Spiralling anabolic steroid use leaves UK facing health timebomb, experts warn

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    Jun 19, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
    Image-obsessed young males use drug to build muscle but growing health toll includes HIV infection rate equal to that of heroin users

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/19/anabolic-steroid-use-leaves-britain-facing-health-timebomb
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    Jun 19, 2015 11:01 PM GMT
    I used to think that one good thing that came out of body fascism among gays was that it provided us with healthier lifestyle. I guess I was wrong. It has created another set of problems.
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    Jun 19, 2015 11:15 PM GMT
    This is terrible. Another gay generation afflicted with health issues.
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    Jun 20, 2015 3:21 AM GMT
    Well duh, a good body is always more important than good health.

    #sarcasm
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    Jun 20, 2015 5:57 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidWell duh, a good body is always more important than good health.

    #sarcasm

    yes, what matter most in life is six pack.
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    Jun 20, 2015 9:39 AM GMT
    __morphic__ saidI used to think that one good thing that came out of body fascism among gays was that it provided us with healthier lifestyle. I guess I was wrong. It has created another set of problems.


    I don't think this is necessarily a gay (or gay-derived) problem. The article appears to be talking predominantly about image-conscious straight young men. Straight people are perfectly capable of creating 'body fascism' themselves, without any help from gay people.
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    Jun 20, 2015 11:39 AM GMT
    I was looking round my new gym yesterday and I could see at least 5 guys who I am absolutely sure are juicing. They walk around the gym shouting and grunting, acting like they own the place. They are there all hours of the day so they are unlikely to have jobs. There are also at least 2 trainers who are definitely juicing. What a terrible example to set.
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    Jun 20, 2015 5:47 PM GMT
    Steroids are super common everywhere, but especially in big cities or here in the UK. I don't judge others, as I understand the pressure to be big. I'm only 155-160 pounds, and I'm pretty much at my physical limit. But considering I'm 44, I'm pretty happy with it. Still, when I'm at the gym and 50% of the guys are bigger and fitter, I can understand the pressure I guess this is how women feel.
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    mar0302 saidSteroids are super common everywhere, but especially in big cities or here in the UK. I don't judge others, as I understand the pressure to be big. I'm only 155-160 pounds, and I'm pretty much at my physical limit. But considering I'm 44, I'm pretty happy with it. Still, when I'm at the gym and 50% of the guys are bigger and fitter, I can understand the pressure I guess this is how women feel.


    I kind of think of steroids as the male equivalent of breast implants and/or anorexia, in terms of their negative influence. People say they don't lust after guys that take steroids, but if you walk into a bar, club or house party it is clear to see this is a lie (or, that people are terrible at recognising who is on them).
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    Jun 21, 2015 8:29 PM GMT
    If these users are dumb or poor enough to share needles they most likely don't have the resources and discipline to have a diet that's conductive to a lean muscular body anyway. Don't worry: your pristine fitness models sex symbols are not part of these statistics.
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    Jun 22, 2015 6:14 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidWell duh, a good body is always more important than good health.

    #sarcasm

    yes, what matter most in life is six pack.
    And biceps...
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    Jun 23, 2015 12:43 AM GMT
    ^

    Steroids without diet are nothing but water retention and pump. This glamorous and ephemerous bulk is all these poor guys get and this is what they're truly after, not the humble lean mass gains they manage to retain if they do a proper PCT and diet. Diet is more effective than steroids for beginners but the fact that this is not taken seriously goes to show how lack of information does more damage than any drug.
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    Jul 05, 2015 9:37 AM GMT
    When I saw this video at first I thought, 18 months.. he can get that way without steroids.. but damn the definition at the end.. it's unlikely he did it without them.. he's not massive but he's well defined..

    I can empathyse though.. I grew up being told I was too skinny all the time.. it can make you very self conscious.. it wasn't until my 30's when I started to gain a bit of weight.. working out helped but I've mentioned earlier that I'm limited to how big I can get.. I'm only about 150-160 now.. probably never get any bigger.. I'm happy with it though.
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    Jan 02, 2016 3:38 AM GMT
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    mar0302 saidSteroids are super common everywhere, but especially in big cities or here in the UK. I don't judge others, as I understand the pressure to be big. I'm only 155-160 pounds, and I'm pretty much at my physical limit. But considering I'm 44, I'm pretty happy with it. Still, when I'm at the gym and 50% of the guys are bigger and fitter, I can understand the pressure I guess this is how women feel.


    I kind of think of steroids as the male equivalent of breast implants and/or anorexia, in terms of their negative influence. People say they don't lust after guys that take steroids, but if you walk into a bar, club or house party it is clear to see this is a lie (or, that people are terrible at recognising who is on them).


    Ive gotten to the point where I readily admit that I find steroid users attractive
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    Jan 24, 2016 5:54 PM GMT
    The article wasn't about gays specifically though but the use of steroids among young men.

    The combination of youthful impatience and high-pressure to look/perform your best is particularly corrosive in young guys, it looks like. Compound that with maybe poor sex education, poor emotional intelligence (like guys who think girls only pay attention to hot guys and they only go for the girls who put that much emphasis on their own appearance, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy and a shallower culture) and you get many of the factors we're witnessing contribute to this phenomenon.

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    Jan 26, 2016 12:43 AM GMT
    Steroids are the perfect drug for us gays! It gives us easily obtained perfect physiques and explodes our hearts and kills us before we become too old! It's like it was tailor made for us.
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    Feb 03, 2016 12:41 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidSteroids are the perfect drug for us gays! It gives us easily obtained perfect physiques and explodes our hearts and kills us before we become too old! It's like it was tailor made for us.



    .... sexy AIDS....
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    Feb 03, 2016 1:12 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidSteroids are the perfect drug for us gays! It gives us easily obtained perfect physiques and explodes our hearts and kills us before we become too old! It's like it was tailor made for us.


    Didn't work for Sylvester Stallone. Maybe because the curse only applies to the gays? icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 07, 2016 5:19 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidSteroids are the perfect drug for us gays! It gives us easily obtained perfect physiques and explodes our hearts and kills us before we become too old! It's like it was tailor made for us.


    lol.. funny.. I do hope we can get to a point where it's acceptable to be old and gay.. although I would say that the older I get the more attention I seem to get from younger and younger guys.. it's a bit uncomfortable sometimes.
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    Feb 07, 2016 6:40 PM GMT
    What is bad is the lack of information and the complete lack of misinformation created because something is illegal or somehow demonized. Guys who don't know what they are doing are killing themselves unnecessarily. Why someone uses these drugs is irrelevant. If they are going to they should at least treat them as the dangerous substances they are. There is a fine line between efficacy and damage to your health.
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    Mar 05, 2016 1:22 PM GMT
    mar0302 saidSteroids are super common everywhere, but especially in big cities or here in the UK. I don't judge others, as I understand the pressure to be big. I'm only 155-160 pounds, and I'm pretty much at my physical limit. But considering I'm 44, I'm pretty happy with it. Still, when I'm at the gym and 50% of the guys are bigger and fitter, I can understand the pressure I guess this is how women feel.


    Yup I am also close to my physical limit as trainers have told me.

    Sooo many are juicing though and smieking at themselves in the mirror with their backs showin the signs of use. Then they look down on smaller guys and always deny juicing in regular conversation - even when you KNOW as a fact some are!!
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    Mar 08, 2016 8:41 PM GMT
    It may make your muscles bigger but it also shrinks your manhood too which is a fact let alone the affects on the body that you can't see so if you want smaller testicles and penis then go ahead but roid rage isn't an attractive quality.