Dylann Roof’s Racist Manifesto & Right-Wing American politics

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    Jun 24, 2015 1:31 AM GMT
    http://www.salon.com/2015/06/23/dylann_roofs_racist_manifesto_a_funhouse_mirror_reflection_of_right_wing_american_politics/


    " Roof’s manifesto is a kind of distorted, funhouse-mirror reflection of Tea Party-era conservative white America’s core beliefs, and it shares the ahistorical way many conservatives deal with race."


    If you've listened to Rush Limbaugh you know where Roof got his hateful ideas.
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    Jun 24, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
    From all the reporting, it seems there are ties.
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    Jun 24, 2015 1:58 AM GMT
    The comparison is based on the most extreme segments of the right wing.

    Q: What percentage of the world speaks English?
    A: 2004 study published in Science said that 9 percent of the world spoke English as a first language by the middle of the 19th century. The same study found that only 5 percent of the world would speak English as a first language by 2050.

    We can interpolate and say 7 percent of the world's population today speaks English.
    http://www.ask.com/world-view/percentage-world-speaks-english-859e211be5634567

    So how is this relevant? Well, the OP of this thread speaks English. So does Charles Manson. Your native language is a significant component of who you are. So we can say that in a very significant characteristic, the OP and Charles Manson have much in common.

    Q.E.D.
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:07 AM GMT
    ^ The GOP has had a history of fomenting hatred extremism to advance their agenda.

    NYT: On the same day Americans learned that Matthew Shepard, a 5-foot-2, 105-pound gay college student, had been tortured, strung up like an animal and left to die on a fence outside Laramie, Wyo., the Family Research Council was co-hosting a press conference in Washington. It was the latest salvo in a six-month campaign by the religious right, with the tacit, even explicit, approval of Republican leaders, to demonize gay people for political gain in this election year.

    But it's really about stirring up the fear that produces hate.

    The head of the Family Research Council is Gary Bauer, a G.O.P. power broker and putative Presidential candidate, who disingenuously goes on talk shows to say that his organization hates no one and deplores violence.

    Just two days after this near-brush with violence in Fort Worth, Trent Lott was on TV seconding the religious right's condemnation of gay people as sinful and sick.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/14/opinion/journal-the-road-to-laramie.html
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:41 AM GMT
    woodsmen said^ The GOP has had a history of fomenting hatred extremism to advance their agenda.

    NYT: On the same day Americans learned that Matthew Shepard, a 5-foot-2, 105-pound gay college student, had been tortured, strung up like an animal and left to die on a fence outside Laramie, Wyo., the Family Research Council was co-hosting a press conference in Washington. It was the latest salvo in a six-month campaign by the religious right, with the tacit, even explicit, approval of Republican leaders, to demonize gay people for political gain in this election year.

    But it's really about stirring up the fear that produces hate.

    The head of the Family Research Council is Gary Bauer, a G.O.P. power broker and putative Presidential candidate, who disingenuously goes on talk shows to say that his organization hates no one and deplores violence.

    Just two days after this near-brush with violence in Fort Worth, Trent Lott was on TV seconding the religious right's condemnation of gay people as sinful and sick.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/14/opinion/journal-the-road-to-laramie.html

    Your characterization of the GOP by looking at a specific element and cherry picking a NYT article is typical of you.

    Are you able to articulate an original thought? Did you even understand my post, or were you too busy looking for a NY Times article to paste? And while we're at it, why don't you finally come clean and explain why you only pick one source to quote?
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:47 AM GMT
    Your post is laughable. Classic dilution. The First Amendment guarantees my rights to post from a single source or many sources. What you do not like is the contents.
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:52 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidYour post is laughable. Classic dilution. The First Amendment guarantees my rights to post from a single source or many sources. What you do not like is the contents.

    Nonsensical remark. Obvious why you only quote and don't try original thoughts very often. I did not say you did not have the right to post from a single source (unless they assert any copyrights). I asked you why you choose to continually post from a single source. Understand this time?
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:57 AM GMT
    Facts prevail over opinions. My choosing to quote continuously or discontinously has no bearing on the truth of the contents.
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    Jun 24, 2015 4:36 AM GMT
    FitnessWorker saidhttp://www.salon.com/2015/06/23/dylann_roofs_racist_manifesto_a_funhouse_mirror_reflection_of_right_wing_american_politics/
    #4 actually has a tiny grain of truth, albeit different from his viewpoint.

    Slaves always had a guaranteed roof over their heads and [healthy] food in their stomachs as long as they worked hard.

    Now a person working for near minimum wage cannot pay for basic living expenses alone with the current cost of living, and has to rely on govt support to eat even the most unhealthiest and cheapest of food, regardless of how hard (s)he is willing to work...regardless of race or skin pigmentation.
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    Jun 24, 2015 2:24 PM GMT
    The biggest problem with racism in 2015 is all the liberal idiots who keep trying to exaggerate the extent of it for their lame political agenda of divide and conquer by making everything they are trying to sell an issue of white against black.

    I thank god (even though I'm an atheist) that I was raised in the fully integrated military away from my father's Alabama family during the 1950s and 60s. We went back there to visit many times when I was growing up. I'm thankful for that because it gave me regular up close bird's eye views of racism up to this year.. six friggin decades worth of it.

    I've seen it change and disappear in Lowndes County where the Selma to Montgomery marchers camped less than 500 yards from my grandparents house... Montgomery and Birmingham too.

    I was teased by aunts, uncles and grandparents for having N****r friends.
    Cousins wouldn't play with be because I had N*****r friends.
    I remember needing to use the bathroom at a restaurant where an out of order sign was on the door. The waitress told me to go in and use it. The sign was there to keep all the N*****s out.

    Most of you lame wimps yelling about racism have no F*****g idea what racism looks like.

    I was five or six on one visit when my Dad was driving from Montgomery back to Lowndes County on the same road MLK led thousands on the march a few years later. It was late at night. I was asleep in the back seat with one of my brothers; Mom had my youngest brother in the front seat. I woke up hearing her screaming. There was a bloody black man in the road ahead of us waving for help. He was running from the Klan. Dad put him in the trunk and took him into Lowndesboro to black friends of his.

    1968 was a good year. I started classes at Auburn University with my new wife, a daughter of a black USAF major married to a German woman. Three years earlier we'd have been burned alive at Toomers Corner. Sure we ran into racism but not on campus or in town. My dad's family really treated us like hell. We were safe anywhere we went, even Montgomery downtown to shop and eat lunch at Kress's with the famous segregated lunch counters just a couple of years earlier.

    All this noise about racism is just noise made by a bunch of manipulative demagogues to create a huge issue out of one that was on its way to extinction before they started stirring up hate.





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    Jun 24, 2015 2:44 PM GMT
    RACISM was indeed an issue " that was on its way to extinction before they started stirring up hate.

    The South I knew well was on its way to healing and unity.

    But that was before Rush Limbaugh and the new hatemongers took over the radio and other media of rural America.
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    Jun 24, 2015 2:54 PM GMT
    I don't listen to Limbaugh at all because he's just obnoxious as hell but he's not a racist. If you want to try to prove he is, please do.

    Just being ultra conservative doesn't make anyone a racist but it sure makes good fodder for divisive liberal demagogues to try to make people think conservative = racist, doesn't it?

    And if you do a little research you'll find most of Limbaugh's listeners are in large cities - not this imaginary "rural America" you are trying to invent. People in the real rural America are too busy working and living to listen to him.
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
    from Rush's own site:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/25/we_play_barack_the_magic_negro_in_honor_of_ann_coulter_s_new_book

    We Play "Barack the 'Magic Negro'" in Honor of Ann Coulter's New Book

    Rush seems pretty proud of himself.
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    Jun 24, 2015 3:36 PM GMT
    FitnessWorker saidfrom Rush's own site:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/25/we_play_barack_the_magic_negro_in_honor_of_ann_coulter_s_new_book

    We Play "Barack the 'Magic Negro'" in Honor of Ann Coulter's New Book

    Rush seems pretty proud of himself.


    I said he's obnoxious, didn't I? Thanks for proving it.

    ^^^
    I bought and read the book he played the song for. If you had you'd understand why he did it and why it's not all that inappropriate.

    Limbaugh didn't start racially divisive politics and he's not the one making the most out of exploiting it. Last time I heard that song played on the air Herman Cain played it several times and dedicated close to an hour telling why it's not an inaccurate description of Obama.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugged:_Racial_Demagoguery_from_the_Seventies_to_Obama
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    Jun 24, 2015 9:24 PM GMT
    bobbobbob, it's hard to ignore your quick defense of Rush.

    Obnoxious as you may find him, you seem to also find him useful.

    http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/23/limbaugh-ads-tv-shows-where-gay-people-are-happ/204110

    "Limbaugh: Ads, TV Shows Where Gay People Are "Happy And Normal" Are Part Of "All Out Assault" By The Left