Obesity Virus

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    Jan 27, 2009 6:06 PM GMT
    A new virus has been discovered that causes obesity. I'm not 100% sure on how it works. I know it multiplys fat cells, 30% of overweight people have it. It stays in the lungs and is trasnfered through sneezing and coughing.

    Anyone else have any useful information? I could see this being VERY counterproductive to fitness goals.
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    Jan 27, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    Earliest mention I found (1997): http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA09/obesity497.php

    More recent articles:

    http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/01/health_alert_obesity_virus.php

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20070820/obesity-virus-more-bigger-fat-cells

    http://www.webmd.com/news/20000728/is-there-obesity-bug

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6956543.stm

    Interesting indeed... There's also a wikipedia entry on the virus culprit - Human Adenovirus 36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AD-36. Seems like it induces preadipocytes and stem cells (cell precursors/undifferentiated cells - kinda like baby cells) to become adipose cells (adipoctyes - 'fat cells').

    It's still under research and other scientists are countering the way it's touted as the cause for the epidemic of obesity in developed countries. Frankly, I would not be really worried about this. Judging from the geographical distribution of occurrences of obesity, it still is more common in countries/individuals with easier access to rich food. Also in the articles it hints at the cell differentiation only happening during an AD-36 infection (detectable by testing for AD-36 antibodies in the blood). It may stop as soon as you get rid of the virus.

    And the statistics, it is already present in 30% of obese humans and 11% of nonobese humans. Which means that the remaining 70% of obese humans still became obese through another way.
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    Jan 27, 2009 8:55 PM GMT
    Miasma, I could kick ya... Now we're going to get a bunch of bullshit from chuckystud... the dummy already thinks that if you hang out with people who are overweight that you will become overweight too.
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    Jan 27, 2009 9:00 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidMiasma, I could kick ya... Now we're going to get a bunch of bullshit from chuckystud... the dummy already thinks that if you hang out with people who are overweight that you will become overweight too.


    Does that work in the same way that hanging around gay people will make you gay?
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    Jan 27, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/features/beware-your-friends-can-make-you-fat-1081708.html
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1649321,00.html
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/25/healthscience/fat.php
    http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN2422763920070725
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=3098035n
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    Jan 27, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    Apparently, Google can't find a whole lot on catching "The Gay" from your friends, but I did get links on "Why people think you're gay" and "Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs". Because Google is God, and God doesn't seem to have any information on whether "The Gay" is contagious, I think it's safe to say "The Gay", unlike "The Fat", is not contagious.

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    Jan 27, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
    See? His minions are already chiming in....
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    Jan 27, 2009 9:20 PM GMT
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    And his minion is requesting a valid counter to "fat friends make you fat" in the form of research, articles, or other reading material containing information to the contrary.
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    Jan 27, 2009 9:47 PM GMT
    This story is British tabloid bullshit.
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    Jan 27, 2009 9:52 PM GMT
    Tapper saidThis story is British tabloid bullshit.

    I am with Tapper. This would be better suited for the National Enquirer or Weekly World News.
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    Jan 27, 2009 10:01 PM GMT
    There's the familiar saying "we are who we associate with". It's, of course, common sense that if you have Harley Riders hanging out with Harley riders, gays with gays, tattooed with tattooed, athletes with athletes, and so on, you're more likely, than not, to be like them, than not. That's the nature of humans as a species. Of course, there's always the exception, but, some trends hold true fairly well across a wide range of samples. It's a very basic statistics thing.

    We socialize with those we have commonality with. That's a concept that even grade school children can understand, While someone might call me a dummy, it shouldn't be for a common sense observation backed by sound science. Oops. You're wrong. If you hang with group x, there's a high likelihood you'll have characteristics of group x. Doh! It's a total no-brainer.


    SAHEM62896 saidMiasma, I could kick ya... Now we're going to get a bunch of bullshit from chuckystud... the dummy already thinks that if you hang out with people who are overweight that you will become overweight too.


    I can handle being called a dummy. The cool thing about ignorant folks is that they don't understand that they are ignorant. "Ignorance is bliss, as the saying goes." They can't help it, and, I understand that. SAHEM62896 flatters me with his attention and personal attacks. I know I'm being listened to, and I know I'm making a difference, when he elevates me to his "hate" and name-calling status. I hadn't even been along, and he was lashing out and making personal attacks. Thanks for being a fan!

    Whether or not there's an obesity virus, post, or pre, fat, science, and time will tell. There IS a fat gene, present in roughly 3% of morbidly obese folks.

    Uclers were once thought to be caused by excess stomach acid. Later we found out, through sound science, that wasn't the case. Time will tell on this thing, too.

    It was once thought that resistance training would make one "muscle bound." We know that's not the case.

    For a couple of thousand years, the church cut the heads off of folks who said the world was non-flat. Science evolves. The wonderful thing about science, however, is that it has a basis in factual observation, and reproducibility.

    A some point in time, man will almost certainly have a much fuller comprehension of The Human Machine. It's fascinating stuff. Unfortunately, false belief systems often discourage, obstruct, hinder, and are punitive towards good science and discovery. Nonetheless, science evolves, and our discovery of the world around us goes on.
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    Jan 27, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
    Chucky is still the one!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 27, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
    Having overweight friends only will make you overweight if they force McDonalds down your throat... otherwise they just make you look that much better when you stand next to 'em : )

    And yes, I'm guessing your str8 friends will only become gay after your shove your cock down their throats too : )

    SAHEM62896 saidMiasma, I could kick ya... Now we're going to get a bunch of bullshit from chuckystud... the dummy already thinks that if you hang out with people who are overweight that you will become overweight too.
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    Jan 27, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
    chuckystud said It was once thought that resistance training would make one "muscle bound." We know that's not the case.


    An expensive mistake I learned after buying a Soloflex. Now that's being a dummy icon_neutral.gif

    But yeah, aside from disease and genetics, which may be a cruel twist in life, environment plays a significant role... "we are what we eat" and all of those analogies, short of stereotyping, are true.

    Always an exception to the empirical nature... I'm a skinny ass in a sea of overweight family members (a dolphin swimming next to whales... DOH!) I can't say FAT without being chastised. But they are what they eat, rest assured.
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    Jan 28, 2009 12:34 AM GMT
    justinono saidI can't say FAT without being chastised.


    Political correctness is a sure-fire way to make us all a bunch of blithering pussies.

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    Jan 28, 2009 12:40 AM GMT
    WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT THIS IS!!
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    Jan 28, 2009 12:46 AM GMT
    Love Little Britain! "Pigs In Sppppppppppppppppppppppppace!"
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    Jan 28, 2009 12:50 AM GMT
    italianguy63 saidWHAT A CROCK OF SHIT THIS IS!!


    No, this is a crock of shit:

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