Jeb Bush Defends His Shaming of Single Parents

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    Jun 11, 2015 8:11 PM GMT
    NYT: Jeb Bush on Thursday defended a passage in a 1995 book he co-authored calling for the restoration of shame as a way to curb out-of-wedlock births in the United States.

    Single parenthood, he said, “hurts the prospects, limits the possibilities of young people being able to live lives of purpose and meaning.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/11/jeb-bush-defends-book-that-called-for-shaming-single-parents/?
  • tj85016

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    Jun 11, 2015 8:54 PM GMT
    lol says the rich cunt who spent his summers on Walker's Point, Maine

    George Herbert Walker's Point Bush is his daddy, no?

    all these Bush's suck
  • Svnw688

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    Jun 11, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
    Jeb is a fool. The best thing he has going for him is his height, since the taller candidate usually wins ever since Kennedy and debates became televised.
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    Jun 11, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
    Svnw688 saidJeb is a fool. The best thing he has going for him is his height, since the taller candidate usually wins ever since Kennedy and debates became televised.


    please, Jeb is beyond fool, he's a dumb ass like his idiot brother and that moron Romney

    same ole shit, rich father's, idiot children
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    Jun 11, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Svnw688 saidJeb is a fool. The best thing he has going for him is his height, since the taller candidate usually wins ever since Kennedy and debates became televised.

    please, Jeb is beyond fool, he's a dumb ass like his idiot brother and that moron Romney

    same ole shit, rich fathers, idiot children

    +1
  • tj85016

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    Jun 11, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
    although I do think it's a shame that the Black community gives a pass to all the deadbeat dads

    and, yes, they do
  • Svnw688

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    Jun 11, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Svnw688 saidJeb is a fool. The best thing he has going for him is his height, since the taller candidate usually wins ever since Kennedy and debates became televised.


    please, Jeb is beyond fool, he's a dumb ass like his idiot brother and that moron Romney

    same ole shit, rich father's, idiot children


    Actually, I didn't find Romney to be a fool or an idiot. Perhaps worse (at least in terms of eternal salvation),I found Romney to be cruel, evil, and cold-hearted. Romney certainly is intelligent (unlike GWB who could barely speak, and to a lesser extent Jeb who can at least articulate his viewpoint grammatically).

    But yea, I take your overarching point, I think they're all spoiled, rich, brats. Country club attending, silver spoon using, brats.
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    Jun 12, 2015 4:41 PM GMT
    NYT: His past comments on single parents are getting attention, and his explanations haven’t been reassuring.

    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/jeb-bushs-family-values/?ref=opinion
  • Svnw688

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    Jun 12, 2015 4:48 PM GMT
    Republicans in general LOVE to shame anyone who doesn't perfectly fit their white, Christian, male, hetero-normative worldview.

    If you are anything but white, if you aren't Christian, if you are female, and/or if you're not straight, then you don't "fit" into their paradigm. They'll take your vote, but essentially you're relegated to second-class person status. It's like that deplorable argument where bigots now say, well, gay adoption is permissible, but the BEST parents are a mom and a dad.

    Not everyone can, or should, be the same.

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  • tj85016

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    Jun 12, 2015 6:48 PM GMT
    Svnw688 saidRepublicans in general LOVE to shame anyone who doesn't perfectly fit their white, Christian, male, hetero-normative worldview.

    If you are anything but white, if you aren't Christian, if you are female, and/or if you're not straight, then you don't "fit" into their paradigm. They'll take your vote, but essentially you're relegated to second-class person status. It's like that deplorable argument where bigots now say, well, gay adoption is permissible, but the BEST parents are a mom and a dad.

    Not everyone can, or should, be the same.

    Sigh.icon_rolleyes.gif


    that's sort of nonsense, the Republicans only sell an idea that does not exist anymore (if it ever did)

    they cater to "defeated" morons who's kids are gay (no, not all by a long shot), 50-60% of their marriages fail, their 16 year old daughter gets knocked up, their 22 year old son is shooting heroin, and so on - these people can't deal with reality, so they vote for some fake Republican "solution"

    most Republicans don't vote for a smaller government footprint or a less interventionist foreign policy - they vote for false solutions
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    Jun 12, 2015 7:39 PM GMT
    "most Republicans don't vote for a smaller government footprint or a less interventionist foreign policy - they vote for false solutions"


    Too many Republicans vote against anything that appeals to liberals, even if it means voting against their own best interests.
    Marriage equality being a good example.
  • tj85016

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    Jun 12, 2015 7:42 PM GMT
    FitnessWorker said"most Republicans don't vote for a smaller government footprint or a less interventionist foreign policy - they vote for false solutions"


    Too many Republicans vote against anything that appeals to liberals, even if it means voting against their own best interests.
    Marriage equality being a good example.


    really? I don't see to many Republicans voting against Social Security payment increases or to abolish the mortgage interest deduction or Pell grants or GI Bill educational benefits
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    Jun 12, 2015 7:52 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    FitnessWorker said"most Republicans don't vote for a smaller government footprint or a less interventionist foreign policy - they vote for false solutions"


    Too many Republicans vote against anything that appeals to liberals, even if it means voting against their own best interests.
    Marriage equality being a good example.


    really? I don't see to many Republicans voting against Social Security payment increases or to abolish the mortgage interest deduction or Pell grants or GI Bill educational benefits


    Because all that remains is Social Security, mortgage interest deductions, Pell Grants and GI Bill educational benefits. icon_rolleyes.gif You know better than this. smh
  • Destinharbor

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    Jun 12, 2015 8:17 PM GMT
    I think there's two issues here that are being characterized as one. One is the typically Republican moronic "publish your sexual history" law and the other is the shaming conversation. The law is horrible. The shaming aspect is more nuanced than just shaming single mothers. I'm no fan of Jeb, just the opposite, but he's right that a great percentage of those we classify as in poverty are single mothers. Young girls getting pregnant before they have the education and means to support themselves and the child (children). If a woman wants to have a child and can care for it properly, including financially, no problem. But I do think as a society, we should put a negative stigma on kids having kids and then not finishing school and becoming a permanent underclass. It ruins the lives of the girls and most likely the children as well. And then you have a cycle of uneducated poor people that is hard for society to break without massive intrusion into the private lives of its most vulnerable people.
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    Jun 12, 2015 8:34 PM GMT
    consider how phucked up Heb Bush's statement is.
    just how as a nation can we publicly shame these citizens into making obvious good life choices.

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    Jun 15, 2015 4:44 PM GMT
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    NYT: Bush defended his shaming of single parents while on a European tour. That same Pew report reported that 17 European countries have higher birthrates to unmarried women than does the United States.

    And according to a 2013 Unicef report, “Child Well-Being in Rich Countries,” all those countries except Latvia (Bulgaria was not included) had higher ratings of overall children’s material well-being. In addition to material well-being, almost all of them outranked the United States in children’s health and safety, education, behaviors and risks, and housing and environment.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/15/opinion/charles-blow-jeb-bush-and-single-mothers.html?ref=opinion
  • coolarmydude

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    Jun 26, 2015 1:46 AM GMT
    Let's see how long it takes Jeb Bush to shame Bristol Palin for her out-of-wedlock pregnancy...

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/06/25/bristol-palin-says-she-pregnant-again/29293701/