Iran renegotiating nuke deal - big surprise there!

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    Jun 11, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
    Regarding what several of us said a couple months ago regarding Iran renegotiating the nuke deal.

    100% chance this was going to happen. The only thing they understand is force.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/iran-nuclear-transparency-agreement/2015/06/11/id/649974/
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    Jun 11, 2015 3:35 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidThe only thing they understand is force.


    Which is probably how they managed to endure the longest conventional war of the 20th century. Good luck with finding any consensus for a US-led attack on Iran. The American people have lost any appetite they had for full scale military interventions in the Middle East, thanks to Bush's family folly war. Meanwhile, should Iran fail to comply with the agreement, the sanctions (which forced them to the negotiating table in the first place) will stay.
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    Jun 16, 2015 2:37 PM GMT
    Iran (at least the AyaTollahs) didn't just endure that war, they perpetuated it, futilely extending it by years in the hopes of punishing Saddam/Iraq, at a cost of about 1 million lives.

    While it [Iran] had managed to gain the upper hand on the battlefield, particularly after the capture of the Fao peninsula, Iraq's international support was preventing an Iranian victory. In addition, international diplomacy had produced a ceasefire proposal that would eventually form the basis of UN Security Council Resolution 598 that was the basis for the end of hostilities a year later. But Iran refused to accept the resolution and continued to waste life and limb trying to break the deadlock militarily without and underpinning strategy.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=3ASFHGu9S2gC&pg=PA140#v=onepage&q&f=false


    As for "renegotiating" agreements, see:

    The Law of Treaties: Pacta sunt servanda
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4063285
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    Jun 19, 2015 4:55 PM GMT
    pouncer said
    Off the top of my head, I can think of at least three wars that were longer.


    I'm not going to be drawn into one of your inane mega-threads, but it is generally agreed the Iran/Iraq War was the longest conventional war of the 20th century.