Way to go Obama and Biden, plus some members of congress!!!! You really screwed the pooch this time

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    Jun 14, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
    And I couldn't be happier. Joe Biden can buy a 67 Cobra to go with his 67 Vette.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/11/congress-low-volume-turn-key-replica-bill/

    This makes sense.
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    Jun 14, 2015 9:17 PM GMT
    Awesome! That'll create quite a few jobs.
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    Jun 14, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidAwesome! That'll create quite a few jobs.


    And make a bunch of old guys happen and Joe Biden will probably be one of them.

    He needs something to make him smile after all he's been through.
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    Jun 15, 2015 12:00 AM GMT
    And not only will this provide for some jobs, these are VERY highly skilled jobs to do this kind of fabrication.... the kind that are close to being a lost art in this country.
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    Jun 15, 2015 1:05 AM GMT
    Has this bill passed yet? Any idea if it will? I can see the benefits. At the same time, I hope there are provisions to prevent the majors from setting up low-volume captive companies to exploit any loophole in the bill.
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    Jun 15, 2015 1:24 AM GMT
    How is it they " really screwed the pooch this time?"

    Ir's like SB's title about Hillary being "complicit" in the Monica Affair.
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    Jun 15, 2015 1:40 AM GMT
    timmm55 saidHow is it they " really screwed the pooch this time?"

    Ir's like SB's title about Hillary being "complicit" in the Monica Affair.


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    Jun 15, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
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    timmm55 saidHow is it they " really screwed the pooch this time?"

    Ir's like SB's title about Hillary being "complicit" in the Monica Affair.


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    Jun 15, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidHas this bill passed yet? Any idea if it will? I can see the benefits. At the same time, I hope there are provisions to prevent the majors from setting up low-volume captive companies to exploit any loophole in the bill.


    No, I don't think it's passed yet, but sure sounds like it will. Backed by both parties, which is a little unusual all on its own.

    We've been trying for something like this for about 30 years. SEMI is pretty active lobbyists and Leno will be pushing real hard for it.

    "I hope there are provisions to prevent the majors from setting up low-volume captive companies to exploit any loophole in the bill"

    Trade dress is still a copyright so there will have to be some involvement from the big ones.

    And the already certified drive trains will still come from the majors. Still though, all of them do crate such as a LS3 or a LS7. Those are already available. Mopar has a crate Hemi and Ford has all of them too including a crate 427
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    Jun 15, 2015 1:44 AM GMT
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    timmm55 saidHow is it they " really screwed the pooch this time?"

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    Jun 15, 2015 2:13 AM GMT
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    timmm55 saidHow is it they " really screwed the pooch this time?"

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    Jun 15, 2015 2:28 AM GMT
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    timmm55 saidHow is it they " really screwed the pooch this time?"

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    And the already certified drive trains will still come from the majors. Still though, all of them do crate such as a LS3 or a LS7. Those are already available. Mopar has a crate Hemi and Ford has all of them too including a crate 427

    Do you think this law would apply to a major when they farm-out cars for custom work? Like Cadillac does for it's limousines?

    After halting production of the in-house 75-Series years ago, against the growing demand for the rather gauche stretch limos, they now use third-party conversion companies themselves. Would that fit the criteria of this bill?

    "H.R. 2675 recognizes the unique circumstances associated with limited production replica vehicles, which are primarily used in exhibitions, parades and occasional transportation."

    We must see how all the inevitable amendments work out. With some well-greased lobbying, and lax regulatory enforcement, I wouldn't be surprised if the majors get around any obstacles to their dominating this potential market.
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    Jun 15, 2015 7:33 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    And the already certified drive trains will still come from the majors. Still though, all of them do crate such as a LS3 or a LS7. Those are already available. Mopar has a crate Hemi and Ford has all of them too including a crate 427

    Do you think this law would apply to a major when they farm-out cars for custom work? Like Cadillac does for it's limousines?

    After halting production of the in-house 75-Series years ago, against the growing demand for the rather gauche stretch limos, they now use third-party conversion companies themselves. Would that fit the criteria of this bill?

    "H.R. 2675 recognizes the unique circumstances associated with limited production replica vehicles, which are primarily used in exhibitions, parades and occasional transportation."

    We must see how all the inevitable amendments work out. With some well-greased lobbying, and lax regulatory enforcement, I wouldn't be surprised if the majors get around any obstacles to their dominating this potential market.


    I think the best example of this to date would be (as in the pic) the proliferation of kit Cobras from Factory Five and many many others will now be available as finished cars.

    The big difference from the past will be that these need to be emission compliant. That's pretty easy to do versus finding an original Ford FE side oiler 427.

    These can't and won't sound like a 427 cobra because you just can't have that kind of overlap and meet emissions without melting the converter. A real one is a beast.



    This is someone I know that came out to Bob's in Toluca Lake every Friday evening who had two real 427s with documented competition history.



    These were beasts and pretty frightening to drive with vigor.

    Obviously, these aren't going to meet contemporary safety standards either.

    So I don't yet how all this is going to work out, but the Cobra for sure will be at the top of the list of complete 'turn key' replicas. Maybe a tri-five Chevy would be another. Maybe a tri-five T-Bird. A replica 64 GTO could be another. So I don't know where this is going to go yet.
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    Jun 15, 2015 7:42 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidAnd not only will this provide for some jobs, these are VERY highly skilled jobs to do this kind of fabrication.... the kind that are close to being a lost art in this country.
    In other words, the highly skilled fabricators who makes parts for the planes I fly (very old planes) may find other jobs. Damnit, that sucks. Some of them are very attractive, and I always enjoy the eye candy. icon_sad.gif
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    Jun 15, 2015 7:54 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidAnd not only will this provide for some jobs, these are VERY highly skilled jobs to do this kind of fabrication.... the kind that are close to being a lost art in this country.
    In other words, the highly skilled fabricators who makes parts for the planes I fly (very old planes) may find other jobs. Damnit, that sucks. Some of them are very attractive, and I always enjoy the eye candy. icon_sad.gif


    I think there will be room for all of it. It's a bunch of the same folks who are also into vintage aircraft, if you've ever been into to some of the hangers at Santa Monica Airport. Which is probably 60 - 90 seconds from my house out there.