacking. Oh my the sex was so freaking hot too.

    This relationship was over when one moved back to the city, and straight into a relationship that has lasted a half centry, and still going strong. Don is now long dead from AIDS, I'm in my fifties now and still HIV-. I truly am one of the lucky ones.

    The issues of the gay plague era, and Aides is all behind me now; not being cocky, as all those I lost still live within me, and what I survived did indeed effect me.

    I truly with others could feel as I do, no longer living in a world dominated HIV/AIDS.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Jun 07, 2015 4:44 AM GMT
    Hate to be like this but if it isn't HIV it's something else

    The only way to get ride of human disease is get rid of humans
  • Apparition

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    Jun 07, 2015 4:43 PM GMT
    mandatory testing week would be nice though. I think this is a realistic option. Have everyone in the country go in and get tested free of (consumer) charge, for the top 20 or so diseases. Just so everyone knows where they are at and what needs to be done.
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    Jun 08, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
    Apparition saidmandatory testing week would be nice though. I think this is a realistic option. Have everyone in the country go in and get tested free of (consumer) charge, for the top 20 or so diseases. Just so everyone knows where they are at and what needs to be done.


    Except there is an HIV window.


    "How soon after exposure to HIV can tests detect the virus?
    Even among antibody tests, the window period varies. The so-called “first-generation” and “second-generation” HIV antibody tests detect one type of HIV antibody. On average, they can detect antibodies 42-60 days after infection."

    http://www.hivguidelines.org/clinical-education/hiv-qa-fact-sheets/window-period-for-hiv-infection/
    The guy you met last week wouldn't register for 45 days.

    The logistics of getting everyone tested at the same time would make it impossible. There are parents who refuse to get vaccines for their children.
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    Jun 08, 2015 10:48 AM GMT
    I'm sure we could end the epidemic if we really wanted to in the ideal world. However, I believe it's unrealistic. People are ultimately going to do whatever they're going to do. The only thing someone can do in the end is look out for their own safety.
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    Jun 08, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
    tmac2271 saidI'm sure we could end the epidemic if we really wanted to in the ideal world. However, I believe it's unrealistic. People are ultimately going to do whatever they're going to do. The only thing someone can do in the end is look out for their own safety.


    While I agree people are going to do what they are going to do, I'm not that pessimistic.

    " The model, says Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is based on the observation that, "When you follow couples—one who's infected, the other who's not—the probability of infection diminishes when the viral load is very low," as when drugs have been administered. So, the study intends to get infected individuals' viral loads down to levels where they cannot infect their sexual partners#8212;even in the absence of a condom. "The philosophy," Fauci says, "is if you test everybody, and treat everybody who has HIV, you could use treatment as prevention. (TasP)"

    If you factor in PrEP and TasP there is a large community of people who are stopping HIV.

    "Now that early ART of HIV-infected persons has been shown to be very effective at preventing secondary transmission of HIV among individuals, the current goal is to determine the extent to which ART can be used broadly and effectively to reduce the spread of HIV within a population. At least two community randomized trials that use ART as their basis are planned,35 and the results could determine the conclusive benefit of this successful intervention.36"

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/prevention/research/tap/

    It's a community based approach vs condoms which is strictly individual. Condoms have a half life of zero, it's use is once. It's effectiveness can be erased at any time by non-use. While ART and PrEP adherence is very important, there is residual protection even if a dose is missed.